Seven US 'CIA agents' killed in Afghanistan bomb attack

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

A.Q. simply played their hand one step better here. If this account is true, though, then there's a high liklihood that those C.I.A. agents and others were standing before a man who DID know where Zawahiri was located...

Atleast you guys traked Zahwari then wats taking you so long . I suspect the moles in the top slot dont want tat ...!

 

[Awesome]

"It seems like Americans who were lecturing us on using Afghanis as pawns and working with known militant groups, are not above working with terrorists and bombers themselves."

Let's be clear here that nobody was working with a known terrorist group. Nor is it appropriate to equate attacking Zawahiri with attacking afghan civilians. What occurred-ostensibly "turning" an enemy agent of A.Q. and using him as a resource to attack Zawahiri is exactly what I'd expect my government's intelligence officials to be attempting.

A.Q. simply played their hand one step better here. If this account is true, though, then there's a high liklihood that those C.I.A. agents and others were standing before a man who DID know where Zawahiri was located...

...moments before detonating himself and them.

Zawahiri is that close and...evidently inside Pakistan.

I don't see a thing that was illegal about this operation. I see every reason to be impressed with A.Q.'s counter-intelligence. This is a very high stakes and lethal espionage war fought in those reaches of the border.

Thanks.

You can't send terrorists into Pakistan and say "Oh we meant for them to play nice". Look what they did to you anyway. You obviously have zilch control over them but want to continue your experiments with Pakistan in the middle. Your Jordanian terrorist could've just as much killed Pakistanis.

Its illegal to the bone. Act of war level illegal.

Also I don't see how its proven that Zawahiri was so close and in Pakistan. You brought a terrorist to Pakistan, a blogger - probably an educated nut job - dangerous - smart enough to fool the CIA. He goes for a walk, picks up a bomb, comes back and blows your own people. Please explain to me the logic of making a claim that he was so close Zawahiri.

You're reaching.

Americans have often boasted they can make it on their own in Pakistan and keep the Pakistanis out of the loop. If that means pumping Pakistan full of terrorists that the Americans "feel" have turned and seen the light, then this should be a blaring reminder to you all that you're pretty much out of your element when it comes to our region.

 

[Awesome]

Atleast you guys traked Zahwari then wats taking you so long . I suspect the moles in the top slot dont want tat ...!

We all know that even if Zawahiri was tracked to be in the President house, there'd be drones bombing it as well. They obviously have nothing more than what blogger terrorists have been saying to them.

Remember that article where one moron chap who was paid throw locator beacons next to Taliban hideouts, ran out of known Taliban leaders he knew and then started throwing them across random huts and the drones started bombing there.

The American strategy with the tribal areas is, "We've got enough bombs to spare so keep bombing till you get one lucky shot".

 

[All-Green]

"It seems like Americans who were lecturing us on using Afghanis as pawns and working with known militant groups, are not above working with terrorists and bombers themselves."

Let's be clear here that nobody was working with a known terrorist group. Nor is it appropriate to equate attacking Zawahiri with attacking afghan civilians. What occurred-ostensibly "turning" an enemy agent of A.Q. and using him as a resource to attack Zawahiri is exactly what I'd expect my government's intelligence officials to be attempting.

A.Q. simply played their hand one step better here. If this account is true, though, then there's a high liklihood that those C.I.A. agents and others were standing before a man who DID know where Zawahiri was located...

...moments before detonating himself and them.

Zawahiri is that close and...evidently inside Pakistan.

I don't see a thing that was illegal about this operation. I see every reason to be impressed with A.Q.'s counter-intelligence. This is a very high stakes and lethal espionage war fought in those reaches of the border.

Thanks.

How did you conclude him being in Pakistan?

The one point i would like to make is that intelligence agencies walk on the edge and such things can happen.
However similar tactics when employed by ISI would be seen as rogue elements helping terrorists...that is something which needs to be brought into perspective when some of our friends jump up and down about it...
Such infiltrations do offer a very good chance of success...yet such a double agent can also misguide and misdirect the fire to build more anti US sentiment, risky business and not without its pitfalls but then there is no best policy...flexibility (in approach) is the keyword here but then it should be accepted across the board.

Now Al-Qaeda has a surprisingly effective counter intelligence, i would say that one of the most important TTP leaders was saved on 2 occasions when the man betraying him was caught and killed by counter intelligence, the second time the guy was very close to getting highest security clearance but was eliminated.
Whether Al-Qaeda has evolved so much or an even more trained hand is helping them remains to be seen.

 

[Awesome]

Apparently Jordon has been a hidden player in all of this. I think their intelligence agency is believed by the Americans to have penetrating abilities within the AQ.

Something is really rotten here. I hope the truth comes out.

 

[TaimiKhan]

ylmeYE_zRdY[/media] - The many faces of the double agent CIA bomber - 06 Jan 09

Apparently Jordon has been a hidden player in all of this. I think their intelligence agency is believed by the Americans to have penetrating abilities within the AQ.

Something is really rotten here. I hope the truth comes out.

Asim, hope so seen Body of Lies movie. With this latest development, it reminded me of that movie. Jordanian were seen playing a major role in that movie also, same double agent kind of stuff, here also we see a double agent thing being run by the Jordanians. Coincidence Or .............. ???

 

[ahmed_naj]

I think their intelligence agency is believed by the Americans to have penetrating abilities within the AQ

Its all about HUMINT, many other intel establishments in the GCC co-operate with the americans. to make contact with a mole/asset is the most difficult and then you either have to change his loyalties, motivate him or manipulate him. This where arab intel estbs. like the GID (Jordanian intelligence and btw they are very respected by gcc nations and pak) are useful.

Something is really rotten here. I hope the truth comes out.

or just a blunder, everyone makes mistakes.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

Asim, hope so seen Body of Lies movie. With this latest development, it reminded me of that movie. Jordanian were seen playing a major role in that movie also, same double agent kind of stuff, here also we see a double agent thing being run by the Jordanians. Coincidence Or .............. ???

Exactly i was also wondering the same ....!

 

[Hulk]

Suicide attack on CIA agents 'was planned by bin Laden inner circle' - Times Online

 

[BATMAN]

Suicide attack on CIA agents 'was planned by bin Laden inner circle' - Times Online

Crap without any evidence or logic.
Israel have lot of influence in Jorday and Afghanistan through its proxy india. recently US was talking of putting sanctions on Israel so it could be a response organised via RAW and RAMA.

 

[BATMAN]

Asim, hope so seen Body of Lies movie. With this latest development, it reminded me of that movie. Jordanian were seen playing a major role in that movie also, same double agent kind of stuff, here also we see a double agent thing being run by the Jordanians. Coincidence Or .............. ???

Its a thick soup or let say spagetti, lets count:
US ARMY
NATO
INDIAN ARMY
AFGHAN NATIONAL ARMY
MOSSAD
RAW
RAMA
ISI
JORDANIANS
IRANIANS
SAUDIS and UAE (probably)
AL QAEEDA
TALIBAN
FAKE TALIBAN
BLACKWATER
XE
PAKISTANI DOUBLE AGENTS
HAQANI
TRIBALS
JANDULLA

did i forgot any one?

 

[Iggy]

Crap without any evidence or logic.
Israel have lot of influence in Jorday and Afghanistan through its proxy india. recently US was talking of putting sanctions on Israel so it could be a response organised via RAW and RAMA.

Whats RAMA??

 

[Barrett]

Whats RAMA??

Afghan Intelligence, the name came as a surprise to you ?
Same here

 

[Iggy]

Afghan Intelligence, the name came as a surprise to you ?
Same here

i thought it was another Hindu fanatic organisations created by Zaid Hamid..yes i was surprised too yaar ..

 

[SummerWine]

CIA Bomber al-Balawi Was No Double Agent, Say Jordanians - Yahoo! News