Spring between Turkey and Israel. Happy new Year

[xenon54 out]

No, something about the whole Middle East. Which hasn't happened yet. It starts with Russians being in Iraq. Than Arabs dividing into three camps. Than people fighting over gold in Iraq. Than an invasion of ME.

There is gold in Iraq?

 

[farag]

Two points for turkish members:
- israel, Cyprus and greece will not let qatar gas to go to europe, since they have gas themselves.
- turkey-israel relationship will damage turkish efforts to be the leader of ummah

 

[xenon54 out]

- israel, cypress and greece will not let qatar gas to go to europe, since they have gas themselves.

So Cyprus is going to allow Israeli gas but not Qatari because they themselves have gas? Doesnt make sense.

- turkey-israel relationship will damage turkish efforts to ne the leader of ummah

Lol not even Erdogan is believing in Ummah.

 

[farag]

So Cyprus is going to allow Israeli gas but not Qatari because they themselves have gas? Doesnt make sense.


Lol not even Erdogan is believing in Ummah.

- israel-Cyprus-greece relationship is strategic and the main pipeline is through them not through Turkey.

- maybe erdogan does not believed in ummah but some arabs don't know that fact, good for them to know the facts.

 

[Azeri440]

Two points for turkish members:
- israel, Cyprus and greece will not let qatar gas to go to europe, since they have gas themselves.

that is not up to them to decide , Azerbaijan is buying up Greek national gas grid and with TAP the gas link to Europe is open to pretty much anyone.

 

[farag]

that is not up to them to decide , Azerbaijan is buying up Greek national gas grid and with TAP the gas link to Europe is open to pretty much anyone.

Azerbaijan does not have enough of gas for Europe. Turkmenistan has lots of gas but russia and iran will not let Turkmenistan to join the line since the line has to go through caspian sea.
Also, europe has preferences, she rather buys from specific countries liks greece, Cyprus and israel.

 

[xenon54 out]

- israel-Cyprus-greece relationship is strategic and the main pipeline is through them not through Turkey.

You seems to have missed the main topic of this thread, booth Israel and Turkey are looking warm to good relations again and one of the major resons is because transporting gas throught Turkey is way cheaper than laying a huge underwater pipeline which btw would have to be paid by Israel or someone else but surely not by Greece or Cyprus.
About being strategic you really wanna tell me Greece and Cyprus can replace Turkey regarding strategic relationship? Lol Israel just used Greece to piss of Turkey why else would they welcome reconciliation if Greece could take Turkeys role?
Same goes for Egypt btw, have you seen the statement of Eygptian Foreign Minister regarding Turkey-Egypt relations?

- maybe erdogan does not believed in ummah but some arabs don't know that fact, good for them to know the facts.

Most Arabs dont believe in it either and neither do they want Turks as their leader nor do Turks want to be involved in ME clusterfuck.

 

[farag]

You seems to have missed the main topic of this thread, booth Israel and Turkey are looking warm to good relations again and one of the major resons is because transporting gas throught Turkey is way cheaper than laying a huge underwater pipeline which btw would have to be paid by Israel or someone else but surely not by Greece or Cyprus.
About being strategic you really wanna tell me Greece and Cyprus can replace Turkey regarding strategic relationship? Lol Israel just used Greece to piss of Turkey why else would they welcome reconciliation if Greece could take Turkeys role?
Same goes for Egypt btw, have you seen the statement of Eygptian Foreign Minister regarding Turkey-Egypt relations?


Most Arabs dont believe in it either and neither do they want Turks as their leader nor do Turks want to be involved in ME clusterfuck.

Turkey is stronger than greece. Yes, but you missed the point:
Turks are competitors for european countries. True that they can help against Russia and iran but after all they are historically and naturally enemies of Europe.

 

[Azeri440]

Azerbaijan does not have enough of gas for Europe. Turkmenistan has lots of gas but russia and iran will not let Turkmenistan to join the line since the line has to go through caspian sea.
Also, europe has preferences, she rather buys from specific countries liks greece, Cyprus and israel.

apparently you have comprehension problems, its not about Azerbaijan's supplies
Azerbaijan will own the national gas grid of Greece , meaning they have no say in what gas goes through their country and Azerbaijan is building the pipeline to Europe meaning Qatar can easily export its gas to Europe without any problems.

no one cares what Russia or Iran will do, Iran can't do sh*t since it doesn't even affect them and Russia is moving their gas supplies to Asia meaning its actually better for them to have less competition in Asian market.
Not to mention China has billions of investments in Turkmenistan , so no one will touch that infrastructure and Russia doesn't even border Turkmenistan.

The pipeline will be built in the near future mark my words.

 

[farag]

apparently you have comprehension problems, its not about Azerbaijan's supplies
Azerbaijan will own the national gas grid of Greece , meaning they have no say in what gas goes through their country and Azerbaijan is building the pipeline to Europe meaning Qatar can easily export its gas to Europe without any problems.

no one cares what Russia or Iran will do, Iran can't do sh*t since it doesn't even affect them and Russia is moving their gas supplies to Asia meaning its actually better for them to have less competition in Asian market.
Not to mention China has billions of investments in Turkmenistan , so no one will touch that infrastructure and Russia doesn't even border Turkmenistan.

The pipeline will be built in the near future mark my words.

We have different views on this.
Let's leave it to the future:
The day turkmen gas passes under the sea to Europe.

 

[NL_Turk]

We have different views on this.
Let's leave it to the future:
The day turkmen gas passes under the sea to Europe.

What is it you think Russia or Iran could do to stop Turkmenistan?
The pipeline would run through Azeri and Turkmen zones of the Caspian sea, not through Iranian or Russian.
Even Cyprus would need Turkey for a pipeline, otherwise they would have to go for LNG terminals which are expensive or a long pipeline to Greece which would also be a zig zag line to reach Greece's mainland.

 

[Azeri440]

What is it you think Russia or Iran could do to stop Turkmenistan?
The pipeline would run through Azeri and Turkmen zones of the Caspian sea, not through Iranian or Russian.
Even Cyprus would need Turkey for a pipeline, otherwise they would have to go for LNG terminals which are expensive or a long pipeline to Greece which would also be a zig zag line to reach Greece's mainland.

they would also have to buy a stake in National Gas Grid of Greece which Azerbaijan will own.

 

[Bismarck]

Two points for turkish members:
- israel, Cyprus and greece will not let qatar gas to go to europe, since they have gas themselves.
- turkey-israel relationship will damage turkish efforts to be the leader of ummah

If it possible to lead the ummah? If yes, what is needed to rule the ummah?

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Azerbaijan: Israel’s secret Muslim friend - Middle East - Jerusalem Post
How Azerbaijan restored my hope in Israel - Opinion - Jerusalem Post
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[Lure]

If it possible to lead the ummah? If yes, what is needed to rule the ummah?

This is not for Germany my friend. You need to let more Turks in so that maybe Germany becomes a muslim majority country in 2050. Then Germany can start to "negotiate" for becoming the leader of Ummah. But we don't promise anything. We will open some chapters around year 2100.