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Range of China's DF-21D Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile (ASBM)

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[Note: Thank you to EastWind for the picture.]

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US Naval War College: China's DF-21D ASBM costs $5 to $10.5 million per missile

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A Chinese DF-21D ASBM costs only $5 to $10.5 million. China can afford to build hundreds of them.

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Out of the 100 DF-21D ASBMs fired at a single aircraft carrier, China only needs one or two hits to achieve a "soft kill" (e.g. knocked out of combat). If there are more impacts, the carrier might sink.

I have suggested China may fire 100 DF-21D ASBMs to arrive near-simultaneously and attack an aircraft carrier. However, is this economically feasible? As shown in the citation below, each DF-21D ASBM costs between $5 to $10.5 million per missile.

We'll pick the upper range and say each DF-21D ASBM costs $10 million. A bombardment of 100 DF-21D ASBMs will cost a total of $1 billion. This is a cost-effective way to attack a $5 billion aircraft carrier.

Anyway, in a war, costs don't really matter. China will attempt to sink the aircraft carrier with sufficient numbers of DF-21D ASBMs regardless of cost.

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From the third page at the following link from the US Naval War College:

http://www.usnwc.edu/getattachment/...9d27/The-Strategic-Implications-of-Obscurants

"While it is problematic to estimate accurately the cost of the DF-21, sources place the unit price, in U.S. currency, between $5,000,000 and $10,500,000 per missile.[7] This seems a reasonable estimate in light of the cost of a similar weapon, the U.S. Pershing II, which adjusted for inflation would be roughly twelve million dollars per missile. In comparison, the ballistic-missile-defense-capable SM-3 costs roughly ten million dollars per missile. At first blush, the nearly equal prices of interceptor (SM-3) and ASBM (DF-21) suggest near parity in cost ratio, but a “shoot two to kill one” doctrine means a differential of nearly ten million dollars per exchange. However, even this is misleading, as the launch platform—essentially a big truck—of the DF-21 is far less expensive than that of the SM-3, a warship. This estimate also ignores the operational and developmental challenges of intercepting an ASBM; nor does it fold in the things like purchasing power disparity, labor costs, and government controls, which all favor China. Nonetheless, this simple cost comparison is striking."
 
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Did you read what I wrote?

I have expected it to be difficult to talk with illiterate. But yours is beyond hilarious... your lack of education and imagination is worse than any homo erectus…

According your Vietnamese logic, One foot Island should be only one foot in size.


One Foot Island

Overview of a place to visit: One Foot Island in Cook Islands - Aitutaki

LOL! Heard of inch island?


Photo of Inch Island looking north from Grianan of Aileach with Lough Swilly in the Background and foreground. The black line at right is the causeway.


Map of Inch Island in Inch Island - Ireland - An Ireland Attraction

Are both of them beyond your ill-educated Vietnamese logic?

:rofl:

A reminder: 1 inch = 0.0254m and 1 foot = 12 inches.

:lol:

Funny viets based on funny logic to claim sovereignty.

:lol:

Spratly Islands in Vietnamese: Bãi Cát dài or Truong Sa, name was writing in Han character 萬里長沙 in records of Vietnam in the past. It mean that Islands are allocated one by one, nearby in the chain of Islands, in area with surrounding should be very long in term of 萬里 (wan ly = 10,000 里 = 10,000 X 500 m = 5,000 km). It doesn't mean it is correctly 5,000 km..
 
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Actually, if China does not poke its noses around on these Islands then their lives are pretty SAVE. Don't you think?
ahfatzia means
are those people all volunteer to be there and not just drived by the government.
China has nothing to to with your GOV drived your people to immigrate to those islands of under viet's control
 
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Very beautiful photos. I can see Vietnam has school, hospital and even temple in the islands. Thanks. How many people are living in Spartly islands? I guess not less than 1000 people. Could you please give some information of these photos?
i don't know much information about those islands
but i can tell you something of a island which is similar to the islands
it is a island we called Yong xing and cost about 8 hours sailed from mainland China to there
such a small island that less than 500 people live there most of them are fishmen and navy sailers
we can find fresh water there but the water there are really tough to be drunk so we use a pool to collect rain water
drinking is collected water and using island water for washing
electricity is enough and internet and mobile phone can be used there
if you are tolerant enough of boring , live there should be good
 
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ahfatzia means
are those people all volunteer to be there and not just drived by the government.
China has nothing to to with your GOV drived your people to immigrate to those islands of under viet's control

All volunteer, mates. Look at the pictures and see their smile, you will know.
Example:
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Translate: Young teacher volunteer to teach in Spartly.
http://vietnamnet.vn/vn/xa-hoi/chuyen-dong-tre/45433/-em-xac-dinh-phai-ra-truong-sa--.html
Translate: Many young teachers volunteer to go to Spartly.
Just do a google translate.
 
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Very beautiful photos. I can see Vietnam has school, hospital and even temple in the islands. Thanks. How many people are living in Spartly islands? I guess not less than 1000 people. Could you please give some information of these photos?


Yes, Bro, we will continue to introduce some of images and information from the Vietnamese newspapers...

This is the statue of General Trần Hưng Đạo in Song Tử Tây Island.
Stone statue, 11m high, in Song Tử Tây island commune, Trường Sa dictrict, Khánh Hoà province, Vietnam:

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Trần Hưng Đạo (1228–1300) was the Supreme Commander of Đại Việt during the Trần Dynasty. Born as Prince Trần Quốc Tuấn, he commanded the Đại Việt armies that repelled two major Mongol invasions in the 13th century.[1] His multiple victories over the mighty Mongol Yuan Dynasty under Kublai Khan are considered among the greatest military feats in world history. General Trần Hưng Đạo's military brilliance and prowess are reflected in many warfare treatises that he authored. Trần Hưng Đạo is regarded as one of the most accomplished military tacticians in history.


The trees in the photos that are Cây Phong Ba, in Song Tử Tây island commune:

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A Việt Kiều visits Trường Sa Islands, Vietnam motherland.
 
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Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ;3276699 said:
Bro, gpit was just trolling, he never want to discuss or argue. Don't loose time with him. Make him troll himself.
If our chinese friends are losing the argument they'll resort to bragging about their Chinese military and how it will fare over the countries with little to no external defense forces. Just stupid.

And oh wow! Chinese anti-ship missiles will really scare the US now. That's if the Chinese can even fire one on the American's symbol of strength.

Learn from history: The Germans made sure they need to defend only 1 side of their country until they decided to breakup with the allies. China doesnt have that luxury. They have NK, HK, PK and Cambodia as allies which one US ally can easily handle by her own, ie Australia, India or Japan. An all out war wont be easy for the US but China will lose terribly be back to what they were in their 2000 year old history - humiliated and back to being dirt poor.
 
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If our chinese friends are losing the argument they'll resort to bragging about their Chinese military and how it will fare over the countries with little to no external defense forces. Just stupid.

And oh wow! Chinese anti-ship missiles will really scare the US now. That's if the Chinese can even fire one on the American's symbol of strength.

Learn from history: The Germans made sure they need to defend only 1 side of their country until they decided to breakup with the allies. China doesnt have that luxury. They have NK, HK, PK and Cambodia as allies which one US ally can easily handle by her own, ie Australia, India or Japan. An all out war wont be easy for the US but China will lose terribly be back to what they were in their 2000 year old history - humiliated and back to being dirt poor.

China is 20 Germanies

You're retarded.

1. China has 15 times more people than Germany.

2. China is 20 times larger geographically than Germany.

3. China has at least 294 megatons of thermonuclear weapons at last count from years ago.

If Germany were present-day mega-sized China, it would have annexed all of its neighboring countries.

By the way, Filipino monkeys have no right to brag and speak on behalf of the United States. The U.S. gave your country a measly $30 million in military aid for 2012 to make you go away. That can hardly be called strong support.

No one will fight a war for Filipinos. There is no vital U.S. national interest. You Filipinos will have to eventually face the PLA Navy on your own.

In 1988, at the battle of Johnson Reef, the Vietnamese sent out their marines for a showdown with the PLA Navy. The PLA Navy wiped out all of the Vietnamese marines, except for one survivor. The Vietnamese were stupid to confront a Chinese frigate, but at least they had guts.

Come out you Filipino chickens. You and your monkey leader Aquino trash talk a lot, but where are your Filipino marines? Send them out and let the PLA Navy mow you idiots down.
 
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If our chinese friends are losing the argument they'll resort to bragging about their Chinese military and how it will fare over the countries with little to no external defense forces. Just stupid.

And oh wow! Chinese anti-ship missiles will really scare the US now. That's if the Chinese can even fire one on the American's symbol of strength.

Learn from history: The Germans made sure they need to defend only 1 side of their country until they decided to breakup with the allies. China doesnt have that luxury. They have NK, HK, PK and Cambodia as allies which one US ally can easily handle by her own, ie Australia, India or Japan. An all out war wont be easy for the US but China will lose terribly be back to what they were in their 2000 year old history - humiliated and back to being dirt poor.

We can certainly take you or any one dare to challenge China along with us...be back to 2000 years.

The question is do you have a history 2000 years ago?
 
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China is 20 Germanies

You're retarded.

1. China has 15 times more people than Germany.

2. China is 20 times larger geographically than Germany.

3. China has at least 294 megatons of thermonuclear weapons at last count years ago.

If Germany were present-day mega-sized China, it would have annexed all of its neighboring countries.

By the way, Filipino monkeys have no right to brag and speak on behalf of the United States. The U.S. gave your country a measly $30 million in military aid for 2012 to make you go away. That can hardly be called strong support.

No one will fight a war for Filipinos. There is no vital U.S. national interest. You Filipinos will have to eventually face the PLA Navy on your own.

In 1988, at the battle of Johnson Reef, the Vietnamese sent out their marines for a showdown with the PLA Navy. The PLA Navy wiped out all of the Vietnamese marines, except for one survivor. The Vietnamese were stupid to confront a Chinese frigate, but at least they had guts.

Come out you Filipino chickens. You and your monkey leader Aquino trash talk a lot, but where are your Filipino marines? Send them out and let the PLA Navy mow you idiots down.
@everyone, this just proved my point.

@Martian2, We were there. We're out there. We're ready. With whatever we have, we're always ready. Are you ready? Just shoot so that we can humiliate you again 20 chinese:1 Filipino.
 
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China is 20 Germanies

You're retarded.

1. China has 15 times more people than Germany.

2. China is 20 times larger geographically than Germany.

3. China has at least 294 megatons of thermonuclear weapons at last count years ago.

If Germany were present-day mega-sized China, it would have annexed all of its neighboring countries.

By the way, Filipino monkeys have no right to brag and speak on behalf of the United States. The U.S. gave your country a measly $30 million in military aid for 2012 to make you go away. That can hardly be called strong support.

No one will fight a war for Filipinos. There is no vital U.S. national interest. You Filipinos will have to eventually face the PLA Navy on your own.

In 1988, at the battle of Johnson Reef, the Vietnamese sent out their marines for a showdown with the PLA Navy. The PLA Navy wiped out all of the Vietnamese marines, except for one survivor. The Vietnamese were stupid to confront a Chinese frigate, but at least they had guts.

Come out you Filipino chickens. You and your monkey leader Aquino trash talk a lot, but where are your Filipino marines? Send them out and let the PLA Navy mow you idiots down.

Yes, but combat capability of Chinese is not equal to 1% of Germans. Just look at the Chinese regular army (PLA) had been humiliated by the girls of Vietnamese militia force in 1979. :cheesy:

In 1988 the Chinese navy "fighted" with transport ships of Vietnam naval in SCS and the soldiers had no weapons! LOL

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Sino-Vietnam war 1979
 
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Yes, but combat capability of Chinese is not equal to 1% of Germans. Just look at the Chinese regular army (PLA) had been humiliated by the girls of Vietnamese militia force in 1979. :cheesy:

You're an idiot. You pretend as if there were no German prisoners of war during World War II.

At the Battle of Stalingrad, 90,000 Germans surrendered (see citation below).

In every war, there are prisoners taken on both sides. You keep posting a few pictures to try and convince others that Vietnam won the war. What a joke.

Reference: Battle of Stalingrad – a summary
 
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We can certainly take you or any one dare to challenge China along with us...be back to 2000 years.

The question is do you have a history 2000 years ago?
The Malay race shares the same history until the Age of Discovery. Our country fought all major wars in our land as an underdog. Our history wont tell you that we bowed down to anyone. But according from your 2000 history, your ancestors even kissed the feet of your former rulers just to stay alive. Pity.

We never oppressed anyone. Never. We went to Korea to defend the South from getting run over by the communists and your country was there (200,000) and was humiliated by our 7,000 soldiers. See the point? A few monkeys *****-slapped your stupid grandpas back to being rats. In all of America's wars, we were there because they need us in whatever capacity we can. If the most intelligent people in your country thinks we're alone, you could have fired the first shot already. But no shots fired. Just a lot of warnings that were ignored. Again, a pity.
 
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You're an idiot. You pretend as if there were no German prisoners of war during World War II.

At the Battle of Stalingrad, 90,000 Germans surrendered (see citation below).

In every war, there are prisoners taken on both sides. You keep posting a few pictures to try and convince others that Vietnam won the war. What a joke.

Reference: Battle of Stalingrad – a summary

But their rivals were powerful Allies [incl USA, USSR], not girls of a militia?
 
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