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Silicon Valley Stands With Muslim Teen Ahmed Mohamad

Regarding the topic, the question that people here have been trying to ask, "Is it a case if racial profiling?"
The answer is yes and there is nothing one can do about it.
A 15 year old kid, with a metalled box in his hands, that ticks and alarms go off from that, and in top of that he is a Muslim youth.
All the reasons for people to panick and for the police to take it up seriously. We don't live in a utopian state and Muslim suicide bombers are indeed a reality these days, does not matter how much the likes of @RiazHaq try to flash their gift victim card.
Only that it was most likely not a case of racial profiling. The police was just doing their job (regardless of how many times @Akheilos reports my posts here).
Good, the kid is free. Hope he won't be repeating science stuff in Humanities courses in college.
 
When an american teen goes out and shoots at the public,innocet civilians then shortly after the arrest he is moved to a psychiatric facility and declared a 'looney', a lone soul.

A mooslem makes a clock and dangggggggg he gets arrested for making a time bomb.

@fakhre mirpur
 
Well whatever comes in media gets attention what doesnt gets support to come into media...

Now you are picking indian cases coz you can empathize yet you question why we empathize with a Muslim child who has a bright future?

I do not know that case....

You are picking an individual case of an indian coz you can relate with MANY cases of Muslims being treated different coz of some phobia!

You are also missing the point this child has a future and we aree only calling a wrong a wrong...the same Americans who call us to be civil and talk to us about human rights cant seem to employ a drop of such preaching on themselves!

Even your own media didnt pick it?! Then how can you question other people's sympathy?


wow! Words of a jealous blind patriot I guess!

What did you invent at the age of 14? :pop:


Yea the world which has progressed ahead of you are all made up of fools only you the blind supporter are the genius as compared to people who can call a spade a spade :agree:
Well whatever comes in media gets attention what doesnt gets support to come into media...

Now you are picking indian cases coz you can empathize yet you question why we empathize with a Muslim child who has a bright future?

I do not know that case....

You are picking an individual case of an indian coz you can relate with MANY cases of Muslims being treated different coz of some phobia!

You are also missing the point this child has a future and we aree only calling a wrong a wrong...the same Americans who call us to be civil and talk to us about human rights cant seem to employ a drop of such preaching on themselves!

Even your own media didnt pick it?! Then how can you question other people's sympathy?


wow! Words of a jealous blind patriot I guess!

What did you invent at the age of 14? :pop:


Yea the world which has progressed ahead of you are all made up of fools only you the blind supporter are the genius as compared to people who can call a spade a spade :agree:

This kid has a future and the Sikhs in US don't ?
What's with this Muslim card ? You are now more Sudanese than the actual Sudanese too ? Theka leke rakhha hai ?
 
and the Sikhs in US don't ?
dont put your sour words in my mouth! Even your own papers didnt report it and you are demanding sympathy? Get off your high horse!

What's with this Muslim card ? You are now more Sudanese than the actual Sudanese too ? Theka leke rakhha hai ?
I never said that! My words are on the thread and crisp clear...read them again!

2 days under custody only released after the people demanded the police to use the brain!

You wont understand what a brown person says so lets here it from the white:
Zero-tolerance policies may have been another factor in Irving case, experts say
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Published: 16 September 2015 10:46 PM
Updated: 17 September 2015 07:40 AM


Along with concerns about anti-Muslim sentiments, some say the arrest and suspension of a 14-year-old Irving boy who took his invention to school amounts to zero-tolerance policies run amok.

Since 1995, Texas — as well as much of the country — has taken a tough-on-crime, zero-tolerance approach to discipline. So how much discretion do local school officials have in dealing with such a situation?

Plenty, say those who follow juvenile justice issues in Texas.

Zero-tolerance has cornered our thinking so much that it prevents us from seeing the reality around us. I call it zero-intelligence,” said Michael Gilbert, a UT-San Antonio associate professor who researches discipline in schools.

In recent years, the Legislature has dialed back the volume on zero-tolerance, passing new laws that allow districts to consider individual circumstances. Texas’ tough stance had previously required districts to automatically expel students for certain offenses, such as bringing items deemed weapons to school.

Just this year, lawmakers gave districts leeway to consider intent for situations involving weapons before expelling a student.

However, when it comes to defining what exactly is a possible weapon — or look-alike — determining when police should be called and suspending a student, that’s a local decision driven by district policies and training, experts say.

Though ninth-grader Ahmed Mohamed claimed to have a clock, not a weapon, a teacher at Irving ISD alerted authorities Monday about the device and the student was placed in handcuffs.

Irving ISD had plenty of room for discretion in how they handled this,” said Terri Burke, executive director of the ACLU of Texas.

On Wednesday, authorities said Ahmed would not face any charges.

Irving school officials aren’t saying much regarding why they reacted they way they did, citing federal privacy laws. District spokeswoman Lesley Weaver spoke briefly at a news conference on Wednesday saying that information “made public to this point has been very unbalanced.”

“We were doing everything with an abundance of caution to protect all of our students in Irving,” she said.

The school district’s code of conduct prohibits students from taking a “look-alike” weapon to school, which can lead to suspension, placement in alternative educational settings or expulsion. But determining exactly what that constitutes is subjective.

Teachers often get general guidance on school safety before stepping into the classroom, said Stephanie Jacksis, spokeswoman for the Association of Texas Professional Educators. That training varies district to district and even by campus, she said.

They are often told that if anything suspicious happens, “they are to immediately contact administration who will likely immediately contact the police department after that unless they have a school marshal on campus who is trained on what to do when a student brings something that is perceived to be a weapon to school.”

In light of school shootings and other deadly events in public venues, Jacksis said an educator is more likely to be overly cautious in reporting something questionable.

“A lot of times teachers would rather be safe than sorry,” Jacksis said. “So sometimes they do report things that may not be as harmful as they believe it could have been. It just comes down to keeping the kids safe, especially with all the things that have happened in recent years.”

But what happens after such an incident is reported can vary greatly.

So more district-level training needs to be done to de-escalate situations before children are dragged away in handcuffs, said Morgan Craven, director of the School-to-Prison Pipeline Project at the juvenile justice advocacy group Texas Appleseed.

Craven hopes another new law will help with that as it requires districts with at least 30,000 students — which includes Irving — to adopt a policy in how they train officers who will be working in schools. She and others hope it will help police and school officials to better handle situations before they get out of hand.

Still, Ahmed’s case shows much more work needs to be done to curb overreactions, Craven said.

“Zero-tolerance is an ineffective approach to school discipline,” Craven said.And our research has shown us for so long that children of color like Ahmed are negatively impacted by school discipline at much higher rates.”

Gilbert, who is also executive director of the National Association of Community and Restorative Justice, said school officials have to be concerned about safety but not to the extent that it hurts students. For example, he’s come across a case where an elementary student was punished for turning in an unloaded gun found on a playground.

We end up disciplining kids instead of talking to them about how to make better decisions,” Gilbert said. “The problem is not the kids. It’s us — adults.



Zero-tolerance policies may have been another factor in Irving case, experts say | Dallas Morning News

Source: Muslim student arrested in US after home-built clock mistaken for bomb | Page 8
 
dont put your sour words in my mouth! Even your own papers didnt report it and you are demanding sympathy? Get off your high horse!
Sure about that ?

Elderly Sikh-American Brutally Assaulted in US, Called 'Bin Laden'

That's NDTV reporting. NDTV stands for New Delhi Television Ltd.
I never said that! My words are on the thread and crisp clear...read them again!
Crisp and clear.. There you go...
we empathize with a Muslim child who has a bright future?

you can relate with MANY cases of Muslims being treated different coz of some phobia

So, what is it actually ? Your empathy comes with a bounding criteria of Muslims only ? I don't have to put words in your mouth, you just said that.
 
So, what is it actually ? Your empathy comes with a bounding criteria for Muslims ? I don't have to put words in your mouth, you just said that.
:rofl: lovely why didnt you quote the context?

I replied with the article above your post coz I knew you wont be able to read in context even highlighted the context:

And our research has shown us for so long that children of color like Ahmed are negatively impacted by school discipline at much higher rates.”

And specifically MUSLIMS as per statistics

Now how you manage to twist and quote out of context is on you....It is typical of PDF indian to do such a thing

BTW, Reported for derailing ....thread isnt about sikh ...you are welcome to open a thread about him
 
then took it to the English class and set up a timer to go off in the middle of it,

To blow up a bomb of course...duh!

The evil Muslim boy...always blowing stuff up.

So next time my Casio watch beeps at the top of the hand, I should be arrested ASAP since I am emitting a beeping noise which no one can immediately source. WOW!
 
:rofl: lovely why didnt you quote the context?

I replied with the article above your post coz I knew you wont be able to read in context even highlighted the context:



And specifically MUSLIMS as per statistics

Now how you manage to twist and quote out of context is on you....It is typical of PDF indian to do such a thing

BTW, Reported for derailing ....thread isnt about sikh ...you are welcome to open a thread about him
Oh no, this is very much on topic. You dont know the basics of debate. Debate by example is a very common instrument.
 
There can be a lot of other things to empathize about. Some days back, an Indian origin Sikh was attacked in US, motivated by vengeance and unlike this case the old man went to jail. Where was your empathy then ? Or it comes for a cost too ?
@Akheilos

Ofcourse it pains me.

What about the Indian grandfather in Texas who got body slammed and paralyzed? Terrible stuff, lakh lanat on US cops.
 
:rofl: lovely why didnt you quote the context?

I replied with the article above your post coz I knew you wont be able to read in context even highlighted the context:

And specifically MUSLIMS as per statistics
And there goes the careful mixing of the half-truth part. For the same reasons, a Sikh will be equally affected. But, no, that does not concern you. It's the Muslim case that concerns you. Tell you what, basically you are accusing the case to be religiously biased. What makes you think you are any better ? You are doing the same thing.
 
And there goes the careful mixing of the half-truth part. For the same reasons, a Sikh will be equally affected. But, no, that does not concern you. It's the Muslim case that concerns you. Tell you what, basically you are accusing the case to be religiously biased. What makes you think you are any better ? You are doing the same thing.
ANDDDDDD....here comes the paranoia!

Get well soon!
 
Oh no, this is very much on topic. You dont know the basics of debate. Debate by example is a very common instrument.
Debating on what my sympathy level? Sorry that isnt what the thread is about now is it? :pop:

Resorted to rhetoric already ? We all know what that means.
Well then explain how you concluded what you did? How can you accuse me of a thinking I never did!
How cheap is that? Did I say that I was only concerned about him coz he was Muslims? I presented that yes COLOURED PEOPLE (including your Sikh) do get targeted HOWEVER my article was about CHILDREN as that is what the research was about! Now if you can jump conclusions that is really paranoia unless you have a new name for diagnosing it!
It's the Muslim case that concerns you.
, basically you are accusing the case to be religiously biased. What makes you think you are any better ? You are doing the same thing.
 
Well then explain how you concluded what you did? How can you accuse me of a thinking I never did!
How cheap is that? Did I say that I was only concerned about him coz he was Muslims? I presented that yes COLOURED PEOPLE (including your Sikh) do get targeted HOWEVER my article was about CHILDREN as that is what the research was about! Now if you can jump conclusions that is really paranoia unless you have a new name for diagnosing it!

No, that's not what you said. Now it becomes including Sikh ? Didn't you say Muslims specifically ?
And specifically MUSLIMS as per statistics

we empathize with a Muslim child who has a bright future?

you can relate with MANY cases of Muslims being treated different coz of some phobia!
 
No, that's not what you said. Now it becomes including Sikh ? Didn't you said Muslims specifically ?
After I said what i said which is there....I clarified it with an article (post 34) coz I knew you would pull it against me! Now if you cant add 2 and 2, how is it my fault? I even HIGHLIGHTED 1 bit:

And our research has shown us for so long that children of color like Ahmed are negatively impacted by school discipline at much higher rates.

Since the case is of a Muslim I expect to stick to topic...if you want to open a thread about a Sikh be happy to do so and tag me in!
 
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