South China Sea Forum

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

If China's 80% claim is ridiculous, how about your 100% claim?

You see, Vietnam and Malaysia made a common map between two countries' waters for submission to the UN in 2009, and Vietnam-Indonesia joint patrols along the border sea of the two countries annual, and Vietnam-Philippines joint patrols in the Spratly Islands....

Clearly, all issues between ASEAN countries, which was and are resolving peacefully.

Only the greed claims of Chinese are still there, it is illogical, baseless, illegal ... it only has the support of many warships and the big mouths of Chinese.

 

[Fanling Monk]

You see, Vietnam and Malaysia made a common map between two countries' waters for submission to the UN in 2009, and Vietnam-Indonesia joint patrols along the border sea of the two countries annual, and Vietnam-Philippines joint patrols in the Spratly Islands....

Clearly, all issues between ASEAN countries, which was and are resolving peacefully.

Only the greed claims of Chinese are still there, it is illogical, baseless, illegal ... it only has the support of many warships and the big mouths of Chinese.

You keep saying China is greedy but neglect to mention Vietnam's hegemonic activities in SCS. Who give Vietnam the rights to patrol territories so far away from home and who has the authorities to give those rights. It's more of Vietnam just appoints herself to patrol those areas in dispute, isn't it?

 

[conan008]

Vietnam always plays the trick of a thief crying “Stop thief!”

 

[Rechoice]

Vietnam always plays the trick of a thief crying “Stop thief!”

China did it. Vietnam controlled peaceful from hundreds years ago with out any trouble with Man Qing China. Taiwan robbed Itu Aba 1956 and China robbed Hoang Sa 1974 recently.

 

[Fanling Monk]

Indeed thief crying:"Stop the thief!"

Vietnam never had possessions of those 40 islands until she systematically occupied them in 1974 behind everyone's back.

 

[Rechoice]

Indeed thief crying:"Stop the thief!"

Vietnam never had possessions of those 40 islands until she systematically occupied them in 1974 behind everyone's back.

Chinese invaded Hoang Sa of Vietnam 1974 with force.

The Route through Quảng Nam map depicting Bãi Cát Vàng - the Golden Sandbank - off the coast of Quảng Nam, 1634.

 

[Rechoice]

Those Latin alphabets look so out of place. Vietnam should revert back to beautiful Chu Nom.

Vietnamese is fair for old tradition. Han characters is symbol of literature class in China, Vietnamese people can make differences between them and idiot aggressive extremists controlled propaganda in China.

 

[Đảo Bạch Long Vỹ]

You're an idiot. You pretend as if there were no German prisoners of war during World War II.

At the Battle of Stalingrad, 90,000 Germans surrendered (see citation below).

In every war, there are prisoners taken on both sides. You keep posting a few pictures to try and convince others that Vietnam won the war. What a joke.

Reference: Battle of Stalingrad – a summary

But they were taken by main force of USSR, not by militia women of Vietnam That's the point there

Vietnam always plays the trick of a thief crying “Stop thief!”

We have historical evidences and international laws to prove our sovereignty. Philippines and Malaysia have international laws. What do you have? Invisible evidence? Military power?

Indeed thief crying:"Stop the thief!"

Vietnam never had possessions of those 40 islands until she systematically occupied them in 1974 behind everyone's back.

in 18th Century

 

[3starsandasun]

Are you talking about this?

And the Chinese and North Korean casualties?

 

[3starsandasun]

So did Philippines takes Vietnam, since she occupies 18 islands within your claim territory, to International Court? In fact you guys don't even dare to mention this fact in this forum here. Obviously you're willing to give those 18 islands to Dai Viet.

No. Not yet. There's more important things to consider than that. We're not going to kill each other if that is what you want to hear. Vietnam claims is huge but they respect other nation's claims. Our islands and theirs are almost right next to each other but you wont hear any news that a Vietnamese boat tried to ram any of our ships and vice versa. We dont use fishermen to fight for our navy. We send in our navy and stand our ground, alone, against Chinese ships as high as 94. We got balls. You dont.

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

You keep saying China is greedy but neglect to mention Vietnam's hegemonic activities in SCS. Who give Vietnam the rights to patrol territories so far away from home and who has the authorities to give those rights. It's more of Vietnam just appoints herself to patrol those areas in dispute, isn't it?

Your silly question made ​​me funny. Why is "who give"? It is the maritime boundary between Vietnam and Indonesia, Malaysia, Philppines and we patrol together, have a problem with the chinese there?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/168632-philipines-vietnam-navies-jointly-patrol-spratlys.html

PHL, Vietnam navies to jointly patrol Spratlys

Indonesia, Vietnam agree joint maritime patrols - Channel NewsAsia

PHL, Vietnam navies to jointly patrol Spratlys
TUESDAY, 27 MARCH 2012 18:28 RENE ACOSTA / REPORTER

THE Philippines and Vietnam have moved closer to jointly patrolling their claimed maritime territories in the disputed Spratly Group of Islands that are being aggressively claimed by China.
The standard operating procedure for the joint patrol by the country’s Navy and the Vietnam People’s Navy (VPN) of the Northeast Cay and Southwest Cay, both on the South China Sea, was signed by Vice Admiral Alex Pama, Navy flag officer in command and the Vietnam Navy’s commander in chief Adm. Nguyen Van Hien.

Lt. Col. Omar Tonsay, Navy spokesman, said Northeast Cay is occupied by the Philippines, and it is located 45 kilometers northeast of Pag-asa, the biggest island that is currently occupied by the country.

On the other hand, the Southwest Cay is occupied by Vietnam, and it is located 3 kilometers away from Northeast Cay.

 

[Martian2]

Your silly question made ​​me funny. Why is "who give"? It is the maritime boundary between Vietnam and Indonesia, Malaysia, Philppines and we patrol together, have a problem with the chinese there?

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/168632-philipines-vietnam-navies-jointly-patrol-spratlys.html

PHL, Vietnam navies to jointly patrol Spratlys

Indonesia, Vietnam agree joint maritime patrols - Channel NewsAsia

The problem with crappy Vietnamese and Filipino navies

Did anybody tell you that two combined crappy navies still equal a crappy navy?

Vietnam has a few corvettes. The most advanced Filipino ship is a 50-year-old World War II coast guard cutter.

Your navies are total garbage. They shouldn't even be allowed to be called a navy.

A single Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate could annihilate both of your crappy navies.

Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II Frigate

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

So did Philippines takes Vietnam, since she occupies 18 islands within your claim territory, to International Court? In fact you guys don't even dare to mention this fact in this forum here. Obviously you're willing to give those 18 islands to Dai Viet.

You want Vietnam and the Philippines to act against each other and then China is beneficiaries?

We are working together to fight the greedy bully. Views of the Philippines and Vietnam are to establish an area peace and cooperation on SCS.

No one agrees with the claims greed and absurd of China.

Main article: Philippines–Vietnam relations
Since the end of the Cold War relations between the Philippines and Vietnam have warmed rapidly. Today the Philippines and Vietnam are economic allies and have a free trade deal with each other. Both nations are a part of Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC). The Philippines and Vietnam have conducted joint military exercises together in the South China Sea and are trying to find ways to turn the Spratly Islands from an area of conflict to an area of cooperation.
Vietnam is also sometimes called the only communist military ally of the Philippines. The Philippines and Vietnam are also monitoring China's expansion into the South China Sea making sure that China is no threat to either Philippine or Vietnamese islands in the South China Sea. The Philippines also imports a large amount of writing material, clothes and other products from Vietnam. On May 2009, The Philippines signed an agreement with Vietnam to cooperate in the fight against crime and to ensure social order.[68] On January 2010, the Philippine Stock Exchange (PSE) signed a memorandum of understanding with the Vietnam bourse “for mutual collaboration and communication of information and experience” to facilitate the development and efficient operation of both securities markets.[69]

 

[Viet]

Indeed thief crying:"Stop the thief!"

Vietnam never had possessions of those 40 islands until she systematically occupied them in 1974 behind everyone's back.

Surely Vietnam has controlled both Paracel and Spratly islands since ages. VN sent Naval forces to avoid these islands illegally occupied by the Chinese.

picture by HieuLe

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

The problem with crappy Vietnamese and Filipino navies

Did anybody tell you that two combined crappy navies still equal a crappy navy?

Vietnam has a few corvettes. The most advanced Filipino ship is a 50-year-old World War II coast guard cutter.

Your navies are total garbage. They shouldn't even be allowed to be called a navy.

A single Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II frigate could annihilate both of your crappy navies.

Chinese Type 054A Jiangkai II Frigate

OMG, as usual, you start bragging about warships, modern weapons, Megaton ...