South China Sea Forum

[ManilaBoy45]

China Keeps Probing

Philippines: Chinese Vessels Remains Stationed at Scarborough Shoal

April 10, 2013: China continues to maintain patrol boats at the Filipino Scarborough Shoal in violation of a deal made last June. Not only did Chinese patrol boats soon return to Scarborough Shoal but Chinese fishing boats are again operating there and even erected a flimsy barrier (with rowboats, rope, and fishing nets) across the entrance to the lagoon and dared Filipino fishing boats to cross it. Scarborough Shoal is in waters the Philippines claim (according to international law).

The shoal is only 250 kilometers from the Philippines and 1,200 kilometers from China. Despite this, China claims ownership of Scarborough Shoal but has not yet used deadly force to assert that claim. What China is apparently doing is sending patrol boats from their fishery protection service to “protect their fishermen.” According to China, they are in compliance with the June deal, as they never agreed that Chinese fishing boats could not operate around Scarborough Shoal. The Philippines does not agree but has refrained from sending warships to the shoal and chasing the Chinese fishing boats away.

 

[Viet]

Yeah right clown you forgot to add that Indonesia is one of the most Anti-American countries in southeast Asia , 95% of Indonesia are muslims and have been protesting yearly in front of the US embassy over the American genocide in Iraq .

Singapore ? hahaha , 80% of singapore are ethnic chinese
Thailand ? 15% of thailand are ethnic chinese and control the economy back there , the current prime minister is originally chinese and most thailand exports go to china .

Listen clown no one in Asia is interested in confronting China , this is only a cheap game played by Japan to get the USA into this region but again you will gain nothing Just like how you did 40 years ago .

USA should focus on defending Israel and the next American president will return to the " middle east pivot " lol .

China is driving vietnam into an arms race to get your bankrupt dickhead , you will be screwed without a bullet .

You are such an idiot. China is the one who creates tension among its neighbors. Its aim is clear: hegemony in East and South East Asia. As for VN, we need more cooperations and supports from ASEAN, as well as from Japan, America and Russia. The stronger is Vietnam, the better it is for all.

 

[mahatir]

Good analysis, I would also like to add that our military and naval presence in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Australia and New Zealand in addition to our naval presence in Guam solidifies our practically unchallenged hegemony over Asia-Pacific.

The Chinese Governments' headstrong territorial claims , which have led to excitement in Japan and the Philippines, only plays to our favor. The United States will utilize this opportunity to support our strategic partners in the region as pretext to champion our hegemony and preserve it.

The problem with the Chinese is their historical claims , and their historical relations with their irritated neighbours. Its quite interesting to see how much hate there is between some Chinese posters against their Vietnamese neighbors. Such unprecedented hatred between Asian peoples.

As the saying goes, Divide and Conquer.

what a clown

You are such an idiot. China is the one who creates tension among its neighbors. Its aim is clear: hegemony in East and South East Asia. As for VN, we need more cooperations and supports from ASEAN, as well as from Japan, America and Russia. The stronger is Vietnam, the better it is for all.

China is driving you into bankruptcy stupid through an arm race , keep wasting money on military while your people continue escaping on boats to malaysia .

 

[VietHome]

China is dangerously aggressive in taking other people's lands. The country is a hungry beast that eats away other people's resources to satisfy its ever-growing expansionism. The only country in the world with border disputes with nearly all of its neighbors!! I don't believe for a second China "peaceful rise." They show their true color when people are not looking. Many Vietnamese died in 1988 to prove this fact. This is a Youtube video about that story. Caution: Graphic material. I have had to swallow my tears watching this.

go to youtube address /watch?v=NdZ3nZv9j8Q

Note: This is a video shot by Chinese propaganda machine, so it has been heavily edited and the commentary there is not to be trusted. The truth is, anticipating China's sneaky move to claim the island, Vietnam sent an unarmed landing craft and people over there first. China lost the competition and decided to use ship's cannon to shoot at Vietnamese soliders. Couldn't believe in their eyes that a "big, peaceful country" can act as such petty maniacal beast, these heroes died with their beloved flag wrapped around themselves. They died for their country, for one day the world will realize China's true nature.

The island name is Đá Gạc Ma (Johnson South Reef). The date is 3/14/1988

 

[selvan33]

East China Sea: China Says Japan Escalating Island Dispute By Scrambling Jets; China Urges Talks Over Disputed Islands

China accused Japan on Thursday of ratcheting up maritime tensions by scrambling jets to monitor Chinese aircrafts that approach a group of disputed islands in the East China Sea.

The remarks from the Chinese foreign ministry followed a Japanese defense ministry statement on Wednesday that the number of scrambles against Chinese planes nearly doubled to 306 in the year that ended in March, Reuters news agency reported.

That accounted for an increase in the overall number from 425 to 567, the highest level in 22 years, Japan's defense ministry said.


Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said China remained resolute in defending its claim to the islands, but it wanted to reach a solution through dialogue and negotiation.

"We all know Japan has continuously provoked and escalated tensions over the Diaoyu," Hua Chunying was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.

“What Japan needs to do is, not send more planes, but show sincerity and action and talk with China,” she added.

Beijing, in a defense white paper issued on Tuesday, had accused Japan of creating trouble by nationalizing the disputed islands.

“On the issues concerning China’s territorial sovereignty and maritime rights and interests, some neighboring countries are taking actions that complicate or exacerbate the situation, and Japan is making trouble over the issue of the Diaoyu Islands,” the Chinese government statement said.

Tokyo responded immediately by protesting the paper through diplomatic channels, repeating that there was no territorial dispute between the two countries because the islands were Japanese territory, Japan’s Kyodo news agency reported.

The dispute over the uninhabited islands, known as the Senkaku Islands in Japan and the Diaoyu Islands in China, escalated on Sept.11 last year, when the Japanese government announced the signing of a contract worth 2.05 billion yen ($26 million) to buy three of the five main islands from their private owner.

The islands, which lie some 200km (124 miles) off Japan's Okinawa island and beyond China's 200 nautical mile (370km) exclusive economic zone, are surrounded by an area rich in fisheries and are believed to contain significant hydrocarbon resources.

China has laid claim to the islands since the U.N. returned them to Japanese sovereignty in accordance with the Okinawa Reversion Agreement that ended the U.S. occupation of Okinawa. Despite the normalization of relations between China and Japan in 1972, repeated tussles involving fishing and patrol boats from China, Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong have occurred in the past.
East China Sea: China Says Japan Escalating Island Dispute By Scrambling Jets; China Urges Talks Over Disputed Islands

 

[jhungary]

East China Sea: China Says Japan Escalating Island Dispute By Scrambling Jets; China Urges Talks Over Disputed Islands

China accused Japan on Thursday of ratcheting up maritime tensions by scrambling jets to monitor Chinese aircrafts that approach a group of disputed islands in the East China Sea.

The remarks from the Chinese foreign ministry followed a Japanese defense ministry statement on Wednesday that the number of scrambles against Chinese planes nearly doubled to 306 in the year that ended in March, Reuters news agency reported.

That accounted for an increase in the overall number from 425 to 567, the highest level in 22 years, Japan's defense ministry said.


Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said China remained resolute in defending its claim to the islands, but it wanted to reach a solution through dialogue and negotiation.

"We all know Japan has continuously provoked and escalated tensions over the Diaoyu," Hua Chunying was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.

“What Japan needs to do is, not send more planes, but show sincerity and action and talk with China,” she added.

Beijing, in a defense white paper issued on Tuesday, had accused Japan of creating trouble by nationalizing the disputed islands.

“On the issues concerning China’s territorial sovereignty and maritime rights and interests, some neighboring countries are taking actions that complicate or exacerbate the situation, and Japan is making trouble over the issue of the Diaoyu Islands,” the Chinese government statement said.

Tokyo responded immediately by protesting the paper through diplomatic channels, repeating that there was no territorial dispute between the two countries because the islands were Japanese territory, Japan’s Kyodo news agency reported.

The dispute over the uninhabited islands, known as the Senkaku Islands in Japan and the Diaoyu Islands in China, escalated on Sept.11 last year, when the Japanese government announced the signing of a contract worth 2.05 billion yen ($26 million) to buy three of the five main islands from their private owner.

The islands, which lie some 200km (124 miles) off Japan's Okinawa island and beyond China's 200 nautical mile (370km) exclusive economic zone, are surrounded by an area rich in fisheries and are believed to contain significant hydrocarbon resources.

China has laid claim to the islands since the U.N. returned them to Japanese sovereignty in accordance with the Okinawa Reversion Agreement that ended the U.S. occupation of Okinawa. Despite the normalization of relations between China and Japan in 1972, repeated tussles involving fishing and patrol boats from China, Japan, Taiwan and Hong Kong have occurred in the past.
East China Sea: China Says Japan Escalating Island Dispute By Scrambling Jets; China Urges Talks Over Disputed Islands

Aren't this post misplaced??

Topic is South China Sea, not Senkaku

 

[selvan33]

Aren't this post misplaced??

Topic is South China Sea, not Senkaku

oops. am sorry.

 

[Soryu]

what a clown

China is driving you into bankruptcy stupid through an arm race , keep wasting money on military while your people continue escaping on boats to malaysia .

So you living in 198x time.... what old hag ....

 

[Malaya]

China is dangerously aggressive in taking other people's lands. The country is a hungry beast that eats away other people's resources to satisfy its ever-growing expansionism. The only country in the world with border disputes with nearly all of its neighbors!! I don't believe for a second China "peaceful rise." They show their true color when people are not looking. Many Vietnamese died in 1988 to prove this fact. This is a Youtube video about that story. Caution: Graphic material. I have had to swallow my tears watching this.

go to youtube address /watch?v=NdZ3nZv9j8Q

Note: This is a video shot by Chinese propaganda machine, so it has been heavily edited and the commentary there is not to be trusted. The truth is, anticipating China's sneaky move to claim the island, Vietnam sent an unarmed landing craft and people over there first. China lost the competition and decided to use ship's cannon to shoot at Vietnamese soliders. Couldn't believe in their eyes that a "big, peaceful country" can act as such petty maniacal beast, these heroes died with their beloved flag wrapped around themselves. They died for their country, for one day the world will realize China's true nature.

The island name is Đá Gạc Ma (Johnson South Reef). The date is 3/14/1988

China does not understand any civilized law, especially the ones crafted by the international countries. Though, they're predecessors signed the UNCLOS, unfortunately, the newbies in their politburo, do not understand what is all about. Pity on these Chinese, since they were inculcated since their childhood, that the only laws only to be followed are the only words spoken by their leaders.

 

[Rechoice]

what a clown



China is driving you into bankruptcy stupid through an arm race , keep wasting money on military while your people continue escaping on boats to malaysia .

Don't forget that Hua people escaped from mainland China to Phi, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore and South Vietnam in the past were Boat people. Same story was repeated 1978 from Vietnam, most of boat people were Hua.

 

[Viet]

Good analysis, I would also like to add that our military and naval presence in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand, Australia and New Zealand in addition to our naval presence in Guam solidifies our practically unchallenged hegemony over Asia-Pacific.

The Chinese Governments' headstrong territorial claims , which have led to excitement in Japan and the Philippines, only plays to our favor. The United States will utilize this opportunity to support our strategic partners in the region as pretext to champion our hegemony and preserve it.

The problem with the Chinese is their historical claims , and their historical relations with their irritated neighbours. Its quite interesting to see how much hate there is between some Chinese posters against their Vietnamese neighbors. Such unprecedented hatred between Asian peoples.

As the saying goes, Divide and Conquer.

My friend, actually Chinese love to bully the weak and kowtow to the mighty. The presence of America is necessary to stop any venture from China. The peace and prospertity in the Asia-Pacific region is too important.

As Viet we are best informed about their attitude. China´s territorial claims base on fresh air.

 

[ViXuyen]

China is driving vietnam into an arms race to get your bankrupt dickhead , you will be screwed without a bullet .

malaysia should start worrying; you guys are a joke just like the Filipino a couple of years ago for kissing Chinese as s. The Chinese have returned the Flip a favor for kissing their as s by swallowing a shoal right next to the Phillipines. Believe me, you weak and pathetic malay are the next sheep in line for the Chinese. The Chinese in malaysia have already screwed you up by owning more than 50% of your economy and turning you native malay into 2nd class citizen right on your homeland Look at malaysia's 40 richest and anyone can tell, most of those 40 are Chinse, not your pathetic malay

Viet Nam only spends about $1 billon a year in arms purchase while the Chinese spend $100 billion a year but we control most of the Spratly; we won't ever go bankrupted so you can rest your mind

 

[USAHawk785]

malaysia should start worrying; you guys are a joke just like the Filipino a couple of years ago for kissing Chinese as s. The Chinese have returned the Flip a favor for kissing their as s by swallowing a shoal right next to the Phillipines. Believe me, you weak and pathetic malay are the next sheep in line for the Chinese. The Chinese in malaysia have already screwed you up by owning more than 50% of your economy and turning you native malay into 2nd class citizen right on your homeland Look at malaysia's 40 richest and anyone can tell, most of those 40 are Chinse, not your pathetic malay

Viet Nam only spends about $1 billon a year in arms purchase while the Chinese spend $100 billion a year but we control most of the Spratly; we won't ever go bankrupted so you can rest your mind

No, the ethnic Malays have what African Americans of the United States have, a sense of entitlement. In Malaysia they call this 'Bumiputra', similar to the US' Affirmative Action policy.

You're right tho, the Chinese minority controls the economy of Malaysia. The brown-skinned Malays of Malaysia merely hold military positions and or governmental positions. The economy is controlled by the Chinese.

Malaysia also has a racist policy where the Indian Malaysians are considered bottom in the totem pole.

 

[USAHawk785]

malaysia should start worrying; you guys are a joke just like the Filipino a couple of years ago for kissing Chinese as s. The Chinese have returned the Flip a favor for kissing their as s by swallowing a shoal right next to the Phillipines. Believe me, you weak and pathetic malay are the next sheep in line for the Chinese. The Chinese in malaysia have already screwed you up by owning more than 50% of your economy and turning you native malay into 2nd class citizen right on your homeland Look at malaysia's 40 richest and anyone can tell, most of those 40 are Chinse, not your pathetic malay

Viet Nam only spends about $1 billon a year in arms purchase while the Chinese spend $100 billion a year but we control most of the Spratly; we won't ever go bankrupted so you can rest your mind

There is a striking dichotomy between Malaysia and the Philippines, tho. The Philippines cannot be touched, as it is a strategic and major Non-NATO ally of the United States. The US will never allow the Philippines to be touched by any other foreign power.

As for Malaysia, she has no major ally to support her in a hypothetical war with China. She has no nuclear umbrella.

 

[mahatir]

There is a striking dichotomy between Malaysia and the Philippines, tho. The Philippines cannot be touched, as it is a strategic and major Non-NATO ally of the United States. The US will never allow the Philippines to be touched by any other foreign power.

As for Malaysia, she has no major ally to support her in a hypothetical war with China. She has no nuclear umbrella.

We have 2 major Ally China and Indonesia , by the way we bombed the philippines border during the sabah conflict 2 month ago and killed over 100 philipinos what did the united states do ? nothing .

The chinese Navy took over James Shoal and continuously passes into philipines waters what did your united states do ? nothing

Your Nato is broken up clown , both Germany and France are against the united states and you really have no allies except britain who I would question their future commitment to any war.

south korea is locked with north and if the north unites with south then they will turn against your ******* country , as for Japan its no more than a toothless *****

malaysia should start worrying; you guys are a joke just like the Filipino a couple of years ago for kissing Chinese as s. The Chinese have returned the Flip a favor for kissing their as s by swallowing a shoal right next to the Phillipines. Believe me, you weak and pathetic malay are the next sheep in line for the Chinese. The Chinese in malaysia have already screwed you up by owning more than 50% of your economy and turning you native malay into 2nd class citizen right on your homeland Look at malaysia's 40 richest and anyone can tell, most of those 40 are Chinse, not your pathetic malay

Viet Nam only spends about $1 billon a year in arms purchase while the Chinese spend $100 billion a year but we control most of the Spratly; we won't ever go bankrupted so you can rest your mind

LOL you will be Isolated in Asean vietcong thailand , indonesia and malaysia all against your ****** country , as for philippines we no they are nothing better than being maids in our country.

Malaysia economy is triple vietnam's economy yet we have 1/4 your populations, show how " strong " your country is clown .