South China Sea Forum

[Malaya]

EU supports ASEAN in South China Sea issue
BY ACE TAMAYO
POSTED ON 05/17/2013

MANILA, Philippines – The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) disclosed on Friday, May 17, that a meeting between senior officials of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and the European Union (UN) was held in Ho Chi Minh, Vietnam to discuss disputes in the South China Sea.

In a statement, the DFA said that the EU reiterated its support “for the peaceful settlement of disputes in the South China Sea in accordance with international law, including the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).”

DFA reported that the EU underscored its interest in peace, maritime security, stability, freedom of navigation, and unimpeded commerce in the South China Sea and called on “concerned parties to clarify their claims on the basis of UNCLOS.”

Foreign Affairs Undersecretary Evan P. Garcia, who was the lead speaker on maritime security cooperation on May 15, discussed with the European leaders ASEAN’s efforts to push for a Code of Conduct (COC) with China, and the Philippines’ recourse to UNCLOS arbitration as “a means to promote a peaceful and rules-based solution to disputes in the West Philippine Sea.”

“The Philippines highly appreciates the EU’s support for the peaceful settlement of disputes in accordance with international law, including UNCLOS,” Undersecretary Garcia said.

On January 22, the Philippines decided to elevate the territorial dispute over the West Philippine Sea to Annex VII arbitration under the UNCLOS as the standoff between the Philippine Navy and Chinese fishing vessels that entered Scarborough Shoal continues a year since it began.

he government wants the tribunal to declare China's 9-Dash claim as "invalid" and "unlawful."

During the 22nd ASEAN summit on April 25, southeast Asian leaders called for urgent talks with China to ensure that increasingly tense territorial disputes over the South China Sea do not escalate into violence. – Rappler.com

EU supports ASEAN in South China Sea issue

I hope that your government pull enough political courage into defense. It has been a concern from some of my Filipino's friends that corruptions might hinder money for national security.

Btw, have you thought about coastal defense missiles? Those will be very effective weapons against off-shore attacks from You-Know-Who.

Couldn't agree more. Hoping Pnoy's administration will go full throttle to upgrade and modernize our military hardware and facilities. Our country needs this improved militarization to defend our territories from internal and external invasion.

 

[Malaya]

PAG-ASA ISLAND

 

[Fsjal]

^Never heard of so called "West Philippine Sea"^

Anyway, a potential target for Viet and Chinese planes

Also the runway needs repairing.

 

[Zero_wing]

To the troll well now you know so run along now the adults are talking anyway kabayan malaya nice pic saan may university na rin jan sunod tapos palingke SM dapat or Robinson para hindi na sila pumunta ng Puerto kaya gusto ko si Hagidon (hindi ko alam kung tama spelling ko ng last name niya) Kabayan sino binoto mo sa midterm elections?

 

[Malaya]

To the troll well now you know so run along now the adults are talking anyway kabayan malaya nice pic saan may university na rin jan sunod tapos palingke SM dapat or Robinson para hindi na sila pumunta ng Puerto kaya gusto ko si Hagidon (hindi ko alam kung tama spelling ko ng last name niya) Kabayan sino binoto mo sa midterm elections?

Hopefully in the future lagyan rin nila ng mall pati gawing tourist destination yan. Am sure mang gagalaiti yang mga Instsik na yan hehe...binoto ko rin si Hagedorn.

 

[Fsjal]

^The island is too small for a mall.^

It's always shop, shop shop. A resort wouldn't be bad, if the island was a bit bigger

Anyway, Pag-Asa island lacks any decent facilities for warplanes, let alone being targeted by Chinese planes. The island is defenseless

Q-5 attack planes

Su-27 fighter plane

JH-7 fighter bomber

 

[Zero_wing]

Hopefully in the future lagyan rin nila ng mall pati gawing tourist destination yan. Am sure mang gagalaiti yang mga Instsik na yan hehe...binoto ko rin si Hagedorn.

Nice bro saan nga pero Ayala ako mas maganda sila gumawa may dating kasi kay sa SM at Robinson sa Ayala lahat para may makati tayo sa Kalayaan hahahahaha Hindi seriyoso ako sana Ayala nga.

^The island is too small for a mall.^

It's always shop, shop shop. A resort wouldn't be bad, if the island was a bit bigger

Anyway, Pag-Asa island lacks any decent facilities for warplanes, let alone being targeted by Chinese planes. The island is defenseless

Q-5 attack planes

Su-27 fighter plane

JH-7 fighter bomber

Those are cheap copies please they can't lift itself so did you enjoy using free world internet troll?

I hope that your government pull enough political courage into defense. It has been a concern from some of my Filipino's friends that corruptions might hinder money for national security.

Btw, have you thought about coastal defense missiles? Those will be very effective weapons against off-shore attacks from You-Know-Who.

They are but our budget on defense is limited as for missile defense its on Phase 3 of the modernization plan but its going to be other decade to have one again limited budget and that damn bidding process i prefer G2G Government to Government no fuss at all clean as clean transaction but people in the DND prefer bidding.

 

[Minjitta]

China sweet talk to Phillipines to go against Vietnam (not joint Vietnam and Malaysia in the UN) and promised not to take Phillipines islands, guess Phillipines got suck punch by China.

 

[Soryu]

China sweet talk to Phillipines to go against Vietnam (not joint Vietnam and Malaysia in the UN) and promised not to take Phillipines islands, guess Phillipines got suck punch by China.

Their trick were success, lucky that USA was speaking want return Asia-Pacific in time... so China will slow down a bit, but not stop.

 

[Zero_wing]

3 PN Vessels Drive Away 3 Boats from China - Manila Standard Today

By Francisco Tuyay | Posted on May. 18, 2013 at 12:02am | 4,455 views

Philippine Navy ships used “bashing maneuvers” to drive away three fishing boats from mainland China that tried to occupy an island off Palawan in the West Philippine Sea on Tuesday, military sources said.

The fishing boats were in the vicinity of Ayungin Reef, also known as the Second Thomas Reef, when the Philippine Navy ships arrived and made “circling maneuvers” that forced the Chinese to move out, the source said.“They were forced to back-off several miles from Ayungin Reef after our ships arrived in the area,” said the source who spoke to the Manila Standard on condition of anonymity.Ayungin Reef, which is adjacent to Mischief Reef or Panganiban Reef, is only 150 miles off Palawan and 620 miles from southwest China. It was occupied by the Philippines in 1973.

The Chinese has occupied Scarborough Shoal or Bajo de Masinloc, which the Philippines has claimed as part of its territory. Filipino fishermen have been barred from entering the area.The Philippine Navy has sent three ships—a Peacock Class offshore patrol, a frigate-type PS 74, and Personnel Carrer bessel PS 71—to the area to prevent the Chinese from coming back, the source said.“At present they [the three fishing boats] are seen stationary several miles off Ayungin Reef. We are monitoring their movements,” the source said.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/china-far-east/253123-chinese-occupation-plot-foiled.html#ixzz2Tir0XbOR

Mabuhay ng Republika! Saludo ako sa PN

 

[Minjitta]

Their trick were success, lucky that USA was speaking want return Asia-Pacific in time... so China will slow down a bit, but not stop.

the old saying never trust China words and always monitor China actions

 

[Zero_wing]

the old saying never trust China words and always monitor China actions

Exactly! This people are pirates they have no word at all!

Anyway victory news for us:

Chinese foiled from occupying island
By Francisco Tuyay | Posted on May. 18, 2013 at 12:02am | 3,718 views


Philippine Navy ships used “bashing maneuvers” to drive away three fishing boats from mainland China that tried to occupy an island off Palawan in the West Philippine Sea on Tuesday, military sources said.

The fishing boats were in the vicinity of Ayungin Reef, also known as the Second Thomas Reef, when the Philippine Navy ships arrived and made “circling maneuvers” that forced the Chinese to move out, the source said.

“They were forced to back-off several miles from Ayungin Reef after our ships arrived in the area,” said the source who spoke to the Manila Standard on condition of anonymity.

 

[cirr]

4500-ton CFA 311 patrolling the SCS：

and protecting the fishing flottila

 

[NiceGuy]

Manmohan-Li talks: PM takes tough line on incursion issue
Pranab Dhal Samanta : New Delhi | Mon May 20 2013, 08:26 hrs

India rejects request to back Beijing stand on South China Sea (PTI)

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Sunday sought to draw the red line on border incursions with China, making it clear to his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang that peace and tranquillity on the boundary is at the “foundation” of this relationship and must be maintained.

In his hour-long interaction with Li ahead of their private dinner, sources said, Singh highlighted the fact that though there were existing mechanisms to deal with any misunderstanding on the ground, it still took a long time to resolve the recent incursion at Depsang.

Both leaders agreed that the two special representatives on the boundary question must look into this issue and examine the efficacy of existing mechanisms while coming up with ways to improve them.

On the issue of trans-boundary rivers, sources said, both sides have largely agreed on an expanded exchange of information on river data but the Chinese side is unwilling to spell out if this would include advance information on construction of dams. The understanding in the joint statement, as of now, reflects an improvement to the existing practice.

Even at the bilateral meeting, when the PM raised this issue, Li is said to have conveyed that China has been sensitive to the concerns of lower riparian countries. Overall, sources said, Li was extremely warm in his interaction with Singh, looking to move beyond the recent incursion issue.

However, negotiations on the joint statement have been far more tough, leading to more exclusions in a bid to arrive at a common understanding.

China, for instance, wanted the statement to endorse its position on South China Sea in the context of security in the Asia Pacific, which meant recognising that the disputes there were internal issues of each country and ought to be resolved bilaterally. It made a strong pitch, but India turned it down saying these were international waters where accepted laws of sea apply.

As a result, there is likely to be a mention of Asia Pacific, but only as an area where both countries have interest in maintaining peace and security.
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Manmohan-Li talks: PM takes tough line on incursion issue - Indian Express Mobile

Manmohan-Li talks: PM takes tough line on incursion issue
Pranab Dhal Samanta : New Delhi | Mon May 20 2013, 08:26 hrs

India rejects request to back Beijing stand on South China Sea (PTI)
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Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Sunday sought to draw the red line on border incursions with China, making it clear to his Chinese counterpart Li Keqiang that peace and tranquillity on the boundary is at the “foundation” of this relationship and must be maintained.

In his hour-long interaction with Li ahead of their private dinner, sources said, Singh highlighted the fact that though there were existing mechanisms to deal with any misunderstanding on the ground, it still took a long time to resolve the recent incursion at Depsang.

Both leaders agreed that the two special representatives on the boundary question must look into this issue and examine the efficacy of existing mechanisms while coming up with ways to improve them.

On the issue of trans-boundary rivers, sources said, both sides have largely agreed on an expanded exchange of information on river data but the Chinese side is unwilling to spell out if this would include advance information on construction of dams. The understanding in the joint statement, as of now, reflects an improvement to the existing practice.

Even at the bilateral meeting, when the PM raised this issue, Li is said to have conveyed that China has been sensitive to the concerns of lower riparian countries. Overall, sources said, Li was extremely warm in his interaction with Singh, looking to move beyond the recent incursion issue.

However, negotiations on the joint statement have been far more tough, leading to more exclusions in a bid to arrive at a common understanding.

China, for instance, wanted the statement to endorse its position on South China Sea in the context of security in the Asia Pacific, which meant recognising that the disputes there were internal issues of each country and ought to be resolved bilaterally. It made a strong pitch, but India turned it down saying these were international waters where accepted laws of sea apply.

As a result, there is likely to be a mention of Asia Pacific, but only as an area where both countries have interest in maintaining peace and security.
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Manmohan-Li talks: PM takes tough line on incursion issue - Indian Express Mobile

 

[ManilaBoy45]

Philippines Boosts Military to Resist 'Bullies' Amid China Dispute

$1.8 Billion in Military Upgrade

Published on May 21, 2013 | 5:47 PM

Philippine President Benigno Aquino III addresses the media shortly after leading the 115th Philippine Navy anniversary celebration at Fort San Felipe, Cavite city, south-west of Manila, Philippines on Tuesday, May 21, 2013. Mr Aquino on Tuesday announced a US$1.8 billion (S$2.26 billion) military upgrade to help defend his country's maritime territory against "bullies", amid an ever-worsening dispute with China.

In thinly veiled comments referring to China, Mr Aquino vowed during a speech to mark the navy's 115th anniversary that the armed forces would be given the resources necessary to protect Philippine sovereignty."We have a clear message to the world: The Philippines is for Filipinos, and we have the capability to resist bullies entering our backyard," Mr Aquino told naval chiefs.