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The whole country is corrupt and sinking ship ... Full of retarded monkeysThen you are going to moan the Judges are sold out.
What about the neutrals.
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The whole country is corrupt and sinking ship ... Full of retarded monkeysThen you are going to moan the Judges are sold out.
What about the neutrals.
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Fatima Jinnah & mujibur Rahman campaigning against Ayub khan .
&There you go proof if ever the establishment was against the people. Mother Jinnah rest in peace.
This famous speech of Sheikh Mujeeb-ur-Rehman is an eye opener. It exposes the lies of neutrals aka property dealers who still claim that the guy who won 1970's elections under military regime fair and square was actually a traitor!
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But while Pakistanis grapple with this new threat to their politics, it is for us in Bangladesh to go into a bit of the thinking that still exercises the military mind in Islamabad insofar as Bengali history is concerned. General Bajwa, in what he thought was an off-the-record conversation with some Pakistani journalists a couple of years ago, argued that the amendment in question had to go because, as he put it, it was ‘more dangerous than Sheikh Mujibur Rahman’s Six Points.’ He clearly has persisted in his assessment in these past two years, as recent developments in Pakistan show.Honestly, I am kicking myself for not researching more on Mujib, and for just taking the words of my elders about how bad he was. The more I research, the more I am convinced that Mujib was absolutely CORRECT ! In fact, he tried till the very LAST TO FOR THE COUNTRY TO REMAIN UNIFIED !
I CAN NOW SAFELY CONCLUDE WITHOUT ANY RESERVATIONS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR SEPARATION OF EAST PAKISTAN WAS IN FACT PAKISTAN ARMY GENERALS !!
And let me make another unfortunately prediction -- if things do not improve quickly, Pakistani Generals will be responsible for the separation of at least another Pakistan province !
However, that wasn't even the main reason why the military would not allow Mujib to become the Head of State, the main issue was his 6 point plan which would have relegated the federal government to defense and foreign affairs only, a dangerous level of decentralization which would have opened the path for Pakistan's disintegration, the plan also called for separate currencies, foreign exchanges and militaries.
Pakistan and Bangladesh should not have never been under one state and separation was inevitable given the differences.
Stop calling "Establishment" please use term "Army" confront the elephant in room head on
Army is not some honky tonk Jini in lamp , it can't be touched, poor families from Pakistan send their Youth to Join Military so they are part of Pakistan I don't like to use the TERM "ESTABLISHMENT"
It's Pakistan ARMY , say it like it is , it is not some Secret Society , untouchable
1971 Fiasco was Bhutto's stubbornness after loosing 16% vs 39% he should have conceded
> Ask anyone who is not Pakistan what should be ideal case and they would say well 39% guy won
Army made it a matter of personal pride them vs Mujib and result is simple Pakistan split in 1971
Where is Bhutto and his "Ahsaas-e-Takabur?" He is 6 feet under the ground
Where are the Military Nuetrals of the time ? They are all 6 feet under the ground
Ask a 5 year old Pakistani Bacha , beta , if you get 39% Good reviews and your brother gets 16% who did better in reviews he will say
"Certainly 39% > 16%"
But there was "AHSAS-E-TAKABUR!!! " How can we accept loss to Mujib?
99% of Pakistan see Bangali as our Brothers / Second cousin but Bhutto had this "AHSAS-E-TAKABUR!"
I blame the poverty and Natural Disasters for deep mistrust in East Pakistan
But the Elections of 1971 were final nail in coffin Bhutto was responsible for all of it
Today we have this same "AHSAS-E-TAKABUR" which is protecting Nawaz Sharif Enterprise and who is getting killed Citizens of Pakistan
The poor are crying on camera on YouTube the people at ground level
I am simple Pakistani Citizen , I see , Nawaz Sharif Enterprise is Untouchable
They can destroy NAB
They can get out of Jail
They can move money out of Pakistan at will
They can kill their Maqsood Chaprasi
They can control Supreme court
They can control High court
If anyone questions the Enterprise , Rules of Game are changed at will
I only see this "AHSAS-E-TAKABUR" running veins of Nation , like a Cancer
Army was made a scapegoat while Bhutto came out clean. Thanks to Bhutto, East Pakistan was lost.
I'm sorry but both PPP and PMLN completed their term 2008-2018 and PTI was in opposition at that time.Keep in mind that PPP, PML-N all have had to vacate the chair and go into opposition in the past and IK and PTI were just fine with them not being able to finish their term
Why would someone want to be leader on bengal only when he can become leader of whole Pakistan?Mujib was an actual traitor; he began talks with India for an independent Bangladesh during the 1960's, the conspiracy was detected by the intelligence, but they were ridiculed when the conspiracy was brought to light.
No support for PDM?However there is no support for PDM nor PTI currently.
yeah cut the defence budget by atleast 50%!ARMY , claiming it take FULL CUT OF 8 Billion for it's Budget , and then telling people we will drink less tea on Friday ???
Excuse me ? What
You are not at war , you can run your affairs with 1 Billion Dollar Soldier Salaries !!!
Pull out 7 Billion from Army budget and pay off any loan payment for IMF and end that program
Enough of this Establishment this or that !? ARMY needs to spend according to capacity of Nation
365 Days live with only 1 Billion Dollar you have only 1.5 Million soldiers who get salary
This whole Drama of IMF is because , every one loves their PERKS and life style
All Province should get a Cut of 1 Billion and Army should face a cut of 7 Billion
It will fix this whole NEUTRAL MIND set
Bail Out loan is not solution , cut the Military Budget and problem solve
Rupee stabilizes
Noyeah cut the defence budget by atleast 50%!
Raheel Shairf and Asif Nawaz are the only Chiefs to not have elections or overthrow of government in their tenures.I think most PA Chiefs act like Viceroy of US/NATO in Pakistan. A few were a little independent minded but they knew their limits.