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Sir, how about using some chemical as catalyst in water or perhaps boiling water may need less energy to split than 142kJ as you suggested?

Hess's Law states that the heat transferred, or change in enthalpy in a reaction is the same regardless whether the reaction occurs in a single step or in several steps. Thus adding boiling water or anything else will not change total energy required in splitting the water, since you will need energy to heat the water. Water can also be split thru photo electrolysis as well but energy requirements remain the same.

Here the basic principle is that energy required for one reaction is equal to what is generated when the reverse reaction takes place. Thus there is no extra energy left over to perform the work such as propelling a 1000 Kg car at 30 miles an hour.

Of course one can produce hydrogen simply by using the chemical reaction of Hydrochloric Acid and Zinc.

Zn + 2 HCl = H2 + ZnCl2

But then the fuel won’t come out of the water tap.

I have nothing more to say on this subject.
 

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Hess's Law states that the heat transferred, or change in enthalpy in a reaction is the same regardless whether the reaction occurs in a single step or in several steps. Thus adding boiling water or anything else will not change total energy required in splitting the water, since you will need energy to heat the water. Water can also be split thru photo electrolysis as well but energy requirements remain the same.

Here the basic principle is that energy required for one reaction is equal to what is generated when the reverse reaction takes place. Thus there is no extra energy left over to perform the work such as propelling a 1000 Kg car at 30 miles an hour.

Of course one can produce hydrogen simply by using the chemical reaction of Hydrochloric Acid and Zinc.

Zn + 2 HCl = H2 + ZnCl2

But then the fuel won’t come out of the water tap.

I have nothing more to say on this subject.


This is well and good Niaz Sahib

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How dare you challenge water car engineer and his heavenly sponsor Hazrat AQK raziallah unho.


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I hope people read your explanation and realize at least, there are some laws that govern physics and chemistry that goras figured out 2 to 3 centuries ago.

And as a Pakistani you cannot ignore these laws unless you have brain power to show these laws were missing some important components.
 
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The water car fraud

By Pervez Hoodbhoy
Published: August 2, 2012
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The writer received his bachelor degrees in electrical engineering and mathematics, as well as masters and Ph.D degrees, from MIT
[HI]Agha Waqar Ahmad deserves a medal from the people of Pakistan for his great service to the nation. In a few short days, he has exposed just how far Pakistan has fallen into the pit of ignorance and self-delusion. [/HI]No practical joker could have demonstrated more dramatically the true nature of our country’s political leaders, popular TV anchors and famed scientists.At first, it sounded like a joke: a self-styled engineer, trained in Khairpur’s polytechnic institute, claims to have invented a ‘water kit’ enabling any car to run on water alone. It didn’t matter that the rest of world couldn’t extract energy from water; he had done it. He promised a new Pakistan with limitless energy, no need for petrol or gas, and no more loadshedding. For an energy starved nation, it is a vision of paradise.
Agha Waqar Ahmad is now a national celebrity thanks to Religious Affairs Minister Khursheed Shah. Federal ministers Mir Hazar Khan Bijarani and Qamar Zaman Kaira have added their commendations. President Asif Ali Zardari has expressed his delight. The cabinet has met three times to discuss the water vehicle, and a fourth meeting is scheduled. Reports suggest millions may be spent on the ‘water fuel kit project’.
The media has rushed in to celebrate the new national hero. For TV anchor Talat Husain, thanks to Agha Waqar Ahmad’s invention, Pakistan’s image can go from a country ravaged by terrorism to one of boundless possibilities. Anchor Hamid Mir and Senator Parvaiz Rasheed drove around Islamabad sitting next to the inventor, wondering how to protect the man’s life from Western oil companies. Anchor Arshad Sharif was euphoric about the $14 billion Pakistan would save on oil imports.
[HI]Pakistan’s most celebrated scientists were not far behind. Asked by Anchor Sharif whether a car could run only on water, nuclear hero Dr Samar Mubarakmand replied without hesitation: “jee haan, bilkul ho sakta hai” (yes, absolutely possible). For his part, Hamid Mir asked Dr AQ Khan if there was any chance of this being a fraud. The response was clear: “Main nay apnay level per investigate kiya hai aur koi fraud waraud nahi kiya hai” (I have investigated the matter and there is no fraud involved). The head of the Pakistan Council of Scientific and Industrial Research, Dr Shaukat Parvaiz, went further: “hum nay bhi iss pay kam karaya tha” (we had some work done on this too).
[/HI]So, what is the problem? It’s that the laws of physics, in particular a fundamental scientific principle known as the Second Law of Thermodynamics, impose inviolable constraints. Every machine constructed anywhere uses the Second Law. This is something that I learned in my first year as a student at MIT and have taught for 40 years. No serious scientist would dream of challenging the Second Law. Agha Waqar Ahmad’s ‘water kit’, if one believes science to be right, simply cannot work. What the inventor, the ministers, the anchors and scientists claim on TV is wrong.
To his credit, the only person on TV that seemed to know this elementary principle was Dr Attaur Rahman, a chemist and a former HEC chairman. I have not agreed with all his actions and views in the past, but he alone rejected the claims about the new machine. Sadly, he was not able to hold back the tide of a nation desperate for any answer to its energy woes.
The water fraud will be exposed soon enough and, like a bad posterior smell, will go away. A simple experiment will make this happen faster. Here’s how: take an emergency electricity generator, of which there are thousands in Islamabad. Its engine is similar to that in a car. Remove the fuel tank and make sure the ‘water kit’ contains only water. Then ask the inventor to connect it up and run the generator. Let there be enough sharp-eyed witnesses of intelligence and integrity.
But this episode raises bigger questions. Scientific frauds exist in other countries, but what explains their spectacular success in Pakistan? Answer: our leaders are lost in the dark, fumbling desperately for a miracle; our media is chasing spectacle, not truth; and our great scientists care more about being important than about evidence. It is easy for them all to get away with this. As a nation, we have proven unwilling to do the hard work needed to learn to reason, to be sceptical, to demand proof, to understand even basic science. It is easier to believe the world is run by magic and conspiracies, to wish and wait for Aladin’s magic lamp. [HI]We live in the age of jahilliya.[/HI]
Published in The Express Tribune, August 3rd, 2012.
 
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This shows the scientific caliber of 'The Greatest Pakistani scientist and father of the Islamic bomb'...
 
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This shows the scientific caliber of 'The Greatest Pakistani scientist and father of the Islamic bomb'...

He is no forking father or mother or sister or brother of any bomb.

He was doing the work that was no more complicated than the work done by the peons and water and tea boys in the labs.

Conspiracy theory -ON
Pakistani government projected him to be this mother of bomb, so that Indians will come kill him instead of some real scientist.
Conspiracy theory - OFF

peace
 
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He is no forking father or mother or sister or brother of any bomb.

He was doing the work that was no more complicated than the work done by the peons and water and tea boys in the labs.

Conspiracy theory -ON
Pakistani government projected him to be this mother of bomb, so that Indians will come kill him instead of some real scientist.
Conspiracy theory - OFF

peace
Isn't Dr. AQ Khan a metallurgist-cum-physicist-cum-nuclear scientist-cum-rocket scientist?
 
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Isn't Dr. AQ Khan a metallurgist-cum-physicist-cum-nuclear scientist-cum-rocket scientist?


He could be all of it, and any of it (if you know what I mean).

But his role in the labs is nothing more than a water boy.

This pathetic charlatan has brought nothing but disgrace to Pakistan.

But he belongs to my community of Urdu Spanking People (UP for short, as UP of India from where most of our ancestors are from), so all of our top level media guys and Sarkari baboos have made him God Ganesha or Ravna (sorry to all those Hindu gods for this comparison) if you know what I mean.


Then he ended up smuggling some of the supplier info from the lab and sold it to pathetic looking buyers from Iran, Libya etc.


Such water boys should never have been allowed even inside 5 miles radius of the lab.

But Pakistan did

And

paid a HUGE price.
 
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Buddy, those are called 'laws' for a reason, you cannot go against them. It's not possible, if you want to speak theoretically, then fine, water car and anything else may be possible.

Some of the greatest scientists and thinkers hold this second law, the law of entropy as a God given truth.

In short, it aint possible.

Unless someone manages to build a functional Maxwell's Demon. :D
 
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Here comes conspiracy theories.

@Roybot , stay tuned. :D

This is going to be epic.

Remember Ramar Petrol? Theories are still on- some 20 years after it made it's debut :)

Dudes, did he actually say that he wants to change second law of thermodynamics? He must be on to something BIG :drag::drag:
 
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100 years ago English church would have hanged you if you said that the earth is round.
Last week I spent two days fixing a problem following all the theoretic procedures we were taught yet I kept getting the undesired results, suddenly an out of box; a totally unscientific idea came to my mind; and within 15 minutes i got the desired results...in fact couldnt be any perfact

so o keep an open mind, i will buy his invention and try it for myself only if i can get hold of him, dont know how though
 
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100 years ago English church would have hanged you if you said that the earth is round.
Last week I spent two days fixing a problem following all the theoretic procedures we were taught yet I kept getting the undesired results, suddenly an out of box; a totally unscientific idea came to my mind; and within 15 minutes i got the desired results...in fact couldnt be any perfact

so o keep an open mind, i will buy his invention and try it for myself only if i can get hold of him, dont know how though

I think you have a bright future ahead of you, may be even the next Chairman of PCSIR. Good Luck! :)
 
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