Six soldiers martyred in gun battle with terrorists in South Waziristan: ISPR

[NooriNuth]

....or pakistan needs to go over it with a fine tooth comb and end anyone who supports, and is involved in militancy. as well bombing their hideouts in afghanistan.

These "Akhpal Margaray" zamunga pukhtaan, fight for each other, based on tribe and ethnicity. To hell with Islam and the fact that the rest of us are also Muslims.
They will call it "Jihad" when fighting for another Pushtoon.
If we bomb Afghanistan, the so called Pakistani tribal pushtoon will rise against the very country where the do jobs and businesses. They are messed up to the core.

 

[ziaulislam]

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I have stopped believing in this supreme sacrifice concept specially when it reeks unprofessionalism to its core. This isn't the first time soldiers have been killed nor will be the last. Yet neither the dynamics have changed nor tactics and neither there is a will to do so. A servicing member once said to me it's easy to support a family of the soldier killed then providing them with the right equipment. This is the thinking prevailing. On top the top brass isn't even interested. Their interests are developing DHAs, manipulating, making and breaking governments.
Such people don't get to hide their gross incompetence and failures behind religion or martyr.

Honestly if they don't bring in brownies points then the high command will care

For now they think it's necessary..more people dead more they can stick to power

 

[hussain0216]

These "Akhpal Margaray" zamunga pukhtaan, fight for each other, based on tribe and ethnicity. To hell with Islam and the fact that the rest of us are also Muslims.
They will call it "Jihad" when fighting for another Pushtoon.
If we bomb Afghanistan, the so called Pakistani tribal pushtoon will rise against the very country where the do jobs and businesses. They are messed up to the core.

It's a ETHNIC issue

It's a ABSOLUTE LIE that this is a religious issue, or they are religious extremists

They may or maybe not be but it's purely coincidental



It's a ethnocentric issue that must be dealt with, you can disagree, you can argue for a different path, why you can't do is cause endless fassad and deshatgardi



The PROBLEM isnt the bad guys (this is important)

If it were just a issue of a isolated TTP, this problem would have been finished years ago


The problem is the LOCALS and neck deep in this shit

And it's not always the open support or sheltering that's the problem
Whilst that of course is indeed a problem


It's the 50-50, pretending to be a decent human, whilst underneath supporting bombings
It's turning a blind eye to locals doing criminal acts or terrorism
And then screaming if the same locals are picked up
And so on and on and on




Enforced disappearances may not be the greatest thing, Pakistan has to bring down the hammer hard

Balochistan has suddenly gone quite, apart from the TTP areas, it's because they military has finally said enough is enough and is now beginning to pick up and eradicate people who are part of the 50-50 ie support terrorism on one hand and scream about security responses on the other hand


ITS THE RIGHT DECISION
the welfare of 230 million people cannot be put at risk because of human rights bullshit

Torture, slaughter and eradicate

The same has to happen now the the TTP supporters
Put a big target on the Afghan refugees
Start picking up the PTM 50-50 group, use the laws in place to prosecute

 

[Mig hunter]

I wish higher command would have been more focused on their actual job but alsa...

 

[Clutch]

ITS THE RIGHT DECISION
the welfare of 230 million people cannot be put at risk because of human rights bullshit

Lol... You seem to live in a world of illusions and delusions.

Pakistan army fights for the interest of the Generals and the Americans.... Where do the 230 million Pakistanis come into the equation???...

 

[hussain0216]

Lol... You seem to live in a world of illusions and delusions.

Pakistan army fights for the interest of the Generals and the Americans.... Where do the 230 million Pakistanis come into the equation???...

Bomb blasts, deshatgardi, ethno-stupidity cannot be tolerated

 

[Clutch]

Bomb blasts, deshatgardi, ethno-stupidity cannot be tolerated

Sure... But do not forget Pakistan is a failed state. Its like Somalians screaming this or that cannot be tolerated... Who cares... Failed state.

 

[hussain0216]

Sure... But do not forget Pakistan is a failed state. Its like Somalians screaming this or that cannot be tolerated... Who cares... Failed state.

Yeah but we have a mountain of options and some of those options including tearing our enemies a new asshole,

Pakistan has been VERY VERY EASY on the afghans, the common regional connection, the religious connection etc


If Afghans were Hindus WE WOULD HAVE SHREDDED THEM INTO TINY PIECES BY NOW


we are still going very very easy on the Afghans and Afghan refugees, underneath it all they understand not everyone is guilty, but enough pussy footing around

 

[Kingdom come]

RIP

 

[Mugen]

Bomb blasts, deshatgardi, ethno-stupidity cannot be tolerated

Maybe if people's basic needs were met, and education was a priority this wouldn't be happening. But it is the generals who are actively robbing us of these, the blame lies with them for all the failures since they have all the power.

 

[hussain0216]

Maybe if people's basic needs were met, and education was a priority this wouldn't be happening. But it is the generals who are actively robbing us of these, the blame lies with them for all the failures since they have all the power.

No

That's incredibly stupid

People are poor and deprived across the world,, how many of them become suicide bombers, kill polio teams or create endless fassad

 

[muz20152]

How the **** the faujeets generals train these troops i kept thinking for years maybe because the troops were using naked pickup trucks (some of the cause of death is because of that) but even on foot or in established outposts so many troops die wtf do they smoke weed and learn how to get plots during training.
This is a far cry from western militraries fighting isurgents only if they are in the literal thousands do western armies lose dozens maybe hunderds of troops
My conclusion is 75% of the course is how to do corruption/humiliate harmless civilians
5% is making dha plots
20% is how to fight both coventional and insurgent forces.

OR
they use third rate troops while the well trained ones are for the protection of the generals their DHA and their families.

 

[Jango]

No

That's incredibly stupid

People are poor and deprived across the world,, how many of them become suicide bombers, kill polio teams or create endless fassad

It might not be the sole reason, but it is a major reason.

Madrassas in Pakistan, almost all of them, the ones in Karachi, the ones in AJK (yes, it is a breeding ground for jihadis), the ones in KP, all prey on children from poor families, where their parents are unable to provide for these children and give them away to the madrassas.

Then the indoctrination happens.

If the state provides education opportunities, and means of sustenance for families through jobs etc, they wouldn't be forced to send their children to madrassas.

I was reading an interview of a Baloch terrorist, and he mentioned that there are no job opportunities, so we do this. Heck, just listen to the interview of the Baloch terrosit, Shambay or whatever his name is.

Not saying all madrassas are terror havens, but a good number of them are. But almost all madrassas care for children from underpriveleged backgrounds.

In Western countries if you look at the criminals, most of them are those from similar backgrounds, who have been in and out of the juvenile system since childhood.

Same concept.

 

[muz20152]

It's a ETHNIC issue

It's a ABSOLUTE LIE that this is a religious issue, or they are religious extremists

They may or maybe not be but it's purely coincidental



It's a ethnocentric issue that must be dealt with, you can disagree, you can argue for a different path, why you can't do is cause endless fassad and deshatgardi



The PROBLEM isnt the bad guys (this is important)

If it were just a issue of a isolated TTP, this problem would have been finished years ago


The problem is the LOCALS and neck deep in this shit

And it's not always the open support or sheltering that's the problem
Whilst that of course is indeed a problem


It's the 50-50, pretending to be a decent human, whilst underneath supporting bombings
It's turning a blind eye to locals doing criminal acts or terrorism
And then screaming if the same locals are picked up
And so on and on and on




Enforced disappearances may not be the greatest thing, Pakistan has to bring down the hammer hard

Balochistan has suddenly gone quite, apart from the TTP areas, it's because they military has finally said enough is enough and is now beginning to pick up and eradicate people who are part of the 50-50 ie support terrorism on one hand and scream about security responses on the other hand


ITS THE RIGHT DECISION
the welfare of 230 million people cannot be put at risk because of human rights bullshit

Torture, slaughter and eradicate

The same has to happen now the the TTP supporters
Put a big target on the Afghan refugees
Start picking up the PTM 50-50 group, use the laws in place to prosecute

If you are ranting about the ethnic issues yes they are present but your solution is what enforced disappernces wow that just gives more free recurits to the other side
KEEP IN MIND THESE TRIBAL AREAS WERE FOR DECADES UNDER THE FRONTIER CRIMES REGULATIONS INJUSTICE FROM THESE BRITISH ERA LAWS DOES NOT DISAPPER OVERNIGHT
also TTP is lumber 1 own creation as many hard cores mullah lovers number 1 idol zia ul haq quote on quote launched hard core extremist mullahs in these area
even after all that carnage lumber 1 still did not learn their lesson they launched TLP aka aashiq aane rasool gang who just straight up attack anyone who do not agree with them yes the the other side has loads of problems but they are far lesser compared to the ocean of problem and disasters faujeet bring to the local civilians so clean yourself first before pointing fingers at others.

 

[hussain0216]

It might not be the sole reason, but it is a major reason.

Madrassas in Pakistan, almost all of them, the ones in Karachi, the ones in AJK (yes, it is a breeding ground for jihadis), the ones in KP, all prey on children from poor families, where their parents are unable to provide for these children and give them away to the madrassas.

Then the indoctrination happens.

If the state provides education opportunities, and means of sustenance for families through jobs etc, they wouldn't be forced to send their children to madrassas.

I was reading an interview of a Baloch terrorist, and he mentioned that there are no job opportunities, so we do this. Heck, just listen to the interview of the Baloch terrosit, Shambay or whatever his name is.

Not saying all madrassas are terror havens, but a good number of them are. But almost all madrassas care for children from underpriveleged backgrounds.

In Western countries if you look at the criminals, most of them are those from similar backgrounds, who have been in and out of the juvenile system since childhood.

Same concept.

Unless your saying these people are beghairat by nature,, then your deluding yourself

Across the freaking world people face poverty, often worse then these people are facing

Yet those people, even from Muslim countries and people are not as harami, beghairat, fassadi as these backwards trash from our tribal areas in KP and Balochistan's


How do you develop anything amongst these idiots
Who the hell would invest anything around them
You send poor medical staff to administer polio medicine to help them and they murder them
You start schools and they murder Punjabi women teachers
Fassad over any little thing

These people are DUNGAR

If they want to act like animals, let them act like animals, but the state cannot tolerate fassad and deshatgardi from these jahils forever

Hundreds of millions of people at risk and we can't let these donkeys create fassad endlessly



So help the people that want to be helped, set up schools and support systems, and eradicate the one's causing endless fassad

Torture camps, pick up and dumps, get the Afghan refugees out
Make sure that without I.D cars they can eat, drink or take a shit in the country