'Shadinota' Class corvette news and discussion.

[Bilal9]

An informative piece on the Kelvin Hughes SharpEye radar used in the C13B Shadhinota class. It is small enough to be used on the 650 ton Durjoy class as well and seems like a good retrofit candidate for that class - at present older vintage Chinese surveillance radar is in use.
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Kelvin Hughes Achieves Multiple Wins In Asia for Sharpeye™ And Naval Mantadigital™ Radar
Naval Industry News - UK

Kelvin Hughes Achieves Multiple Wins In Asia Through Supply Of Their Innovative Solutions Including Sharpeye™ And Naval Mantadigital™ Radar

Kelvin Hughes, a global supplier of navigation and surveillance systems, is pleased to announce multiple successes in Asia for its SharpEye™ and Naval MantaDigital™ technologies. Kelvin Hughes Surveillance is a division of Kelvin Hughes that focuses on naval, coastal and military markets to supply surveillance radar technologies into land and sea environments. Since the launch of SharpEye™, the advanced solid state radar is increasingly preferred by Navies throughout Asia.

Kelvin Hughes'SharpEye™ SCV (small craft variant) Radome

Successful demonstration of Kelvin Hughes’ SharpEye™ radar, and the associated Naval MantaDigital™ tactical display, has recently resulted in six orders by Asian Navies and shipyards.

SharpEye™ solid state radar is proven globally and is replacing less capable and less reliable magnetron technology. The radar has now been chosen in 32 programmes by 18 Navies for use as the navigation, surface search or helicopter control radar.

The unique capabilities of SharpEye™ have enabled the London-based technology company to grow its surveillance division revenue by over 20% year on year for the last 5 years. Growth for the current year is expected to exceed 50%.

Kelvin Hughes developed SharpEye™ with an aim to deliver superior radar performance and reliability without increasing the acquisition cost of the system compared to equivalent Naval radars.

As such, SharpEye™ is the world’s first affordable solid state radar sensor, offering high reliability and low cost of ownership. Used in marine, coastal and land-based platforms, the SharpEye™ radar offers outstanding performance and can even be optimised for particular targets.

The recent wins in Asia include SharpEye™ supply for the Royal Thai Navy as part of a retrofit programme, and to the Pakistan Navy through a US Navy ship transfer programme. Kelvin Hughes will also supply SharpEye™ to the Royal Malaysian Navy and the Republic of China Navy - Taiwan

Kelvin Hughes has also seen recent success in the Indonesian Coastal Surveillance market as a supplier to the Bakorkamla and DGST programme for radar installations on the islands and a commercial port respectively.

Rohan Dearlove, Head of Sales Central Region at Kelvin Hughes, stated: “We are very proud of our recent achievements in the Asian market and also proud to be the radar supplier for the UK MOD’s MARS programme”.

Kelvin Hughes is optimistic about the future and confident that Asia is still showing strong demand for radar based safety, surveillance and security solutions.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Mid 2019

What about frigate?

The Shadinota class has 8 sea state where Kyan Shittah class has 4.
Our Corvette uses C-802A anti ship missile which range is 180 km and the Kyan shittah class uses C-802 AShM which range is 120 km whereas our corvette's missile has 60 km additional range than Kyan Shitah class. Our Corvette's SAM has 9 km range where Kyan shitah's igla has 5.2 km range. So we can say Shadinota class Corvette is superior than Kyan shitah class Frigate.

I read about this too...
@Penguin can you confirm?

Cc
@Aung Zaya

 

[UKBengali]

What about frigate?

His reply was to me asking when the first of the 6 frigates will start to be constructed from.

 

[Michael Corleone]

His reply was to me asking when the first of the 6 frigates will start to be constructed from.

Ah G ... my bad man

 

[Nilgiri]

@Penguin can you confirm?

I think penguin left the forum, he has not posted in about 7 months time.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I think penguin left the forum, he has not posted in about 7 months time.

Ah well, about the Burmese indigenous frigates...
it hadn’t been deployed in high seas much... mostly shore duties... and their design capacity of sea state 4 had many Chinese forums talk about it, how they seek Chinese assistance.... but ofc it’s speculation at this point imo

 

[XDescendantX]

I read about this too...
@Penguin can you confirm?

I think penguin left the forum, he has not posted in about 7 months time.

Found him but it's mating season. Wish him luck.

 

[Nilgiri]

Ah well, about the Burmese indigenous frigates...
it hadn’t been deployed in high seas much... mostly shore duties... and their design capacity of sea state 4 had many Chinese forums talk about it, how they seek Chinese assistance.... but ofc it’s speculation at this point imo

Igla SAM is more proven system imo, the newer versions have 6 km range too. Besides it is silly comparing a corvette to a Frigate....there is a reason the frigate has 6 igla turrets but the corvette has just 1 FL-3000 system. Not to mention the way different FCS size (and thus max power available) on a frigate compared to corvette for sensing and tracking. This applies to the AshM too, there is no forward capability to integrate longer range C-802A into the frigate (if indeed Myanmar got the earlier version initially)? I think not...the range is missile-dependent (changed and upgraded all the time in upgrade rotations), not FCS dependent (architecture would always be designed to handle longer range of same class of missile).

SO I wouldn't talk about "shore duty"...when you are comparing a corvette with a third the tonnage to begin with. BD navy is definition of a littoral coastguard basically. One one hand can you count your vessels with some genuine green water capability.

 

[The Ronin]

@Aung Zaya it's already clear that to everyone how much shallow hull your frigate has, so plz quit wasting time on bragging about it. It's unnecessary to argue about this fact.

dont you think without helicopter deck it will be under threat of submarines?

What's helicopter deck have to do anything with submarine?? The ship will usually patrol shallow water where submarine with deep draft won't go and Durjoy M class ASW LPC will accompany it. So there's no worry.

Besides it is silly comparing a corvette to a Frigate

Exactly!! Don't know why people keep bringing old argument here. Both have different weapon in types and quantity. Except that hull factor.

 

[Aung Zaya]

dude, you friend Penguin is talking bias here...

its stupid to put igla and CIWs like fl2000 in the same level...

Can igla shoot down sea skimming cruise missiles? obviously not... or supersonic missiles? its designed to shoot down visible targets such as low flying helicopters, UAV and so on...

Russians could bomb Syria by flying 4000meter above height, which igla type missile cant do much after that height...

of course. Igla alone cant shoot down missiles.but something like Gibka which is integrated with tracking radar can. although our first prototype igla is manned , we can upgrade it to unmanned version later. moreover , we still has 3 x NG-18 CWIS and 2 x local made 14.5mm six-barral glatling gun as pint defence. so it can protect certain percent of incoming threats. u can see a clear pic of them in Myanmar defence forum.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-defence-forum.347379/

MANPAD alone is not that powerful. but those with fire control radar is strong enough to take responsibility certain share of incoming threats. there are many countries which uses that kind of system. Here is some photos of Indonesia frigates which installed simbad system , just a MANPAD according to bangladeshi members. LOL

@Aung Zaya it's already clear that to everyone how much shallow hull your frigate has, so plz quit wasting time on bragging about it. It's unnecessary to argue about this fact.

lol if so i bet ur old junk so called flagship BNS BB cant survive against SS 3. lol because it also got Shallow Hull.

 

[Kamil_baku]

@Aung Zaya it's already clear that to everyone how much shallow hull your frigate has, so plz quit wasting time on bragging about it. It's unnecessary to argue about this fact.

What's helicopter deck have to do anything with submarine?? The ship will usually patrol shallow water where submarine with deep draft won't go and Durjoy M class ASW LPC will accompany it. So there's no worry.



Exactly!! Don't know why people keep bringing old argument here. Both have different weapon in types and quantity. Except that hull factor.

If the ship can see the Submarine, it means submarine can also see the ship, but, with the helicopter, You can find and attack the submarine far from the ship.. which is very important.. otherwise its like 50-50 which will get hit first..

of course. Igla alone cant shoot down missiles.but something like Gibka which is integrated with tracking radar can. although our first prototype igla is manned , we can upgrade it to unmanned version later. moreover , we still has 3 x NG-18 CWIS and 2 x local made 14.5mm six-barral glatling gun as pint defence. so it can protect certain percent of incoming threats. u can see a clear pic of them in Myanmar defence forum.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/myanmar-defence-forum.347379/

MANPAD alone is not that powerful. but those with fire control radar is strong enough to take responsibility certain share of incoming threats. there are many countries which uses that kind of system. Here is some photos of Indonesia frigates which installed simbad system , just a MANPAD according to bangladeshi members. LOL
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lol if so i bet ur old junk so called flagship BNS BB cant survive against SS 3. lol because it also got Shallow Hull.

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unmanned version can only help you to track the visible target more efficient, as person might miss it...

Turkey developed similar one in 1990, but there is a reason Turkey is started to build its SAM(lets say short range like FL3000) to counter against cruise missiles... WHich is a very hard technology to make one as Turkey only started after 20 years and 10 years of research...

you can have 30mm cannon, but its well know that when cruise missiles attack at the same time to the ship, which is important part of new technology, those 30mm barrels cannot protect you...
You will simply need this kind of CIWS to shoot them down far from you...

i found it childish for myself to write about it but still want to write as several time mentioned above already..
FL3000 can hit subsonic target(as most of cruise missile fly with subsonic speed) from 9 km away... only supersonic missiles he can hit from 6km away...

 

[UKBengali]

@Aung Zaya

Very soon BD will have 5 SAM equipped ships that can simultaneously target 11 targets.
Want to play with BD Navy now?

 

[Nike]

@Aung Zaya

Very soon BD will have 5 SAM equipped ships that can simultaneously target 11 targets.
Want to play with BD Navy now?

The catch phrase of your is future tense, will, soon, and other.

 

[Aung Zaya]

unmanned version can only help you to track the visible target more efficient, as person might miss it...

Yes. bro
that's why we had to concentrate to get unmanned , lighter and more efficient version for 2 years and finally we can do it.
That is manned version. it's hilarious that in the first version , the shooter has to sit behind the system to fire the missiles.

newer unmanned version . it's much lighter and compact design.

Turkey developed similar one in 1990, but there is a reason Turkey is started to build its SAM(lets say short range like FL3000) to counter against cruise missiles... WHich is a very hard technology to make one as Turkey only started after 20 years and 10 years of research...

still nice. bro Turkey is the most strongest in military strength in EU so far.

@Aung Zaya

Very soon BD will have 5 SAM equipped ships that can simultaneously target 11 targets.
Want to play with BD Navy now?

lol who care ?

 

[Zarvan]

What I heard was this ship, I mean the ones Bangladesh have lack Anti Submarine capability. If true than this is not good news.