Some in Pakistan shuns physicist linked to 'God particle'

[Meesna]

Hey, what's the story with the denouncing Ahmadis to get a passport thing ? Do you REALLY have to sign that stuff to get a passport in Pakistan ? Pretty weird, no ?

See for yourself;

http://www.embassyofpakistanusa.org/forms/A form fillable.pdf

Check section 16, specially item c, DECLARATION IN CASE OF MUSLIMS

Everyone has to spit on Ahmadis to get their passport and no one seems to have any issue with that. Imagine if a similar statement were written in reverse on US or Indian passport what hell would break loose by the very same people who support such statement on Pakistani passport against Ahmadis.

If anyone makes a statement like section 16c in reverse in Pakistan he gets death for blasphemy, however no issue if it is done against Ahmadis.

What a sick bunch of bigots these Pakistani Islamists are.

I don't know why i always dislike Hoodbhoy .

Oh I don’t know, may be because you are a typical Islamic bigot?

 

[Safriz]

See for yourself;

http://www.embassyofpakistanusa.org/forms/A form fillable.pdf

Check section 16, DECLARATION IN CASE OF MUSLIMS

Everyone has to spit on Ahmadis to get their passport and no one seems to have any issue with that. Imagine if a similar statement were written in reverse on US or Indian passport what hell would break loose by the very same people who support such statement on Pakistani passport against Ahmadis.

What a bunch of sick bigots these Pakistani Islamists are.



Oh I don’t know, may be because you are a typical Islamic bigots?

column 16. DECALARTION IN CASE OF MUSLIM

If you have any remaining brain cells and know english language you will know what the clause means....
It means you cannot call yourself a muslim if you are Qadiani,and thats the law as approved by Legislative assembly..

But it does not ban you from Declaring yourself Qadiani and getting Pakistani Passport...

 

[Meesna]

This article went viral today from liberal Guardian to the far right Fox and everything in between. All were spitting on Pakistan and Islam big time. So all those fanatic Islamic bigots who feel safe in their alternate universes on Pakistani forums can rest assure that the rest of the world is well aware of their wrong doings and shuns them for that.

Hey, what's the story with the denouncing Ahmadis to get a passport thing ? Do you REALLY have to sign that stuff to get a passport in Pakistan ? Pretty weird, no ?

Gets more interesting when you look at the law. Yes its a real law in Pakistan;

ORDINANCE NO. XX OF 1984
PART II - AMENDMENT OF THE PAKISTAN PENAL CODE (ACT XLV OF 1860)
(3) 298C... Any person of the Quadiani group or the Lahori group (who call themselves ‘Ahmadis’ or by any other name), who … invites others to accept his faith, by words, either spoken or written, or by visible representations, or in any manner whatsoever outrages the religious feelings of Muslims, shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three years and shall also be liable to fine.

 

[Safriz]

This article went viral today from liberal Guardian to the far right Fox and everything in between. All were spitting on Pakistan and Islam big time. So all those fanatic Islamic bigots who feel safe in their alternate universes on Pakistani forums can rest assure that the rest of the world is well aware of their wrong doings and shuns them for that.

Nothing unusual..The world is obsessed with despising Pakistan...

And before you start..We are a Muslim country and have laws according to our islamic ideology..
Like it or leave it..

This article went viral today from liberal Guardian to the far right Fox and everything in between. All were spitting on Pakistan and Islam big time. So all those fanatic Islamic bigots who feel safe in their alternate universes on Pakistani forums can rest assure that the rest of the world is well aware of their wrong doings and shuns them for that.



Gets more interesting when you look at the law. Yes its a real law in Pakistan;

The law stops Imposters from Spreading their Lies and thats fair enough..
Qadianis were created to confuse muslims about one of the most important concepts of Islam and Islamic Republic of Pakistan has laws in Place to safeguard it.
The law does not stop somebody from BEING a Qadiani or Practicing their Qadiani faith...
Each to their own..every country is entitled to make laws which suit their needs and requirements...

 

[Meesna]

Similarly, you need to meet the definition of a Muslim to be a Muslim. Ahmedis don't meet that definition.

This is basic stuff people, I feel like I am teaching an elementary class.

What is the definition of a Muslim because I can get fatwas of senior Ulema who say Shias, Doebandis, Brelvis , Ahl-e-Hadith all are kafir and then some?

 

[Rusty]

@ all the Indians who are asking what the definition of a Muslim is.

If you don't even know this basic fact then how can you even hope to argue about Islam?
It's like monkeys arguing with Einstein over physics.

The monkeys cant even add 2+2, yet they feel they have the right to challenge him.

Similarly, Indians here don't even know the basics of Islam and yet they feel they can argue with us about our religion.


To be a Muslim you must believe that there is only one God and that the Prophet Mohammad was his last messenger.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
(lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh)

Ahmedis are not Muslims because they violate the last part of the oath.
They think Mirza gulam Ahmed was also a prophet and thus they cannot be Muslim.

See, that was pretty easy.
No confusing animistic demi gods here

 

[Meesna]

@ all the Indians who are asking what the definition of a Muslim is.

If you don't even know this basic fact then how can you even hope to argue about Islam?

First get the Maulanas to agree on a definition;

fatwa, deobandi kafir, brelvi kafir, ahle hadith kafir, kuttay, wahabi

 

[Agni5000]

@ all the Indians who are asking what the definition of a Muslim is.

If you don't even know this basic fact then how can you even hope to argue about Islam?
It's like monkeys arguing with Einstein over physics.

The monkeys cant even add 2+2, yet they feel they have the right to challenge him.

Similarly, Indians here don't even know the basics of Islam and yet they feel they can argue with us about our religion.


To be a Muslim you must believe that there is only one God and that the Prophet Mohammad was his last messenger.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
(lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh)

Ahmedis are not Muslims because they violate the last part of the oath.
They think Mirza gulam Ahmed was also a prophet and thus they cannot be Muslim.

See, that was pretty easy.
No confusing animistic demi gods here

Don't be naive. Who told you and how you know abt it?

 

[Safriz]

What is the definition of a Muslim because I can get fatwas of senior Ulema who say Shias, Doebandis, Brelvis , Ahl-e-Hadith all are kafir and then some?

well if you dont know the definition of muslim and displaying Pakistani Flag..
there is something wrong with you...

 

[Meesna]

To be a Muslim you must believe that there is only one God and that the Prophet Mohammad was his last messenger.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
(lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh)

Where is the word ‘Last’ in kalima?

Arabic text: listen (help·info)
[1] لَآ اِلٰهَ اِلَّا اللّٰهُ مُحَمَّدٌ رَّسُوْلُ اللّٰهِؕ
Transliteration:
"lā ilaha illela Allahu, Muhammad ur-rasul Ullah"
English rendering:
There is no god but Allah, Muhammad [peace be upon him] is the messenger of Allah.

Six Kalimas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you even know your own kalima? What does this make you, a non-Muslim?

See, that was pretty easy.

Then how come you got it wrong?

 

[Safriz]

Where is the word ‘Last’ in kalima?



Six Kalimas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Do you even know your own kalima? What does this make you, a non-Muslim?



Then how come you got it wrong?

If you are Qadiani you are doing a good job defending your fakery...
But Muslims dont agree with you....

 

[Meesna]

If you are Qadiani you are doing a good job defending your fakery...
But Muslims dont agree with you....

Kalima is an Ahmadi fakery and rest of Muslims don’t agree with it? That’s a new one. And look who blames who of making up own beliefs.

 

[Safriz]

Kalima is an Ahmadi fakery and rest of Muslims don’t agree with it? That’s a new one. And look who blames who of making up own beliefs.

Denial of Prophet Muhammad being tyhe Last Prophet and Inventing a new Prophet who was challenged and defeated in Debates by many Muslim Scholors of his era...such as Pir Meher Ali of Golra....
Thats the Qadiani Fakery i am on about...

You are free to manipulate what you like...
I wont be surprised as thats what you lot are...

 

[Meesna]

Denial of Prophet Muhammad being tyhe Last Prophet

This is what your own Maulana Qasim Nanutwi founder of Darulaoom Deoband, no less, thinks;

Deobandi meaning of Khatam-e-Nabuwat (EXCLUSIVE) - YouTube

Better declare Qasim Nanutwi a kafir and shun him and his Darulaloom Deoband pronto. All Deobandis who still consider their founder a Muslim are big time hypocrites and kafir themselves.

 

[Safriz]

This video has been discussed many times,the book is fake and edited,No date of Publishing in the book and the commentor is manipulating two lines he noted as per Qadiani Fakery.
The comments dont end on the select two lines he reads..it goes on to explain the Verse of Holy Quran in question...But by selectively reading just two lines and then giving his own commentary,this guy is doing waht Qadianis do..Manipulation and fakery.

The original book from maulans nanotvi has different wordings..
His way of writing was that he questioned himself and then answered himself.
The two lines which the video guy reads is nanotvi questioning himself...but after this there is a very long answer which this video guy doesnt read as its not included in this Qadiani propoganda book..

Here is a very long explaination of Nanutvi's comments..