Silicon Valley Stands With Muslim Teen Ahmed Mohamad

[nForce]

You people and dignity? A country where hate breeds against her minorities and murders happen in masses.....you have dignity? Killing innocent families from your minorities Christians, Muslims, etc,.....still leaves some "dignity" in you?

The Taliban's have a history and their existence is primarily because of lack of education and whatever the crap someone taught them about religion. I can understand how these fukkups were born due to lack of proper education. But in a country that has millions of top IT "smart guys", doctors, engineers, millions of educated people.....you people are killing over years millions of your minorities???? I can understand talibans are religious screw ups but you guys with ONE Hindu nation crap and Vedic times, trying to make One Hindu India, forcing and killing minorities.......WHILE having so much education, apparently smartness and all???

Well, even then, it sounds the same. So the result is, religious nut jobs exist everywhere. Whether its the mountainous regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan or the Modern cities in India, Ban-galor, Mumbai, etc, there, the same religious terrorism mentality exist from Hinduism this time. Who want to kill Christians and Muslims!!! So the roles and religions change, not the terrorism acts!!! So may be, this entire Indo-Pak-Afghanistan region has genetic issues with hate, race, religion and terrorism? It sure feels like it!

Dignity is a relative word. When did anyone ask you for that ?

 

[vsdoc]

Is that what happens in India? Smart kids turn out to be "something else" later in life? Like Hindu fanatics killing minorities? That's what you insinuated here so how does it feel?

You couldn't hide your hate even on a 14 year old kid who happens to be a Muslim kids? I've seen white and black kids doing much worst in schools than using a simple clock. This kid likes to play mechanical engineering at the age of 14. The reaction was too much and the kid was stupid too.

However I am glad that its over and Googles and other companies who are into robotics are inviting him. His future is set. He should thank Irving Police Department at the least. This issue is closed. Lets move on!

You and me do not live in a perfect world.

I teach my kids (even the really young ones) what to do and what not to do. What they can say in public places like in restaurants, and what they cannot. Even if they do so at home within the family. And why.

Maybe this kid's parents should have done the same.

This entitlement and victim syndrome could have its perks in one off cases like this. But the pushback (when it comes, because come it will) cuts a much larger swathe. And oftentimes not selectively.

Hope you understand.

Cheers, Doc

 

[VCheng]

Btw, there was nothing beeping in the class. Maybe you did not read the story carefully. Ahmed took this to the teacher and showed her how he had built a clock. It wasn't as if the apparatus was discovered accidently while it was beeping.

Wrong, Sir. He showed it to the science teacher first, and it was fine. He then set the alarm to go off in English class, and that is where the problem started. That teacher was obligated to report it to the administration. You should read the entire report yourself.

 

[punit]

Take a count of how many Pakistanis have been killed by the Talibans and then take a count of how many millions Hindu terrorists have killed from their minorities in the past twenty years. And HUMOR me with that count!!!!! The world turns a blind eye from Hindu terrorism doesn't mean its not there. Take a count and humor us, let's debate!!!!

A Hindu kid being brain washed at the age of 4 by forced to learn the "Vedic times 6000 years ago" would turn out to be just as bad of a terrorist as anyone else's kid. This estimate is backed up my massive killings inside India by Hindu terrorists (take Modi's supported murders as one example). Like I said, take a count and tell us the murders sponsored by Hindus inside India of their minorities vs. people killed in Pakistan and India. Both of you have terrorist and extremist elements!!! No lie no bullshiit!

its not millions but billions !

 

[RiazHaq]

Harassment, punishment in school doesn't end with Ahmed #IStandWithAhmed by @mathewrodriguez #Islamophobia Meet the Muslim Students Who Have Been Harassed at School for Less Than a Clock - Mic …


"In middle school, I was physically grabbed by a security guard and dragged across the lunch room," Talia, a 20-year-old Muslim college student from Queens, New York, told Mic. Not knowing which door to use, Talia (who did not disclose her last name because of her undocumented status) entered her middle school cafeteria through the wrong door for the second time. "He just grabbed me, dragged me across the lunchroom and took me to the other side. Nobody said anything," she said.

Talia never reported the incident, to avoid interaction with authorities. "You're supposed to do what authority tells you to do and as an undocumented person, I've always been taught to stay safe, put your head down, go to school and don't push back or anything," she said.

Talia is not alone. According to a 2006 report from Desis Rising Up and Moving, 26% of South Asian students are afraid to give any kind of personal information to authorities and among South Asian non-U.S. citizens, the number is 34%. The report, "Education Not Deportation," details South Asian students' experiences in New York City schools.

Talia is a youth leader at DRUM, a community-based organization that organizes working-class South Asian adults and youth around issues of racial and educational justice in Jackson Heights, a neighborhood in Queens.

Rishi Singh, educational justice organizer at DRUM, told Mic that Talia's stories reflect an increasing tension in New York City's public schools — and nationwide — since the adoption of controversial zero-tolerance policies.

"I think all students, particularly students of color, they don't feel like their school is a school, they feel like it's a jail," he told Mic. "They feel they've done something wrong every time they go through scanning in the morning."

Many New York City school students, including the Muslim students who spoke to Mic, must pass through a metal detector every day, which the New York Civil Liberties Union called "a potential flashpoint of confrontation between [school safety officers] and students," in a 2013 report on the school-to-prison pipeline.

"Every time I would walk through, I would get wanded," Talia said. Over time, she knew to point out to security guards where the metal pins were under her hijab, though that wasn't always sufficient. She was once asked to go to the bathroom to have her hijab inspected. The only female police officer available to search her was a sergeant carrying a gun.

"I was like, 'I'm not taking off my hijab, I'm not doing it,'" she said. They ended up giving her a rougher-than-usual inspection. "They were feeling my hijab, grabbing my hijab and my hair. I refused to go to the bathroom with the sergeant."

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DRUM's 2006 report found that 85% of South Asian students surveyed reported harassment by school or police authorities. Thirty-one percent said their harassment was due to actual or perceived race or ethnicity, while 29% felt it was due to actual or perceived religion and 17% felt the harassment was because of their immigration status.

For Singh and other DRUM leaders, this means that school's approach to justice must be reframed as restorative, rather than punitive, meaning infractions would not pile up and push students out of school. Singh hopes that schools can embrace a model where parties involved in confrontation can confront each other to find common ground.

 

[Shamain]

What iwant to know is that if the student was a non muslim and had taken the clock to the teacher would he also have been subjected to same treatment and suspicion?

 

[Viper0011.]

What iwant to know is that if the student was a non muslim and had taken the clock to the teacher would he also have been subjected to same treatment and suspicion?

Yes and absolutely. If you have a briefcase and a clock, the way I've seen it on this thread, then HELL yes (someone posted pictures on here, I assume those were taken from the US media). Similarly, if you go through an airport's security and other places, they are trained to deal with the situation and suspicious actions and people. That includes whites too0.

I am sure, having a name like Muhammed and all, does add some racial / ethnic element to it as our "conservative" media highlights Muslims as a problem and the lower-education / illiterate American population thinks that's true permanently, just like they think the POTUS is a Muslim and has fake or no American citizenship (someone asked Donald Trump yesterday that Obama was a muslim and an Arab ). So obviously a police officer coming from this kind of background or what not, would have some element of hate to it. And that's true in Pakistan or India or China unfortunately. When people think us vs. them, this stuff happens no matter what race, religion or nation you may be.

But to say that a Christian kid would've gotten away with it and a Muslim guy got in trouble, that's pretty stupid. The law enforcement agencies, once involved, deal with every issue with their protocols. They don't make up their own protocols because one kid was Muslim vs. the other being a Christian. There have been plenty of violence conducted by whites and blacks like the recent school shootings and church shootings and all. So the law enforcement guys follow their process and the training.

 

[Shamain]

If tht clock was taken for a bomb then this cuckoo clock wherr a cuckoo goes coooockooooo every hour would be no less than a nooclear bomb

@fakhre mirpur

 

[Arya Desa]

Once police were called, it was enough probable cause to arrest anyone who had done something like that. Once the investigation was complete, he was let go. The Police did everything correctly from a legal standpoint.

Quick, this metal case is beeping loudly in English Class. What do you expect the teacher to do with your kid in the class too?

Police did the right thing. That honestly looks like a bomb.

 

[Zibago]

Harassment, punishment in school doesn't end with Ahmed #IStandWithAhmed by @mathewrodriguez #Islamophobia Meet the Muslim Students Who Have Been Harassed at School for Less Than a Clock - Mic …


"In middle school, I was physically grabbed by a security guard and dragged across the lunch room," Talia, a 20-year-old Muslim college student from Queens, New York, told Mic. Not knowing which door to use, Talia (who did not disclose her last name because of her undocumented status) entered her middle school cafeteria through the wrong door for the second time. "He just grabbed me, dragged me across the lunchroom and took me to the other side. Nobody said anything," she said.

Talia never reported the incident, to avoid interaction with authorities. "You're supposed to do what authority tells you to do and as an undocumented person, I've always been taught to stay safe, put your head down, go to school and don't push back or anything," she said.

Talia is not alone. According to a 2006 report from Desis Rising Up and Moving, 26% of South Asian students are afraid to give any kind of personal information to authorities and among South Asian non-U.S. citizens, the number is 34%. The report, "Education Not Deportation," details South Asian students' experiences in New York City schools.

Talia is a youth leader at DRUM, a community-based organization that organizes working-class South Asian adults and youth around issues of racial and educational justice in Jackson Heights, a neighborhood in Queens.

Rishi Singh, educational justice organizer at DRUM, told Mic that Talia's stories reflect an increasing tension in New York City's public schools — and nationwide — since the adoption of controversial zero-tolerance policies.

"I think all students, particularly students of color, they don't feel like their school is a school, they feel like it's a jail," he told Mic. "They feel they've done something wrong every time they go through scanning in the morning."

Many New York City school students, including the Muslim students who spoke to Mic, must pass through a metal detector every day, which the New York Civil Liberties Union called "a potential flashpoint of confrontation between [school safety officers] and students," in a 2013 report on the school-to-prison pipeline.

"Every time I would walk through, I would get wanded," Talia said. Over time, she knew to point out to security guards where the metal pins were under her hijab, though that wasn't always sufficient. She was once asked to go to the bathroom to have her hijab inspected. The only female police officer available to search her was a sergeant carrying a gun.

"I was like, 'I'm not taking off my hijab, I'm not doing it,'" she said. They ended up giving her a rougher-than-usual inspection. "They were feeling my hijab, grabbing my hijab and my hair. I refused to go to the bathroom with the sergeant."

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DRUM's 2006 report found that 85% of South Asian students surveyed reported harassment by school or police authorities. Thirty-one percent said their harassment was due to actual or perceived race or ethnicity, while 29% felt it was due to actual or perceived religion and 17% felt the harassment was because of their immigration status.

For Singh and other DRUM leaders, this means that school's approach to justice must be reframed as restorative, rather than punitive, meaning infractions would not pile up and push students out of school. Singh hopes that schools can embrace a model where parties involved in confrontation can confront each other to find common ground.

CAIR apologist

 

[navtrek]

He showed it to his science teacher first, which was okay, then took it to the English class and set up a timer to go off in the middle of it, which was not okay. Why do you suppose he did that, and what were the teachers supposed to do with his actions?

Source: Muslim student arrested in US after home-built clock mistaken for bomb | Page 7

The timer went off accidentally. it was not on purpose.

 

[VCheng]

The timer went off accidentally. it was not on purpose.

Accidentally? He set it up to go off in the middle of English class to cause a disruption.

 

[Nefarious]

Bombs don't beep you fools, they go boom.

 

[RiazHaq]

If the teacher, the principal and the police really thought Ahmed's clock was a bomb, then why didn't they evacuate the school and call the bomb squad? Why did the police get close to the clock to take pictures? Wy did they transport the clock in the police car along with the arresting policemen and Ahmed?

The fact is that they really didn't think it was a bomb; they just wanted to use it as an excuse to humiliate the brown little kid to "put him in his place".

 

[VCheng]

If the teacher, the principal and the police really thought Ahmed's clock was a bomb, then why didn't they evacuate the school and call the bomb squad? Why did the police get close to the clock to take pictures? Wy did they transport the clock in the police car along with the arresting policemen and Ahmed?

The fact is that they really didn't think it was a bomb; they just wanted to use it as an excuse to humiliate the brown little kid to "put him in his place".

You really should read the school's statement and its written policies, Sir. Really.