South China Sea Forum

[ChineseTiger1986]

do you think US doesn't have rocket engines technologies?

they can made it, and it just incidentally Russian made is more cheaper than theirs

Sure, they can have their own, but the problem is the financial difficulty.

 

[tbquestion]

The next step, China will pull its huge oil rigs to the south, near the Natuna Islands. What do you think?

Logistically, it would be headache for China to put a rig near the Natuna island as it take the Chinese CG at least a week to get there each way from the Hainan. It would it more sense, for China to take the Spratly island from Vietnam and then based her CG there. Besides, China wouldnt want to upset Indonesia (or Malaysia), one of the most influential muslim country in the world (unlike the Uighur). Just imagine, a billion muslim extremists being pissed off with China!

The Epoch Times just report that China is massing troops and armors at the Vietnam-Chinese border. Lets hope it's only sabre-rattling.

Have you notice that Russia has been dead quiet since this SCS rig thing started. I guess it says a lot about who your friends are.

 

[ViXuyen]

Logistically, it would be headache for China to put a rig near the Natuna island as it take the Chinese CG at least a week to get there each way from the Hainan. It would it more sense, for China to take the Spratly island from Vietnam and then based her CG there. .

They already mobilized over 100 ships just to put the rig in the vincinity of the Paracel. If they try to put a rig in the Spratly using their Coast Guard, logistic distant will favor us as it takes them huge effort to resupply their ships. Distant from Hainan to the deep south side of our controlled Spratly island is 1500 km while from Cam Ranh to Spratly is just 600 km. If they try to invade the Spratly by force, good luck. Our airforce alone can launch a combine 136 anti-ship missiles at them not to mention our Navy can launch a combine 92 anti-ship missiles as well. I dare them to even try to invade our Spratly.

As for Indonesia, I think you guys will end up like the Flip. A couple of years ago, the gullible Flip were made to think by the Chinese that the SCS dispute is just between Vietnam and China so the Flips were unsupportive and us and sided with the Chinese instead. A few years later, the Chinese reward the Flip for their support by grabbing a shoal from the Flip

 

[rott]

India has always taken side with peace.

It is seen in this incident that peaceful Vietnam has forcefully bullied by China.

@Viet I have a suggestion for you, you should buy our Aircraft carrier INS Virat on deffered payment.

Though a bit old for modern standard yet it can send shivers in the spines of Chinese naval captains because it has capacity of 30 aircraft including Herriers and Helicopters.


We can fit this ship for extended period of 10 years more.

As for the missiles under 300Km ... the best missile we has is Brahmos -land sea version available.

Send Shivers to Chinese Naval Captains? Man, you've come a long way from the stone age. You've probably never heard of DF-21D? Or perhaps you pretend not to know it just so you could sell the AC to Vietnam?
AC carriers are sitting ducks when it comes head to head with the DF-21D. Nice try though. But I have to say, good marketing skills you got there.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Send Shivers to Chinese Naval Captains? Man, you've come a long way from the stone age. You've probably never heard of DF-21D? Or perhaps you pretend not to know it just so you could sell the AC to Vietnam?
AC carriers are sitting ducks when it comes head to head with the DF-21D. Nice try though. But I have to say, good marketing skills you got there.

We have many ways to sink that rusty piece of scrap.

 

[Rechoice]

We have many ways to sink that rusty piece of scrap.

 

[ViXuyen]

Come on, guys. The distant between Vietnam mainland to the Spratly is just 600 km, why would we need an aircraft carrier? Not only that we can't afford it, even if we can afford it, it would make no sense at all.

 

[rott]

We have many ways to sink that rusty piece of scrap.

Oh man, smart people we have here in PDF LOL

 

[Soryu]

Chinese fishing ships, tug boat (steel hull - large displacement 400-500 tons) which under leading by Chinese coast guard encircle and ram on Vietnamese ships.
I remember Chinese member said PRC don't need to used fishing-ships, but here we are:

 

[Soryu]

Result of attack, collision on Vietnamese side:

 

[cirr]

Sausage Factory

 

[Rechoice]

Sausage Factory

posting photo is your job ?

 

[Soryu]

posting photo is your job ?

swanky boys, very common in Chinese society, no need to care about him ...

 

[xunzi]

Lời bài hát: Việt Nam - Trung Hoa (越南—中国) (Đỗ Nhuận) - 1966

Đăng bởi: vituan774

Việt Nam - Trung Hoa núi liền núi, sông liền sông
Chung một biển Đông mối tình hữu nghị sớm như rạng đông
Bên sông tắm cùng một dòng,
Tôi nhìn sang đấy anh nhìn sang đây
Sớm sớm chung nghe tiếng gà gáy cùng
A...há...
Chung một ý, chung một lòng đường ta đi hồng màu cờ thắng lợi
A...há...
Nhân dân ta ca muôn năm
Hồ Chí Minh - Mao Trạch Đông!
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Yuènán zhōngguó shānliánshān shuǐliánshuǐ
Gònglín dōnghǎi wǒmen yǒuyì xiàng zhāoyáng
Gòngyòng yī jiāngshuǐ zǎo xiāng jiàn wǎn xiāng wàng
Qīngchén gòng tīng xióng jī gāo chàng
A--gòng lǐ xiǎng xīn xiānglián
Shènglì de lùshàng hóngqí piāoyáng
A--wǒmen gāo hū wànsuì
Húzhìmíng Máozédōng
--
Yuènán zhōngguó shān lián shānjiāng lián jiāng
Gòng lín dōnghǎi wǒmen yǒuyì xiàng zhāoyáng
Gòngyòng yī jiāngshuǐ zǎo xiāng jiàn wǎn xiāng wàng
Qīngchén gòng tīng xióng jī gāo chàng
A--gòng lǐxiǎng xīn xiānglián
Shènglì de lùshàng hóngqí piāoyáng
A--wǒmen gāo hū wànsuì
Húzhìmíng Máozédōng

 

[rott]

China owns sovereignty over the South China Sea rig: Australian expert

An Australian expert told Xinhua Sunday that China owns sovereignty over the location of its drilling operations that stoked Vietnam's opposition and anti-China violence.

The rig that China is operating is 80 nautical miles from China's Yongxing Island, which is indisputably an island under the regime of islands in the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) and thus entitled to an Economic Exclusive Zone (EEZ) and continental shelf, said Sam Bateman, a senior fellow S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS) of the Singapore-based Nanyang Technological University.

Bateman added that "despite global commentary that suggests otherwise, a negotiated maritime boundary in this area would likely place the rig within China's EEZ even if reduced weight was given to China's claimed insular features."

Vietnam claims that because the rig is closer to its mainland coast than to China's and well inside 200 nautical miles of its coast, it lies within its EEZ and on its continental shelf, Bateman said.

However, he said this argument may appear attractive but geographical proximity alone is not an unequivocal basis for claiming sovereignty or sovereign rights.

"There are many examples around the world of countries having sovereignty over features well inside the EEZ of another, or of EEZ boundaries being established significantly closer to one country than to another," Bateman said.

Bateman is also a former Australian naval commodore with research interests in regimes for good order at sea. He said Vietnam's current claim over Xisha Islands is seriously weakened by North Vietnam's recognition of Chinese sovereignty over the islands in 1958 and its lack of protest between 1958 and 1975.

A number of governments, including the United States, have explicitly or implicitly recognized Chinese sovereignty over some or all of the islands, Bateman argued.

The US has urged the claimant countries to exercise care and restraint. Against the historical background of American acceptance of China's sovereignty over Yongxing Island, it would be hypocritical now for Washington to make any stronger statement that might be seen as supportive of Vietnam's position, Bateman said.

China owns sovereignty over the South China Sea rig: Australian expert - Global Times