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American don't have free health care because they have a Health Insurance system that works.

I live in both US and Australia, US does not have universal health care, Australia does, but if I works in US (not paid under the table) then I will have access to free insurance. Which is cheaper than when I use Medicare in Australia if I require a long stay in Hospital. Sure doctor visit is bulk billed (mean it is free) in Australia but if I have to buy medicine or stay in a hospital or go into a specialist, this would still cost me 1000s of dollars in Australia unless I have the all coveted blue card, but in American, all I need is to pay $650 Co-payment and I can get all the medicine I want and stay in Hospital how ever long I wanted.
It's still bullshit and inhumane. I call for socialism on this.

Free chocolates and health care for the people! :P
 
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It's still bullshit and inhumane. I call for socialism on this.

Free chocolates and health care for the people! :P
sometime free things is not free. You still have to pay for it, just not with money.

I have had visited a doctor in my local area, since I pay jack shit and bulk billed. I have to wait for 4 hours to have all the other people sorted out first before I was seen. I would have wait no more than 30 minutes if I was in the US and probably go home with medicine instead of siting in my local doctor office. All I need to do is to pay the $25 or $30 co-payment.

The free system only work if you have enough doctors and nurse to take care of the system, they don't have enough either in Australia. Which means on average you wait 2 hours before you are seen by a doctor, and probably 6 to 7 hours if you are in a Hospital Admission.

It get so bad I am actually considering health insurance in Australia. That is how bad the "free" system works. Problem is, there are no incentive to be a doctor and nurse when you are earning a fix wages (90 grands for a doctors and 70 grands for a nurse) because you are going to get bulk billed by the government anyway, It does not really matter how many patient you see and how many you take care of, unlike in the US, the money factor motivate you to see more patient and turn them around quicker so you earn more money.
 
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WOW
I think China's military expenditure should be raised to the same defence bugdet/GDP ratio of the United States.
US 3.5%, China 1.18%
At least we should raise it to 2% of the demand of the United States for NATO, that is, $360 billion. If we raise it to the 3.5% level of the United States, it will reach 630 billion dollars,Now it's only 1.18%, $230 billion,Our military spending in 1979 was 5.5% of GDP,If we raise it to 5.5% now, it will reach $1 trillion. Of course, it is impossible now.

However, still hope that our military expenditure will reach 2% of GDP, $360 billion,the global average .
A lot of American military budget is useless for military purposes. In my estimate 50% is just wasted overpaying and writing off stuff, 25% given away in military aid generosity and probably 20% into valid operations and 5% in innovations.
 
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A lot of American military budget is useless for military purposes. In my estimate 50% is just wasted overpaying and writing off stuff, 25% given away in military aid generosity and probably 20% into valid operations and 5% in innovations.

5% in innovations.

That is why the US will lose in the near future.
 
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Yes, I know his previous names. :)



Well, he has changed and declared so with this thread :

Two similar threads :



A fraud like American "democracy".



It won't be long because your free healthcare will be declared by the American government to be against the "Laws of the Free West" and thus something to be privatized.

You get more and more comical
 
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sometime free things is not free. You still have to pay for it, just not with money.

I have had visited a doctor in my local area, since I pay jack shit and bulk billed. I have to wait for 4 hours to have all the other people sorted out first before I was seen. I would have wait no more than 30 minutes if I was in the US and probably go home with medicine instead of siting in my local doctor office. All I need to do is to pay the $25 or $30 co-payment.

The free system only work if you have enough doctors and nurse to take care of the system, they don't have enough either in Australia. Which means on average you wait 2 hours before you are seen by a doctor, and probably 6 to 7 hours if you are in a Hospital Admission.

It get so bad I am actually considering health insurance in Australia. That is how bad the "free" system works. Problem is, there are no incentive to be a doctor and nurse when you are earning a fix wages (90 grands for a doctors and 70 grands for a nurse) because you are going to get bulk billed by the government anyway, It does not really matter how many patient you see and how many you take care of, unlike in the US, the money factor motivate you to see more patient and turn them around quicker so you earn more money.

Little and much-sanctioned Cuba and also Libyan Jamahiriya has / had free healthcare. So do other Socialist and Communist societies. Is there a need for you to make up excuses just to side with the Capitalist establishment ? Every basic human need like housing, basic food, water, telecom, healthcare, education, public transport etc should be free and there is no rational reason why they should be not. Do you want people to live under the open sky, open to the sun, cold, dust, rain, snow and pollution just because they are unable to come up with hundreds of thousands of units of the artificial construct called money ? Do you want people to go hungry because they can't produce the money demanded by the system ? Do you want to tax people for even the Nature-constructed resource called water ? Do you want people to continue to suffer illness or die of it because though the hospital has the cure for the illness it refuses to deliver it to the sufferer unless he or she produces the artificial construct called money ? This is plain extortion and plain murder. So the hospital is allowed to kill a person because he or she can't produce money ? This is criminal and the American system as other Capitalist systems like the extremely Capitalist Indian one enable this criminality which shouldn't be allowed :
Do the American president and the Indian prime minister not find themselves shamed because they daily take part in such criminality ? The American establishment calls itself as "The world's oldest democracy" and the Indian establishment calls itself as "The world's most populous democracy". Really ? Their irrational and murderous political, social and socio-economic systems are democracies only for the rich and not for anyone poor. The rich can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in getting their nose reshaped while the poor don't have the money to treat cancer which will kill them unless treated. Yet the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does regime change operations or tries to, against societies where basic human needs are provided by the system without exchange of money. The North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does not regime change "The free world" in which the citizens are oppressed and have system-delivered criminality and inhumanity.

This is my thread started in 2020 which is my proposal for a new socio-economic system where basic necessities are provided free by the system to every citizen ( unless that citizen is a psychopath ) and all non-basic needs are provided through an evolved money system ( I should call it by another name ) which ensures the abolition of the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) and using it the citizen will be able to access all the goods and services in society at potentially an equal basis. This is a part realization of Communism's desire for the abolition of money.

@Foinikas

You get more and more comical

What amused you ?
 
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Little and much-sanctioned Cuba and also Libyan Jamahiriya has / had free healthcare. So do other Socialist and Communist societies. Is there a need for you to make up excuses just to side with the Capitalist establishment ? Every basic human need like housing, basic food, water, telecom, healthcare, education, public transport etc should be free and there is no rational reason why they should be not. Do you want people to live under the open sky, open to the sun, cold, dust, rain, snow and pollution just because they are unable to come up with hundreds of thousands of units of the artificial construct called money ? Do you want people to go hungry because they can't produce the money demanded by the system ? Do you want to tax people for even the Nature-constructed resource called water ? Do you want people to continue to suffer illness or die of it because though the hospital has the cure for the illness it refuses to deliver it to the sufferer unless he or she produces the artificial construct called money ? This is plain extortion and plain murder. So the hospital is allowed to kill a person because he or she can't produce money ? This is criminal and the American system as other Capitalist systems like the extremely Capitalist Indian one enable this criminality which shouldn't be allowed :
Do the American president and the Indian prime minister not find themselves shamed because they daily take part in such criminality ? The American establishment calls itself as "The world's oldest democracy" and the Indian establishment calls itself as "The world's most populous democracy". Really ? Their irrational and murderous political, social and socio-economic systems are democracies only for the rich and not for anyone poor. The rich can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in getting their nose reshaped while the poor don't have the money to treat cancer which will kill them unless treated. Yet the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does regime change operations or tries to, against societies where basic human needs are provided by the system without exchange of money. The North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does not regime change "The free world" in which the citizens are oppressed and have system-delivered criminality and inhumanity.

This is my thread started in 2020 which is my proposal for a new socio-economic system where basic necessities are provided free by the system to every citizen ( unless that citizen is a psychopath ) and all non-basic needs are provided through an evolved money system ( I should call it by another name ) which ensures the abolition of the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) and using it the citizen will be able to access all the goods and services in society at potentially an equal basis. This is a part realization of Communism's desire for the abolition of money.

@Foinikas
Extreme capitalism is evil. You cannot go to the hospital and pay thousands of dollars for a check-up or depend on social security. At least communist countries had free health care.

Europe has cheaper health care than USA. It's no wonder American tourists are suprised when they have to get care in a European country,when they find out the difference in the bills.
 
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Little and much-sanctioned Cuba and also Libyan Jamahiriya has / had free healthcare. So do other Socialist and Communist societies. Is there a need for you to make up excuses just to side with the Capitalist establishment ? Every basic human need like housing, basic food, water, telecom, healthcare, education, public transport etc should be free and there is no rational reason why they should be not. Do you want people to live under the open sky, open to the sun, cold, dust, rain, snow and pollution just because they are unable to come up with hundreds of thousands of units of the artificial construct called money ? Do you want people to go hungry because they can't produce the money demanded by the system ? Do you want to tax people for even the Nature-constructed resource called water ? Do you want people to continue to suffer illness or die of it because though the hospital has the cure for the illness it refuses to deliver it to the sufferer unless he or she produces the artificial construct called money ? This is plain extortion and plain murder. So the hospital is allowed to kill a person because he or she can't produce money ? This is criminal and the American system as other Capitalist systems like the extremely Capitalist Indian one enable this criminality which shouldn't be allowed :
Do the American president and the Indian prime minister not find themselves shamed because they daily take part in such criminality ? The American establishment calls itself as "The world's oldest democracy" and the Indian establishment calls itself as "The world's most populous democracy". Really ? Their irrational and murderous political, social and socio-economic systems are democracies only for the rich and not for anyone poor. The rich can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in getting their nose reshaped while the poor don't have the money to treat cancer which will kill them unless treated. Yet the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does regime change operations or tries to, against societies where basic human needs are provided by the system without exchange of money. The North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does not regime change "The free world" in which the citizens are oppressed and have system-delivered criminality and inhumanity.

This is my thread started in 2020 which is my proposal for a new socio-economic system where basic necessities are provided free by the system to every citizen ( unless that citizen is a psychopath ) and all non-basic needs are provided through an evolved money system ( I should call it by another name ) which ensures the abolition of the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) and using it the citizen will be able to access all the goods and services in society at potentially an equal basis. This is a part realization of Communism's desire for the abolition of money.

@Foinikas



What amused you ?
What all that had to do with what I say about Free System in Australia give you long waiting time and not enough doctor and nurse for the job?

You can have a free system that can accomplish a lot, and you can have a free system that can fall short, there are no one system applies to all situation, I mean, I have had live in Sweden, UK, US, Hong Kong and Australia for an extended amount of time, and I have access to NHS in UK, Free Health Care in Hong Kong (Not free anymore now since China took over) and Free Health Care in Sweden and Australia. There are some state that are better than US paid insurance system, some not. In the case of UK, HK and Australia, those care are high demand, and you will need to have enough resource to maintain them, and they can't because the system is free. That's the issue. Not how it work in Libya, or how it is capitalism to be charged.

Ever heard of Medicaid?
Also VA.

Well, VA is not a good free system, but well, it's still free for Vets.
 
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Why do you say he is anti-American ? Though it was recently when he decided to become anti-NATO after getting to know the barbaric nature of the Ukro nationalists / nazis. :)



It is very very good that you have free healthcare and that leads to the important question : Why do you support the American government's military machine which is protecting and imposing Capitalism where basic human needs and rights like housing, healthcare and education are not free and where the hospital extorts money form you to remove your illness and if you can't pay then you suffer on or die ? :)

First of all.
There are too many humans, you good Socialist.
Some that die, deserve to live and many that live deserve to die (depends on own morale values, who deserves death and who deserves a long healthy life).
You want that quality humans support all these useless eaters which bring NOTHING in return except their (useless) existence and happy socialist hand clapping.
Will not happen, thanks god.
Somebody - mostly from the typical "regions", who can't feed his children shouldn't make them in the first place.
I am honest, i don't like the hypocritical humanistic bs propaganda from the West.
They are responsible for themself, if they die, they die.
It's still bullshit and inhumane. I call for socialism on this.

Free chocolates and health care for the people! :P

Extreme capitalism is evil. You cannot go to the hospital and pay thousands of dollars for a check-up or depend on social security. At least communist countries had free health care.

Europe has cheaper health care than USA. It's no wonder American tourists are suprised when they have to get care in a European country,when they find out the difference in the bills.

Yes "Raubtierkapitalismus" IS bad. There is nobody with a healthy mind who will deny this fact.
But a "moderate" Capitalism is very good.
Free health care for the OWN people is very important.
What is not ok is that every 3rd worlder and (even own) "system abuser" can apply for this luxury. Who is paying the bills?
Only somebody who give (or gave before in his life) something to the country where free health care exists should be allowed to get this support.
Everybody who works and live after the (atm too lax) rules of the country he lives in, should be cared for. 100%.
 
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But a "moderate" Capitalism is very good.
Of course. That's what I mean. Just like a small socialism rather than Communist State.

I mean,we can't have extreme Capitalism like in Bioshock's Rapture,where even the police was private and those who could afford it had protection.
 
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Of course. That's what I mean. Just like a small socialism rather than Communist State.

I mean,we can't have extreme Capitalism like in Bioshock's Rapture,where even the police was private and those who could afford it had protection.

Yes. the right mixture makes it.
Remember Bismarck?
He was a "Socialist" to a certain point where it benefits the support of the ordinary German soul so even the "lower ones" can do their part for a STRONG society.
THAT IS THE WAY imo.
 
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Extreme capitalism is evil. You cannot go to the hospital and pay thousands of dollars for a check-up or depend on social security. At least communist countries had free health care.

Europe has cheaper health care than USA. It's no wonder American tourists are suprised when they have to get care in a European country,when they find out the difference in the bills.

Both good points. And I like to be in balance in propagating Communism while maintaining the spirit of private enterprise. The system should enable for the citizen to not be troubled in any way in obtaining material needs ( healthcare, loan from the single bank in society etc ) so that every citizen is spiritually / psychologically emancipated from existence burdens and will be able to contribute to society and humanity through the enterprise of his or her capability and interest. Any human should be given the opportunity to become Elon Musk and it is currently not Nature which stops that but the socio-economic systems in most countries.

What all that had to do with what I say about Free System in Australia give you long waiting time and not enough doctor and nurse for the job?

You can have a free system that can accomplish a lot, and you can have a free system that can fall short, there are no one system applies to all situation, I mean, I have had live in Sweden, UK, US, Hong Kong and Australia for an extended amount of time, and I have access to NHS in UK, Free Health Care in Hong Kong (Not free anymore now since China took over) and Free Health Care in Sweden and Australia. There are some state that are better than US paid insurance system, some not. In the case of UK, HK and Australia, those care are high demand, and you will need to have enough resource to maintain them, and they can't because the system is free. That's the issue. Not how it work in Libya, or how it is capitalism to be charged.

There can be one progressive political system and one progressive socio-economic system that can apply to all of humanity whether on Earth or whether they venture out but instituted in the local societies according to local conditions. The simple pre-2011 Libyan political system called Jamahiriya which was a direct democracy system, an expression of true democracy ( one of the desires of Communism ) alongside a Socialist socio-economic system, that political system was adapted by Hugo Chavez for Venezuelan conditions. You should know this since you lived in Venezuela and know about it.

I desire for One Humanity One Governance.

Also VA.

Well, VA is not a good free system, but well, it's still free for Vets.

That American establishment treats the American soldier for free because it needs him to be the gun arm for its Capitalist imperialism. Will the VA system give free healthcare to say the activists of the 2011 Occupy Wall Street movement ?

First of all.
There are too many humans, you good Socialist.
Some that die, deserve to live and many that live deserve to die (depends on own morale values, who deserves death and who deserves a long healthy life).
You want that quality humans support all these useless eaters which bring NOTHING in return except their (useless) existence and happy socialist hand clapping.
Will not happen, thanks god.

I being in India agree fully with you that there are too many useless humans who don't contribute. I read recently in India the 1971 census said that the Indian population was 560 million, now it is 1400 million and many of this massive number are total wastes of oxygen, fertilizer, water and patience. There are about 500+ million irrational right-wingers in India. We can discount some of the females from this number because they are just victims of mass brainwashing.

So what to do ? Or rather what should have been done ? Modern Western governments and their fake-feminist activist supporters have created an unnatural atmosphere where humans only above the arbitrarily designated age of 18 are considered "adult", "responsible", "sensible" and of course of voting age ( in the anti-democracy Anglo political system ) those even a day below 18 are considered "children" whatever their real feelings about sensuality and whatever their committing of crimes. However, this magical age of 18 has not since 1945 made any above it to be infused with enlightenment just because of the age and there was no "Gathering of The Elders of 18 Years One Day" in 1945 that suddenly brought peace and advancement to humanity. What were / are the ages of Obomba, bin Laden and Modi when they committed or continue to commit atrocious crimes ? Certainly not 14. Certainly above the voting age.

So, neither elections and voting are the sign of democracy nor is 18 a magical age so abolish both. For the former set up a party-less where the people - the masses - will directly participate in the running of everyday society, with self-elected people's congresses and committees being their expression of administration and self-governance, where the ideas at the top level ( in a very simple hierarchy ) are discussed at the last level and where the ideas and suggestions and course corrections discussed at the last level are taken up at top level and enabled. Such a system existed in the Libyan Jamahiriya until the 2011 invasion. You can read the basis of that system here. About age, the age of adulthood should be at least 14, as close as possible to the Nature-dictated boundary of one becoming an adult i.e. through puberty. And then the political system will have a system where the citizen's humane-ness, maturity and potential to contribute to society can be judged and identified earlier in life, even before 14 because there will become a culture to treat people maturely earlier and the whole society will be a lot lot serene and harmonious, and if there are transgressions by the citizen then he or she can be sent to re-education much earlier which will save a lot of societal resources which was your intent too. :)
 
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Little and much-sanctioned Cuba and also Libyan Jamahiriya has / had free healthcare. So do other Socialist and Communist societies. Is there a need for you to make up excuses just to side with the Capitalist establishment ? Every basic human need like housing, basic food, water, telecom, healthcare, education, public transport etc should be free and there is no rational reason why they should be not. Do you want people to live under the open sky, open to the sun, cold, dust, rain, snow and pollution just because they are unable to come up with hundreds of thousands of units of the artificial construct called money ? Do you want people to go hungry because they can't produce the money demanded by the system ? Do you want to tax people for even the Nature-constructed resource called water ? Do you want people to continue to suffer illness or die of it because though the hospital has the cure for the illness it refuses to deliver it to the sufferer unless he or she produces the artificial construct called money ? This is plain extortion and plain murder. So the hospital is allowed to kill a person because he or she can't produce money ? This is criminal and the American system as other Capitalist systems like the extremely Capitalist Indian one enable this criminality which shouldn't be allowed :
Do the American president and the Indian prime minister not find themselves shamed because they daily take part in such criminality ? The American establishment calls itself as "The world's oldest democracy" and the Indian establishment calls itself as "The world's most populous democracy". Really ? Their irrational and murderous political, social and socio-economic systems are democracies only for the rich and not for anyone poor. The rich can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in getting their nose reshaped while the poor don't have the money to treat cancer which will kill them unless treated. Yet the North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does regime change operations or tries to, against societies where basic human needs are provided by the system without exchange of money. The North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does not regime change "The free world" in which the citizens are oppressed and have system-delivered criminality and inhumanity.

This is my thread started in 2020 which is my proposal for a new socio-economic system where basic necessities are provided free by the system to every citizen ( unless that citizen is a psychopath ) and all non-basic needs are provided through an evolved money system ( I should call it by another name ) which ensures the abolition of the traditional Capitalist socio-economic classes ( rich, middle, poor ) and using it the citizen will be able to access all the goods and services in society at potentially an equal basis. This is a part realization of Communism's desire for the abolition of money.

@Foinikas



What amused you ?

Believe it or not, USA doesnt care what internal politics nations in Europe do
 
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