Should the US continue support to Israel?

[Dubious]

USA will do whatever serves its national interests the best.

@Hazzy997 ^^ is the proper answer no matter how much % of the population ends up on the streets....be it 80% even then USA would not budge....why?

1) national interest lies in exporting projects to Israel where joint ventures has led to discoveries...even if it means standing with them in a killing field...
2) could be ego for being proven wrong
3) As far as history is concerned no one looks at a mass murderer (be it for war or from the local regime) until he/ she/ it has finished its mission of a genocide eg. Khmer Rouge...

Even Vietnam was investigated some years down the road when damage was done and as a result a alot of Vietnamese were allowed into America same goes with Japanese for WW2 ..same goes with Bosnia or any African massacre (too many to name)..

However if you ask me should USA stop...yes it should cut down to show that it doesnt support inhumane BS and it should also cut down or stop as a warning to tame its pet! though I am not sure who is keeping whom as a pet ..

Yes or No and why?

shit I put the wrong vote...I wanted to do no me and voting doesnt get alon

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Its funny for a democratic country USA never asks the question to its people should it support Israel or not

The decision is always already made for people

Never seen a open debate

Never once we do have a debate where ordinary US citizen is asked
All these decisions are pre made , and never brought up for debate 5 bil-10 Billion in aid money goes with out question.

Yet there is never money for cities like Detroit or the Provinces like California who defaulted on their social security payments

 

[VCheng]

@Hazzy997 ^^ is the proper answer no matter how much % of the population ends up on the streets....be it 80% even then USA would not budge....why?

Why? Because it is only national interests that are enduring, and therefore there must be a relentless pursuit of them.

 

[Dubious]

Why? Because it is only national interests that are enduring, and therefore there must be a relentless pursuit of them.

Even if it means supporting mass murder? Then they wonder why something like Taliban (of equal caliber = mass murder) haunts them?

 

[VCheng]

Even if it means supporting mass murder? Then they wonder why something like Taliban (of equal caliber = mass murder) haunts them?

What mass murder? If you are referring to the recent fighting in Gaza, it clearly does not rise to that level.

 

[Dubious]

What mass murder? If you are referring to the recent fighting in Gaza, it clearly does not rise to that level.

So we are waiting for that level to come in then raise panic?

As my post read:

As far as history is concerned no one looks at a mass murderer (be it for war or from the local regime) until he/ she/ it has finished its mission of a genocide

 

[VCheng]

So we are waiting for that level to come in then raise panic?

Not at all. Both Hamas and Israel will need to sit down an negotiate a peace.

 

[Dubious]

Not at all. Both Hamas and Israel will need to sit down an negotiate a peace.

Yea...good luck with that happening....Dont even see the Israelis letting a middle person say UN in (wonder what they are afriad of...UN reports?) ....the same UN who is called for other issues in other countries....

Good luck to USA and its conscience!

 

[VCheng]

Yea...good luck with that happening....Dont even see the Israelis letting a middle person say UN in (wonder what they are afriad of...UN reports?) ....the same UN who is called for other issues in other countries....

Good luck to USA and its conscience!

UN gets called in only if both parties to a conflict agree to it. Hamas and Israel will need to sit down with a third party of choice acceptable to both sides, not just one. USA is usually the chosen third party, not the UN.

 

[Dubious]

UN gets called in only if both parties to a conflict agree to it. Hamas and Israel will need to sit down with a third party of choice acceptable to both sides, not just one. USA is usually the chosen third party, not the UN.

Yea and usually we get peace for about 1-2 yrs before Israel goes hey best bud we breaking the truce coz haath mein khujli hori hai

Or even better do something underground like cut drinking water for Palestinians and then wait for them to go beyond patience level when they start seeing their kids die!

 

[VCheng]

Yea and usually we get peace for about 1-2 yrs before Israel goes hey best bud we breaking the truce coz haath mein khujli hori hai
Or even better do something underground like cut drinking water for Palestinians and then wait for them to go beyond patience level when they start seeing their kids die!

How about laying water pipes underground rather than digging tunnels to fire rockets?

 

[Dubious]

How about laying water pipes underground rather than digging tunnels to fire rockets?

Well, how about opening the trade channels and allowing the Palestinians to fish as per the Hamas demands?

Whose gonna fund the pipes or where are they gonna get the water from Israel? Will they allow pipes when they are the ones who shut the water in the 1st place?

 

[VCheng]

Well, how about opening the trade channels and allowing the Palestinians to fish as per the Hamas demands?

Whose gonna fund the pipes or where are they gonna get the water from Israel? Will they allow pipes when they are the ones who shut the water in the 1st place?

A 100 million dollars spent on digging rocket tunnels would have paid for a lot of water pipes.

 

[Dubious]

A 100 million dollars spent on digging rocket tunnels would have paid for a lot of water pipes.

Is digging dirt that expensive? You believe such numbers?!

Where did 100m come from when their trade is stopped / controlled by Israel?

 

[474474]

And why is supporting Israel in the best interests of the USA?

Secularism is an image there, US has many extremist Christians who's give their lives for Israel - so interests don't stand a chance