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stop blabbering mystic sh*t and answer the question.. :)

That's the beauty of Philosophy...there is no "right" answer.
We can discuss and each of us will reach our conclusions. The moment we give an answer, then it stops being philosophy and becomes a "fact"...

What would be the fun in that? :D
 
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That's the beauty of Philosophy...there is no "right" answer.
We can discuss and each of us will reach our conclusions. The moment we give an answer, then it stops being philosophy and becomes a "fact"...

What would be the fun in that? :D
you just made a random claim(humans got soul that might enter other animals after death).. instead of defending it you are hiding behind the word 'philosophy'... how about not making a claim that we know nothing about?
 
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Watch movie White Tank a Russian movie, on you tube. You will understand my logic here :cheers:
That was a really weird movie esp the ending i mean was that guy and his tank were just a spirit to counter that Tiger?
Go for it sir. It's philosophy. So, there is nothing you can say that will offend. At worst you can call those who believe in this stuff as fools ;)
Nah for now let's just observe :)
 
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Can you explain the term "truth" please?

The Truth is Brahman or the undifferentiated existence. That is the state of existence before the differentiated universe came into being. It is also called as Kaala or Time/Emptinesss/Space or Consciousness. This is all that existed or exists. It is when Time takes a curve gravity is born and through gravity everything else. So being able to transcend the spacetime curve gets you beyond the realm of physicality into the realm of pure existence. That is the Truth.
 
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That was a really weird movie esp the ending i mean was that guy and his tank were just a spirit to counter that Tiger?

Yikes! You also saw that?:rofl:

I agree, the end was as such. However, not the first Russian movie with a senseless ending. There was a movie (I don't have the script) 'Za Shto' (if you don't speak Russian it means for what).

After 03 hours of watching it, I asked the same question of myself!!:cray:
 
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Ah you watched it?

LOL .. no, don't worry, certain leeway the mods are kind enough to grant. But yup :tup:
Yes i have seen it. I find T-34 a turning point in WW2

you like living on the edge, i try to stay safe :-)
 
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Yes i have seen it. I find T-34 a turning point in WW2

you like living on the edge, i try to stay safe :-)

Yup. The Russians just outproduced the damn tank. It was a fine tank and robust, a philosophy seen in their tank designing till date!

Don't worry. I usually try and post sense so not on their watchlist ;), and mods are bit lenient if you don't troll or derail a post with arguments, accusations, and insults.
 
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are you saying there is a hiararchy of life forms, with humans being on top.. thats a human centric view.... plus why is it that human number is increasing where as most other animals are going instinct....
as huge number of animals are preprogrammed to behave certain way, how to you attach motive behind their action, and how do you allow them to step up the ladder?

There is no hierarchy of life forms. Everything in the universe is sentient including all animate and inanimate objects. The only difference is the human is able to be creative in ways other animals cannot. Well if more and more souls are achieving human form, that could be the explanation behind why humans are increasing and certain species of animals are decreasing.

Just by being themselves. As state the purpose of life is life itself. So the soul in an animal form is just exploring life at that level. When it is done it moves on to a next level.
 
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The Truth is Brahman or the undifferentiated existence. That is the state of existence before the differentiated universe came into being. It is also called as Kaala or Time/Emptinesss/Space or Consciousness. This is all that existed or exists. It is when Time takes a curve gravity is born and through gravity everything else. So being able to transcend the spacetime curve gets you beyond the realm of physicality into the realm of pure existence. That is the Truth.

Did humans exist in this state of time? or just Gods or a God existed?

whats the importance of this Kaala or Time/Emptinesss/Space or Consciousness.
 
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You will come as a tank, seeing your grasp of the armour;)

Watch movie White Tank a Russian movie, on you tube. You will understand my logic here :cheers:
Sir do you remember your previous life and its mistakes, Why you born as a Human again.
 
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There is no hierarchy of life forms. Everything in the universe is sentient including all animate and inanimate objects. The only difference is the human is able to be creative in ways other animals cannot. Well if more and more souls are achieving human form, that could be the explanation behind why humans are increasing and certain species of animals are decreasing.

Just by being themselves. As state the purpose of life is life itself. So the soul in an animal form is just exploring life at that level. When it is done it moves on to a next level.
so the rocks are sentient beings? if i break a rock into multiple rocks do i get multiple sentient beings or only one of the rocks remain sentient? are you just calling any physical object a sentient being? how is it different from non sentient being?

what is the scheme that dictates whether animals achieve human form or human achieve animal form... is it just random?
 
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Sir do you remember your previous life and its mistakes, Why you born as a Human again.

Meant as a joke? Or insult? I don't understand ..

@Sarge and I were discussing armoured warfare on a thread where the topic was something else, and we both clammed up after one post each, which were lengthy!

He has a good knowledge of the same, and seeing his enthusiasm for it, the post of his being reborn a tank!!!:woot:

There is a movie 'White Tank' both @Sarge and @The Sandman have seen it, we are having fun at its expense. Weird movie. It is on you tube, watch if you can.
 
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Did humans exist in this state of time? or just Gods or a God existed?

whats the importance of this Kaala or Time/Emptinesss/Space or Consciousness.

Nah not even Gods existed in that state. Even that state would not know where its existence began or where it ends.

Kaala is the reality of existence. It is the lap in which the universe exists. It is reason behind creation and creation itself. It also gets called Shiva meaning That Which Is Not as opposed to That Which Is which is the universe. Call it Dark Energy or Dark Matter or Spacetime.

Our physical universe, everything we sense, see, hear, and feel in it is based in this consciousness. It is not our physical bodies which gives rise to consciousness but it is consciousness which gives rise to our physical body. It is that because of which your eyes can see and your ears can listen.
 
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Meant as a joke? Or insult? I don't understand ..

@Sarge and I were discussing armoured warfare on a thread where the topic was something else, and we both clammed up after one post each, which were lengthy!

He has a good knowledge of the same, and seeing his enthusiasm for it, the post of his being reborn a tank!!!:woot:

There is a movie 'White Tank' both @Sarge and @The Sandman have seen it, we are having fun at its expense. Weird movie. It is on you tube, watch if you can.
Sir this life is only one chance, after death every one will face the result ( as a Human) not as dog born, tank born or any other.
 
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so the rocks are sentient beings? if i break a rock into multiple rocks do i get multiple sentient beings or only one of the rocks remain sentient? are you just calling any physical object a sentient being? how is it different from non sentient being?

what is the scheme that dictates whether animals achieve human form or human a chieve animal form... is it just random?

Yes rocks are sentient beings. You will get as many sentient beings as many as you break. Every atom by itself has sentience. That is Quantum Physics for you.

I am calling the entire universe sentient. Physical/Non physical. Everything. To give you an analogy, whether it is a drop of water or a pond or a river or a lake or an Ocean, it is water and it remains water no matter how many divisions you do of it. Likewise no matter what form it takes and how many sections you make of it, it remains sentient because it is part of the universal soul.

There is no scheme but just say a journey through various facets of life. So becoming a human for an animal is not scheme it has to work towards, but something that happens when it has explored other forms of life. As far as humans are concerned, having achieved a level of consciousness where creativity is unbound to get back to an animal form would be sort of a retrogression or a necessity for the soul to fulfill some karma. I am no expert, the subject is still new to me.

Once I saw this documentary where a set of deep ocean fishes, small tiny fingerlings, where swimming in sulphuric acid pools. Got me thinking if this was hell and let us say some soul had to spend some time in sulphuric acid for say 10 lifetimes, this would be a nice way to do it. Become a fish for 10 lifetimes, say 2 months a lifetime, swim around a sulphuric acid pool, and then phew back to human life form after 2 years of penance.
 
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