Should Sharia be Established in Bangladesh?

[jetti]

So I got to eat it alive... Sorry i shall pass.

nope you can bring it from outside the country or you can cut its leg and eat when the cow is still alive.

 

[clmeta]

I'm talking about present not past. Schools are being blown up because they offer education to women. The ones blowing up are misguided people who believe its un islamic.
Many women have been rulers in South Asia including jhansi ki rani, razia sultan, begum of bhopal etc eetc.
And mind you, the Taliban who blow schools are also supposedly fighting for Shariah.

Reading Quran is mandatory for men and women. Women education was a taboo in South Asia including AF regardless of religion as far as I know. Rest of the world had no issue with that.

 

[TopCat]

Do you have the liberty of selling/eating pork ?

Nope.. Liberty is restricted in Islam.

 

[illusion8]

The constitution of the United States cannot be changed it can have amendments which add to it but the basic tenets cannot be changed and anytime the state or federal government tries to they are shot down by the supreme court.

Let me give you an example, many people say the US has a gun culture and the second amendment gave citizens the right to own guns. Now in the past the reason for this amendment was that if the government ever got out of line it was the job of the citizens to overthrow the government and if it came to violence the citizens would be able to fight back. Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers were influenced by John Locke greatly and they went by his reasoning when they put in this amendment. Now today people are running around with guns in the hundreds and use this amendment as their excuse to owning hundreds of guns they do not need which end up getting in the hands of some psycho who shoots up movie theaters. Now despite that and despite how many people die in the future because of these guns the feds and the states cannot remove this law no matter how much they may want to and even if they may be justified to do so.

But there still is a provision for having it changed - the reasons are still not that justifiable for a repeal - but people are slowly going against it - and one cannot guarantee it that it will not change in the future.

 

[clmeta]

Nice point brother. But why impose Shariah when Muslims are heavily divided on what it means? Didn't the Taliban belive they ruled AF acording to Shariah law?
And why impose Shariah law on minorities?

Yes we do worry but those people have more resources than us currently and we can only change that by bettering ourselves. My sisters are both college educated and I realize they would not be afforded that opportunity in said countries. However I am not a citizen of those said countries and it is up to the people who are to stand up for change.

 

[TopCat]

I'm talking about present not past. Schools are being blown up because they offer education to women. The ones blowing up are misguided people who believe its un islamic.
Many women have been rulers in South Asia including jhansi ki rani, razia sultan, begum of bhopal etc eetc.
And mind you, the Taliban who blow schools are also supposedly fighting for Shariah.

Talibans are bearing the legacy of middle age social structure of their country. Nothing to do with Islam. There 55 more Islamic country to look at..

 

[Azazel]

What do u accept from these Ignorant & arrogant idiots. They are the ones who troll all day and then say its us who starts trolling. Take this thread for eg. Pink loving shiv shena bombay dude started it with his self-satisfying ideas about SHARIA law. Islamophobia is their national psycho.

Its psyche.

 

[illusion8]

Yes we do worry but those people have more resources than us currently and we can only change that by bettering ourselves. My sisters are both college educated and I realize they would not be afforded that opportunity in said countries. However I am not a citizen of those said countries and it is up to the people who are to stand up for change.

Hence open for interpretation - my earlier argument was even if Sharia is implemented in Pak or BD it will be marginal and some rules may be picked up and some will be left out.

 

[TopCat]

Hence open for interpretation - my earlier argument was even if Sharia is implemented in Pak or BD it will be marginal and some rules may be picked up and some will be left out.

You are right. Even personal family laws are implemented based on sharia in PK/BD and India now.

 

[KingMamba]

But there still is a provision for having it changed - the reasons are still not that justifiable for a repeal - but people are slowly going against it - and one cannot guarantee it that it will not change in the future.

Yes one can guarantee it because it would unconstitutional and we have a system of checks and balances to make sure the executive powers and legislative stay in line. Listen even the supreme court may not agree with the second amendment but they would change it. The only way would be for there to be a application of military law but that is an extreme circumstance that most people would oppose if done for no reason. Also that would suspend all rights not just the second amendment so that would be a whole new extreme. The patriot act was a step in this direction for those who know the purpose of the law though.

 

[Luffy 500]

You know Muslims are heavily divided about whats written in Quran. Hence it makes no sense to explain it to Kaffirs like us. For eg, Muslims are divided whether suicide bombings are allowed or not, music is allowed or not, dargah is allowed or not, women should study /drive or not and man and woman should be kept separately or not etc etc.
And that's why different countries have different systems. And that's why there are so many sects etc.

No muslims are not devided of what is written in the QURAN. Whatever written in the QURAN is clear cut with no contradictions. Muslims mainly differ in some statements of the hadith which is very minute difference. 90% of the muslim world is what your guys call sunni. The rest 10% is shia who also believes in the QURAN but have differences regarding the 4 righteous chalips. Many ulemas call them heretics but their is difference of opinions there. Nonetheless they believe in the QURAN and the final messenger of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Suicide is haram, which is pretty clear in ISLAM.No room for contradictions exist here. But when is comes to suicide bombings for say in palestine, some scholars say that people are giving their life in war against an enemy of ISLAM, so its permissible.But there too opinions vary but in no way suicide is permissible for people getting frustrated with life.
But then again muslims do suicide bombings now, it was first started by your LTTE. I agree with the scholars who say suicide bombings is haram as there are other ways to fight a war other than bombing. Music from special instruments is haram, no contradiction involved. But there are certain instruments that are allowed.

As for dargah , U should know its a concept totally made up by morons in the Sub-continent and has no basis in ISLAM. Going to dargah is equivalent to shirk , an unforgivable sin U would see those who go to such dargas are not practicing muslims in their real life. U won't find any dargah in ME or malaysia. The stuff is totally an alien concept to ISLAM.

As for women driving , its a law in KSA. Women wearing proper hijab is permissible to drive.

Its psyche.

Thanks. Will edit it.

 

[KingMamba]

Nice point brother. But why impose Shariah when Muslims are heavily divided on what it means? Didn't the Taliban belive they ruled AF acording to Shariah law?
And why impose Shariah law on minorities?

Actually know the Taliban never claimed Shariah they were doing what was best for Afghanistan (in their minds). Listen we all know today that what they did was wrong but you have to look at the circumstances that they rose up in. Before the Taliban there was warlordism all over Afghanistan so when Mullah Omar took over he reunited 90% of Afghanistan and disarmed all the citizens in effect destroying warlordism. The only part that was left was the 10% owned by the Northern Alliance. Now this Northern Alliance today is viewed as the force that kept the evil Taliban at bay but what people do not know is that it was the Northern Alliance that called Osama Bin Laden to Afghanistan in the first place. What happened was the Taliban took over the area which OBL was hiding in and then OBL switched allegiances and assassinated Ahmad Shah Massoud to show his loyalty to the Taliban. So yeah in hindsight the Taliban ruled wrong but if they hadn't taken over AFg today there might not have been any Afghanistan and maybe 5 other states ruled over by the local warlord.

Listen watch this Western made documentary about the Taliban (everyone should watch this)

Inside The Taliban [National Geographic] - YouTube

Secondly minorities under Muslim rule would be judged by their own laws so a Hindu would be judged by Hindu scriptures, Christian by bible, etc. Also the tax that everybody says was evil was actually not. OK so minorities had to pay tax but that tax was so that they did not have to do military service which is mandatory to Muslims. Secondly this tax is also payed by Muslims although it is for a different reason (Zikat for the poor) so in reality everybody was paying the same tax.

 

[KingMamba]

ahmadis belive in 5 pillars.. mohammad added finality only after he was challenged by another so called prophet, thus proving that mohammad was only a warrior and not a prophet.

that means half the muslims in india are not muslims as they do shirk. ok. good..
my other question is if you are so readlity accepting ancient arab religion, whats wrong in accepting your own oroiginal hindu religion. iu suggest you convert to root. be pagan dont be pagal. may islam is the dark side , you never know.

What does khatam mean do you know??

 

[jetti]

What does khatam mean do you know??

gatam gatam.. have you seen the movie baba?

khatam means the end
khallas.. bachke tu rehna re bachke to rehna... ek dum khallas

 

[KingMamba]

gatam gatam.. have you seen the movie baba?

khatam means the end
khallas.. bachke tu rehna re bachke to rehna... ek dum khallas

No I haven't is it a good movie?

Secondly good because Ahmadis claim to follow the Quran but in the Quran it says Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is Khatham Nabuwwah which has the same meaning (the end of the Prophets / last Prophet) yet they have their own new prophet who by the way also claimed to be the avatar of Krishna (so if you are a Hindu you must be under the ahmadis, his words not mine). What I mean by this is he was not just opposed by Muslims he was also opposed by Hindus and Christians during his time (he also claimed to be the reincarnation of Jesus). Today people fall for their BS that they are mistreated yet they have their own TV channels in Pakistan, they have high government positions, high ranks in the Pak Military, and live in relative peace despite the occasional mullah trying to get them arrested which is then blown out of proportion.