Sikh man mistaken as Muslim abused, harassed at US store

[Articulate]

Perception takes time to change and it takes one bug to ruin it all. India was known (and still is occasionally) as a land of snake charmers in the West. That changed. Slowly.

You are incorrect.
A very large number of Western citizens today still think of India as a land of snake charmers.

 

[SMC]

It is the very definition of a "fuked up society". India has far less internal violence than Pakistan not just percentage wise but also in absolute numbers despite having 7 times the population.

Really? How many people are killed in India each year, and how many in Pakistan? Do you have any idea?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Honestly I don't think you can compare civil rights movement to this. I just don't see why muslims have to prove that they don't agree with the terrorists. Americans aren't explicitly asked to disown mass shooters, even though there are hundreds of them each year..

Life is not fair, man. You just gotta accept and find solutions.

There are Muslim protest marches for peace - I know. Even in India - saying that terrorism has no place and so on.
But then there are marches on the death of some SIMI, LeT or IM operative in the cities as well. That damages the positive reputation massively.

You are incorrect.
A very large number of Western citizens today still think of India as a land of snake charmers.

Okay. That is actually subjective, without a survey... difficult. But yeah, there must be many.

Perceptions take time to change. Especially negative ones.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Really? How many people are killed in India each year, and how many in Pakistan? Do you have any idea?

Terrorism fatalities in India are significantly lower

 

[Articulate]

Really? How many people are killed in India each year, and how many in Pakistan? Do you have any idea?

Yes.

India:
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/database/indiafatalities.htm

Pakistan
http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/Pakistan/database/casualties.htm

 

[Articulate]

Really? is that why they live on the fringes and are hunted down?

Unlike india we dont have terrorists winning elections or mass murderers becoming prime ministers or even religious parties ever coming into power even on provincial level!

Meanwhile we have indian ministers,law makers,parliamentarian advocating the rape of muslim dead bodies n boasting about how they slit the bellies of pregnant women and poked the babies and threw them into fire!

Neither we have such parties ruling the govt or any province,



Those lawyers were idiots..



Calm your tits and enlighten us when like india thousands were butchered over trial religious dogma or castes..

All you have done is given random posts. I can write about the Pakistani mobs lynching 9 year old christian girls for 'blasphemy' or little girls being shot in the head for daring to go to school to christian couples being burnt alive for 'blasphemy'.


You don't need to have religious parties elected because your normal Presiden't and Prime Ministers happily enact laws like Blasphemy law, hudood laws, laws against ahmadis (passport declarations) amongst others.

The stats say it all. Kindly go through the links I posted.

But the term used was "internal violence", which is a generic term. How many people get killed in India each year and how many in Pakistan? That is a better gauge for "internal violence".

My apology then. I meant terror related deaths. I don't have the 'standard' homicide stats of India.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

How many people get killed in India each year and how many in Pakistan?

Statistical fallacy. About 4.5x people are born in India as opposed to x in Pakistan every year. Population rations are 6:1

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

But the term used was "internal violence", which is a generic term. How many people get killed in India each year and how many in Pakistan? That is a better gauge for "internal violence".

That would be difficult to gauge, can't find a compiled list for that.

 

[SMC]

All you have done is given random posts. I can write about the Pakistani mobs lynching 9 year old christian girls for 'blasphemy' or little girls being shot in the head for daring to go to school to christian couples being burnt alive for 'blasphemy'.


You don't need to have religious parties elected because your normal Presiden't and Prime Ministers happily enact laws like Blasphemy law, hudood laws, laws against ahmadis (passport declarations) amongst others.

The stats say it all. Kindly go through the links I posted.

They are not really random posts though. It is true that the extremists in India are now part of the ruling establishment whereas the same can't be said about Pakistan. The mobs wanting to lynch 9 year olds or whatever are not the ruling establishment either. Don't get your point about enacting blasphemy laws, etc. Those laws have never actually been used to kill someone.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@Solomon2 The British categorized all the ethnic groups in their empire - The Raj. All the ethnic groups in Pak region as mentioned by @DESERT FIGHTER were classed as 'martial races' who either were fighting against them (Frontier) or were fighting for them - as soldiers in the army. Honour, valour and respect is big in Pak region.

Going around cleaning, washing the boss Englishman was left to 'lower races' mostly from Ganges region of India irrespective of religion - althougth Hindu untouchables were ideal candidates for such jobs.

Sikhs were also listed.

 

[SMC]

Statistical fallacy. About 4.5x people are born in India as opposed to x in Pakistan every year. Population rations are 6:1

There is no statistical fallacy. The post I replied to said that the absolute amount of internal violence in Pakistan (i.e. the absolute numbers) is higher than that in India. The poster has since clarified themself to only refer to terrorism related violence.

 

[Beast]

Welcome to Trumpland. Once Trump takesover Obama. It will only turn worst.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

These figures don't mean much by themselves but when referanced against the population of each group it tellsa us a lot. Few tiny populations groups from the north west (most of which is now Pak) supplied overwheliming number of soldiers to the British Raj.

Cleaning, washing the boss and pulling rickshaws was left to ..... well you know who !!!

 

[SMC]

That would be difficult to gauge, can't find a compiled list for that.

Here's what I found: http://thewire.in/17404/murders-and-not-terrorism-make-india-a-really-dangerous-country/
http://tribune.com.pk/story/694501/homicides-in-2012-pakistan-worst-in-south-asia/

Pakistan is likely lower now given that the Pakistan data is from 2012 and there were 3,000+ terrorism related deaths that year and only 590 so far this year. It does seem like though that you are far more likely to get killed by non-extremist violence in either India or Pakistan.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@DESERT FIGHTER I am not big fan of Jinnah but trust me we owe a lot to that guy. Just the fact that we got separated from over 200 million Hindu Dalit's is enough to salute that guy. Anyway leave you to give it to these guy's. Catch yeh later ...

And think again 200,000,000 Untouchables. Our existance would have been wiped out.