South China Sea Forum

[Nilgiri]

Well there are times that dumb decisions have been done in the past by every superpowers that had existed.

And todays superpowers and major powers have learnt from those experiences. China is a wise country that is playing long term here. Are they losing something massive with the status quo? Nope. They just keep prodding and poking, and bullying where they can get away with it. And the response by the other countries must be mature and reflective of that.

It has been re-opened, though we are making another naval base in Oyster Bay in Palawan which is nearer to the contested region in SCS.

Ah interesting to know. How big will the Oyster bay be? Will it be deep-water capable or just DDG max sized?

Also why dont PH and other countries (Vietnam) solve their differences over SCS (where there are overlaps in claims between them)...and then present a united front against China. That way you can coordinate much better. In theory both Subic and Cam Ranh Bay + whatever other ones needed should be integrated together as part of a SCS coalition network...with Naval aviation facilities as well for MPA's from local and foreign deployed assets.

I'm sure they can do this now. What you are suggesting isn't a base, just plain visits which China is currently doing in Europe somewhere.

I meant with intent of significant patrol/loiter/dominance in the long run. Possibly even run a multilateral exercise in the area....the discussion should be certainly on the table for PH and Vietnam.

 

[rcrmj]

its only matter of time that the U.S has to accept the reality of China's dominance```

sending a ship to SCS is only a facing saving and cheer-leading action to comfort those monkeys and baboons, to say, yeah! your American master will 'support' your idiocy of challenging China``

and at the end day, we are keep building infrastructures in SCS, and that causes sensational burning to those monkey and baboon clowns` fact

 

[Economic superpower]

Prediction:

Thread will go over 20+ pages.

Members will get banned.

@Hu Songshan You should monitor this thread for trolling and flame baiting before things get out of hand. Some well known trolls have entered the thread and are already flame baiting.

 

[gambit]

That's THE problem - what if China sinks one US Navy ship that just passes by?

Then the PLAN will know what defeat is like.

 

[Genesis]

I meant with intent of significant patrol/loiter/dominance in the long run. Possibly even run a multilateral exercise in the area....the discussion should be certainly on the table for PH and Vietnam.

So....a race to the bottom. Sounds fun.

The US has enough bases in Asia to launch something, one under-equipped Philippines base will make no difference. Also check the size and quality of the Chinese coast guard, unless the US wants to move its ENTIRE coast guard and more to Asia, it's not going to be effective.

You seem like a reasonable poser, all in all, do you agree, a couple of moves or islands won't decide much, it is the size of the economy, and might of the gun that decide things. So the well being of China's economy and the continued pumping of billions into China's military industry that's going to be the difference maker.

 

[Gijoe]

OH MY !!! US go into 12 miles of artificial island and china still don't stop. What the hell US will do next? Just tomahawk the Chinese people on the island and see if china will stop? only drifting around or staying there to watch china do some pose would not change anything. US go in there just to photo shoot the island and go show to the world we did it. We go in there, and the Chinese not scared at all. lol do something, have some guts or balls shoot them.. please...

 

[Economic superpower]

Then the PLAN will know what defeat is like.

Yup, exactly like Korean War.

 

[gambit]

Yup, exactly like Korean War.

Yup...Where China was defeated.

 

[DaiViet]

Seems internet Han warriors have full force in this thread, trying to spin the table around by claiming China wins again and U.S is loser for doing point less

 

[21stCentury]

Yup...Where China was defeated.

Dafuq? Lol! More like mighty US defeated by a backwards China. If China lost, North Korea wouldn't exist you doofus.

 

[gambit]

Dafuq? Lol! More like mighty US defeated by a backwards China. If China lost, North Korea wouldn't exist you dingus.

And if the US was defeated, South Korea would not exists, you ignorant and unthinking pup.

 

[TaiShang]

OH MY !!! US go into 12 miles of artificial island and china still don't stop. What the hell US will do next? Just tomahawk the Chinese people on the island and see if china will stop? only drifting around or staying there to watch china do some pose would not change anything. US go in there just to photo shoot the island and go show to the world we did it. We go in there, and the Chinese not scared at all. lol do something, have some guts or balls shoot them.. please...

What can China do, which is only a large developing country. China is in no way capable of policing the world and the only thing we can do is to weakly complain.

US is so magnaficious. That's why we let and even urged the US to keep policing in the Middle East, solve all the problems there like it always did and create a fertile ground for us to invest and do business.

US has once again proven how strong it is and we are now shaking in our boots. US really got what it wanted. The SCS will never be the same from this day on.

US, in one masterful strike, has proven what it is made of: Big Mac, gun and the Bible.

China will continue to complain until the last breath while the US does the doing.

 

[21stCentury]

Seems internet Han warriors have full force in this thread, trying to spin the table around by claiming China wins again and U.S is loser for doing point less

Why are you cheering for your mortal enemy? Remember they burned millions of Vietnamese with napalm and fire bombs and call your people 'gooks'?

 

[anon45]

Why are you cheering for your mortal enemy? Remember they burned millions of Vietnamese with napalm and fire bombs and call your people 'gooks'?

It seems like the only people on this forum who want Vietnam and the US to be mortal enemies are Chinese...

 

[21stCentury]

It seems like the only people on this forum who want Vietnam and the US to be mortal enemies are Chinese...

It's a reality check.