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Shall India help USA to topple China or maintain a subtle balance between them?

Shall India help USA topple China?

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 25.6%
  • No

    Votes: 58 74.4%

  • Total voters
    78
I want to know Indians answer. As current Defence minister Parrikar visited China after Carter leave India. Shall we take it a good signal sent out by Modi government as'we are not following USA to contain China' or a way to appease China's worry.
The answer depends on China;s move. If China does not respect India's concern and keep on pricking India in one form or another, India will be pushed to join USA. So it is upto China to act as a mature country and resolve the border issue to end this trust deficit and have a better future.
 
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The fence in peoples' heart can't be removed easily. Neighbour can't be good without trust. Build trust at first then demarcate the border. You already have AP, you are the winner of 1962.

Trust is the after effect of peace of mind. Trust comes AFTER peace of mind.

So if you want Trust, first effect "Peace of Mind".

Can you "trust" an enemy ? Can you trust a man who is holding a gun pointing at you ? Cna you trust a animal lurking outside your doorstep ?

Trust is earned.
 
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The answer depends on China;s move. If China does not respect India's concern and keep on pricking India in one form or another, India will be pushed to join USA. So it is upto China to act as a mature country and resolve the border issue to end this trust deficit and have a better future.
Dalai Lama is our concern as well.

Trust is the after effect of peace of mind. Trust comes AFTER peace of mind.

So if you want Trust, first effect "Peace of Mind".

Can you "trust" an enemy ? Can you trust a man who is holding a gun pointing at you ? Cna you trust a animal lurking outside your doorstep ?

Trust is earned.
It takes time, easily said than done.
 
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It takes time, easily said than done.

True. Which is why I said, the success of a Foreign policy is directly related to the Shortest Time it takes to achieve the said objective.

But vetoing a move to take action against a known terrorist is hardly the way forward.
 
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How India expect China to ban Azhar when you still provide shield for the seperatists like Dalai Lama? Just think in our shoes.
 
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How India expect China to ban Azhar when you still provide shield for the seperatists like Dalai Lama? Just think in our shoes.

Dalai Lama has renounced separatism. He now only wants a special status inside China. Something you have already done with Hong Kong.

Second, Dalai Lama is still a very renowned leader of Buddhism all over the world. India has a duty to provide shelter to any such dharmic leader, it is very much a part of our civilization and culture and value system.

This should not be mixed and seen as politics. It has political overtones, but it also has cultural, spiritual, social and philosophical overtones.

Finally Dalai Lama has never advocated any violence towards Chinese people. Nor has be practised any violence.


There is no way you can compare Azhar mahamood to a man like Dalai Lama. The very fact that you do, makes your intentions dishonourable and suspect.

Don't you see that ?
 
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Dalai Lama has renounced separatism. He now only wants a special status inside China. Something you have already done with Hong Kong.

Second, Dalai Lama is still a very renowned leader of Buddhism all over the world. India has a duty to provide shelter to any such dharmic leader, it is very much a part of our civilization and culture and value system.

This should not be mixed and seen as politics. It has political overtones, but it also has cultural, spiritual, social and philosophical overtones.

Finally Dalai Lama has never advocated any violence towards Chinese people. Nor has be practised any violence.


There is no way you can compare Azhar mahamood to a man like Dalai Lama. The very fact that you do, makes your intentions dishonourable and suspect.

Don't you see that ?
The reason why you didn't see the tricks of Dalai Lama did to harm China's national security is the same reason why we ignore Azhar's. In Pakistan's eye, Azhar is the same spiritual leader just like Dalai Lama. That doesn't prevent you calling him a terrorists.
 
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The reason why you didn't see the tricks of Dalai Lama did to harm China's national security is the same reason why we ignore Azhar's. In Pakistan's eye, Azhar is the same spiritual leader just like Dalai Lama. That doesn't prevent you calling him a terrorists.

LOL...... you are free to call Azhar Mahmood a "spiritual leader" and an equivalent to Dalai Lama :lol:

It also shows why talking to you/china is such a waste of time.


It also tells its own story about why USA will continue to have foot hold against china and why you will continue to ask "why" even when the answer is right in front of you.

I do not want to waste any more of my time in this absurd theatrics. Don't bother to reply.
 
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LOL...... you are free to call Azhar Mahmood a "spiritual leader" and an equivalent to Dalai Lama :lol:

It also shows why talking to you/china is such a waste of time.


It also tells its own story about why USA will continue to have foot hold against china and why you will continue to ask "why" even when the answer is right in front of you.

I do not want to waste any more of my time in this absurd theatrics. Don't bother to reply.
A spiritual leader for other might be a terrorists for you, same as Dalai Lama.

You have to be joking !!!!!

Spiritual leader is the last thing a Yahoo like him can be.
I know India once captured Azhar, why you let him go?
 
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Terrorist - A person who uses terrorism like bombing, arson, incendiary, Guns in the pursuit of Political aims.
He seduced monks in Tibet to burn them self, that's arson. And the 2008 Lasa turmoil was under his command.
 
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I want to know Indians answer. As current Defence minister Parrikar visited China after Carter leave India. Shall we take it a good signal sent out by Modi government as'we are not following USA to contain China' or a way to appease China's worry.

India wants to be in Top3, we do want any rivalry with USA or China.

But we will protect our strategic and economic interests !
 
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A spiritual leader for other might be a terrorists for you, same as Dalai Lama.

I know India once captured Azhar, why you let him go?

Read this, is this your idea of a spiritual leader ?

How close is dalai lama to these activities ?

Masood Azhar (Urdu: محمد مسعود اظہر) is the founder and leader of the militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed, a militant group based mainly in the Pakistan-administered portion of the state of Kashmir. Pakistani authorities detained him after the Pathankot attack in India.

In August 1993 Azhar entered the UK for a speaking, fundraising, and recruitment tour. His message of jihad was given at some of Britain's most prestigious Islamic institutions including the Darul Uloom Bury seminary, Zakariya Mosque, Madina Masjid in Blackburn and Burnley, and Jamia Masjid. HIs message was that "substantial proportion of the Koran had been devoted to 'killing for the sake of Allah' and that a substantial volume of sayings of the Prophet Muhammad were on the issue of jihad." Azhar made contacts in Britain who helped to provide training and logistical support the terror plots including "7/7, 21/7 and the attempt in 2006 to smuggle liquid bomb-making substances on to transatlantic airlines."


In December 1999, he was freed by the Indian government in exchange for passengers on the hijacked Indian Airlines Flight 814 (IC814) that had eventually landed in Kandahar, Afghanistan, which at the time the Taliban controlled.The hijackers of IC 814 were led by Masood Azhar's brother, Ibrahim Athar. Once Masood Azhar was handed over to the hijackers in Kandhar, they fled to Pakistani territory. Pakistan had said the hijackers would be arrested if found, a difficult task given the length of the border and multitude of access points from Afghanistan. The Pakistani government also previously indicated that Azhar would be allowed to return home since he did not face any charges there.
 
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From what i understand, India has 4 choices:
1) Be USA's partner in countering China(If not Uncle Sam will slowly and steadily break u apart. That will serve their interest as well)
2) Be a super power yourself(For that u need to solve Kashmir issue)
3) Be clever and do a plebiscite in Kashmir and solve land dispute with China. This will make Pakistan, India, Iran, Afghanistan, China, Russia, Central Asia all come together and will the best thing that ever happened)
4) BE a wise a** and try and juggle the relationship with both USA and China( We can do it, U cant. At the end you are going to have to choose a side)

And remember, when America says "pivot of Asia" , Pakistan is literary the pivot. Now if you side with them the pivot will no longer be needed or most likely just ignored. But, the more u stall and try to run away or juggle relationships the more Uncle Sam will try and screw you. They want to contain China, period!

Cheers

PS: Pakistan being the pivot is way out of context here hence no point in discussing it further.
 
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