Spirituality-: Finding the truth

[I.R.A]

With what they learn it? You are borne with 5 senses and a brain.. you learn through them and they are your inherent nature..

No you are born free, free of any interference with your system, you are born in such a state that you keep evolving with passage of time, you are not fed strict rules to follow right from the start of your life (bees, ants, animals, moon, sun etc all of them follow strict instructions), you are awarded freedom of choice compared to rest of creations. This is the reason why Messengers came with guidance to human kind. There is no such thing as human nature because human behavior keeps changing with passage of time, from childhood to maturity you can look at millions of choices you made, if you were following so called human nature it would have been different, you sleep when you want, you wake up when you want the CREATOR hasn't interfered with your freedom of choice.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

And when we talk about actual Sufi , are they religious or Humanists?? You must go through this article about actual Sufi.

They are muslims. END OF STORY

If you aren't muslim then you can't be a Sufi.

 

[I.R.A]

They are muslims. END OF STORY

If you aren't muslim then you can't be a Sufi.

Do these sufis claim that they get in contact with ALLAH through Elham? ............. like do they say that they get their guidance direct from ALLAH?

 

[Antaréss]

I'd rather say so-called spirituality are sets of "beliefs" made by destructive cults to indoctrinate victims.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

I'd rather say so-called spirituality are sets of "beliefs" made by destructive cults to indoctrinate victims.

??? destructive cults? I would hardly call Sufism a destructive "cult"

 

[The SC]

Spirituality is about seeking a meaningful connection with something bigger than yourself, which can result in positive emotions, such as peace, awe, contentment, gratitude, and acceptance.
Thus, emotions and spirituality are distinct but linked, deeply integrated with one another.
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The study of spirituality goes deeply into the heart of every matter and extends far beyond the physical world of matter. Spirituality connects you with the profoundly powerful and divine force that’s present in this universe. Whether you’re looking for worldly success, inner peace, or supreme enlightenment, no knowledge can propel you to achieve your goals and provide as effective a plan for living as does spiritual knowledge.

Knowing how spirituality differs from religion
Although religion and spirituality are sometimes used interchangeably, they really indicate two different aspects of the human experience. You might say that spirituality is the mystical face of religion.

• Spirituality is the wellspring of divinity that pulsates, dances, and flows as the source and essence of every soul. Spirituality relates more to your personal search, to finding greater meaning and purpose in your existence. Some elements of spirituality include the following:

• Looking beyond outer appearances to the deeper significance and soul of everything

• Love and respect for God

• Love and respect for yourself

• Love and respect for everybody

• Religion is most often used to describe an organized group or culture that has generally been sparked by the fire of a spiritual or divine soul. Religions usually act with a mission and intention of presenting specific teachings and doctrines while nurturing and propagating a particular way of life.

Religion and spirituality can blend beautifully
Different religions can look quite unlike one another. Some participants bow to colorful statues of deities, others listen to inspired sermons while dressed in their Sunday finery, and yet others set out their prayer rugs five times a day to bow their heads to the ground. Regardless of these different outer manifestations of worship, the kernel of religion is spirituality, and the essence of spirituality is God or the Supreme Being.

Spirituality is:

• Beyond all religions yet containing all religions

• Beyond all science yet containing all science

• Beyond all philosophy yet containing all philosophy

As one becomes more spiritual, animalistic aggressions of fighting and trying to control the beliefs of other people can be cast off like an old set of clothes that no longer fits. In fact, many seekers begin to feel that every image of divinity is just one more face of their own, eternally ever-present God.

http://www.dummies.com/religion/spirituality/exploring-the-meaning-of-spirituality/

 

[Deidara]

Nice.. Why 'especially developed world'..?

In the developed world majority of people are at higher spiritual levels. The environment they live in helps them achieve those levels.

 

[zip]

In the developed world majority of people are at higher spiritual levels. The environment they live in helps them achieve those levels.

Hmmm I think it's not as simple as that but western society certainly looks more mature than others..

 

[Yaseen1]

I think the concept of most powerful who is controlling all the world is important for spirituality .Any concept which tends to lower the power of creater is misleading.For this concept it is necessary that GOD should be one and alone.This concept is only seen in Islam if you compare Islam with any
religion of the world

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Inner sound? Allahs sound? If you are talking about miracles then number of miracles were bestowed upon Prophets of Allah to prove their claim of Prophethood. You are definitely struggling to explain yourself because i have no clue what inner sound you are talking about which connect us to creator. We Muslim find inner peace when we offer Salah and bow down to Allah which is sufficient for us.

By the way Prophet Moses (PBUH) did wished to speak to God directly and Quran mentioned it

And when Musa (Moses) came at the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord spoke to him, he said: "O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You." Allah said: "You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain if it stands still in its place then you shall see Me." So when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He made it collapse to dust, and Musa (Moses) fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers.

Well said bro. Namaz (salah) is the only way of communication with Allah the creator. The rest are just ways which get you lost if you dont keep your namaz.
Now a days people talk about being nice good heated is enough for muslims no one talks about Namaz which is the most important thing in Islam and there is only one difference between muslim and non muslim is Namaz.

Do these sufis claim that they get in contact with ALLAH through Elham? ............. like do they say that they get their guidance direct from ALLAH?

sufism and spirtuality only leads to Islam and islam teach us the Oness of Allah. Surah Ikhlas straightly tells us. There is a way to get hidayat from Allah, no one can communicate or get ilham but one can seek guidance and pray istikhara and wait.

 

[zip]

I think the concept of most powerful who is controlling all the world is important for spirituality .Any concept which tends to lower the power of creater is misleading.For this concept it is necessary that GOD should be one and alone.This concept is only seen in Islam if you compare Islam with any
religion of the world

Most powerful and controlling all the world!! But insecurities of fundamentalist make him look very fragile..

 

[Yaseen1]

Insecurities and weakness of creatures not impact the strength of CREATOR because HE is CREATOR strength belongs to GOD.We humans and all the things are created by ALLAH ALMIGHTY we all are weak .If suppose ALLAH ALMIGHTY give us all the powers then people will not be able to distinguish between GOD and HIS creatures.If we are facing difficulties it may be the test of our faith in GOD and also due to the sins which we commit in our life.

Most powerful and controlling all the world!! But insecurities of fundamentalist make him look very fragile..

 

[zip]

Insecurities and weakness of creatures not impact the strength of CREATOR because HE is CREATOR strength belongs to GOD.We humans and all the things are created by ALLAH ALMIGHTY we all are weak .If suppose ALLAH ALMIGHTY give us all the powers then people will not be able to distinguish between GOD and HIS creatures.If we are facing difficulties it may be the test of our faith in GOD and also due to the sins which we commit in our life.

You have given it a name Allah, Hindus call it atman, Christians holy spirit and for an atheist it's just pure conscious.. And we start to fight just for name and description of the same due to our limited knowledge of one another..

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Well said bro. Namaz (salah) is the only way of communication with Allah the creator. The rest are just ways which get you lost if you dont keep your namaz.
Now a days people talk about being nice good heated is enough for muslims no one talks about Namaz which is the most important thing in Islam and there is only one difference between muslim and non muslim is Namaz.


sufism and spirtuality only leads to Islam and islam teach us the Oness of Allah. Surah Ikhlas straightly tells us. There is a way to get hidayat from Allah, no one can communicate or get ilham but one can seek guidance and pray istikhara and wait.

The problem with Muslims is that they don't want to see a world out of wall.
You guys must search deeply about connection between Human beings and The Almighty. Dont be blind. Who are those people who can connect with the Almighty while they are alive!!! Spiritualism is not based on imagination stories like you guys are reading since your childhood.
I will recommend you watch this Discovary Documentary the whole and then find me a single muslim in the whole world who has divine power like this 14 years boy. Must watch for Muslims.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

The problem with Muslims is that they don't want to see a world out of wall.
You guys must search deeply about connection between Human beings and The Almighty. Dont be blind. Who are those people who can connect with the Almighty while they are alive!!! Spiritualism is not based on imagination stories like you guys are reading since your childhood.
I will recommend you watch this Discovary Documentary the whole and then find me a single muslim in the whole world who has divine power like this 14 years boy. Must watch for Muslims.

We have faith it restrict us and define boundries. We also have guide lines why we need to jump from place where we already know there is no coming back. Tricks and magicians are not new to us.
i suggest to do one thing for your own self that ask Almight to guide you the Right Path every night before you sleep. if you are honest in your seeking i bet help will come. Insha'Allah.