Scheduled Tribes’ Students Can Get Admission In IIM-A By Not Attempting Any Question In CAT

[Roybot]

The Government ain't that stupid.
If you marry a ST guy, only then will your kids be ST. Refer to the Nuremberg laws of 1935 for Classification of Aryans, something similar to that.

Well she is a girl, so obviously she would marry a guy

 

[ExtraOdinary]

In a reply to an RTI inquiry, it was found that the cut off for ST candidates for getting admission into IIM Ahmedabad for the 2013-15 batch was 38.34 percentile. If you don’t attempt any answers in your CAT paper, your score is roughly 55 percentile.

Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad is arguably one of the top management colleges in the country. Every year, more than a hundred thousand students appear for the Common Admission Test (CAT) and it is a well-known fact that for most of these people, IIM-A would be their dream institute.

In the year 2013, 1.73 lakh students appeared for CAT. Now while we all know that CAT has negative marking, the shocking part is that in the yaer 2013, over 95,000 of test takers got zero or negative marks!

IIM Ahmedabad being one of the best colleges, you would assume their cut offs to be amongst the highest and you would be right. The cut offs are generally never declared but they are public knowledge, so you can file an RTI and ask them what the cut offs were. A good samaritan named Mr Deepak Mehta filed it and got a reply as well.

Here is what he got. (Click image to expand.)



The difference between the cut off for a general category student and a ST category student in 2013 is 59.94 percentile! In addition to that, the RTI response is evidential of the fact that the difference has been increasing almost every year.

Is it right to compromise on quality to such an extent? What will be the consequences of having students who are at two different ends of the spectrum in the same class? Imagine the plight of the student who scored 98.27!

If you think this is unjust and to a large extent horrifying then the next revelation will probably make you cry.

What percentile do you think a student would score if s/he did not attempt even one answer on their CAT paper?

55 percentile.

You heard that right!

It means that a student who has ST reservation will get a call from the best management college in the country just for showing up for the entrance exam and stating his/her name.

“A score of ‘0’ in QA and DI equals 53.61 percentile and the same in VA and LR puts a candidate on 57.23 percentile. The overall percentile for a candidate scoring zero in both the section is 55.46 percentile.” [Ref. 1]

A copy of the original score card of the candidate who did not attempt any answers can be found here.

Reservation was started for a purpose. The purpose was to level the playing field. The purpose of keeping the reservation rule has changed. We are continuing with it now because it gets politicians votes. If a politician decides to speak against it, s/he is destined to lose elections.

Is that what we have become? Are we so conditioned to getting handouts that we will protest the cancellation of handouts even if they are doing more harm than good?

What about other institutes like IIM Ahmedabad? Is this how they are treated for building a reputation and working hard to have high standards?

Scheduled Tribes' Students Can Get Admission In IIM-A By Not Attempting Any Question In CAT - Youth Connect

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Being an engineering grad+male+general category is possibly the worst possible combination to have in this country. Especially now they have additional weightage for women (@levina ) and non-engg graduates (better diversity ). Plus 2 minimum years of frikkin work ex also counts. Only if you get 99+ in addition to having decent acads (by decent it means 85%+) in 10th 12th and college (who the hell scores a 8.5+ CG in engineering, this is the minimum requirement for IIM-Shillong) do you stand a chance.

And now I read this. To hell with CAT, GMAT it is.

(PS: I personally know Deepak, was my batchmate in engineering , the guy passed out of IIM-A last year, follow him on quora Deepak Mehta - Quora, funny guy )

 

[Sriram]

but most ST people don't know there are institutions called IIM

 

[AUz]

Reserve seats and special economic and educational uplift should only be for Indian Muslims, who are far behind in India due to discrimination, and anti-Muslim bigotry.

 

[Kesang]

who care about IIM, cat, dog or mouse. I wish that we had same type of reservation in aipmt.

 

[Levina]

Is it right to compromise on quality to such an extent? What will be the consequences of having students who are at two different ends of the spectrum in the same class? Imagine the plight of the student who scored 98.27!

Is it right?- No its wrong.

I am against any kinda reservation in educational institutions.
There should only be scholarships and other financial aids for bright students.IMO
BTW reservation has only increased the awful abyss of space between other castes and SC/ST

 

[livingdead]

not sure why it has gone so low in last two years, its an anomaly, and no real argument against reservation.
reservation for weaker section as an idea is very good, but somehow it got diluted to accomodate everybody.

 

[jarves]

Reserve seats and special economic and educational uplift should only be for Indian Muslims, who are far behind in India due to discrimination, and anti-Muslim bigotry.

No the Muslims are themselves to be balmed for there backwardnes.They send ther children to Madrassas and waste there time in reading the same book 5 times again and again everyday.So its natural they are largely illeterates and backward.

 

[SrNair]

Only a student can understand this


Your children will be counted in General category.

So you are in general category

 

[jarves]

So you are in general category

Are you in in sc/st/obc category??

 

[Manvantaratruti]

Ambedkar has told us that stupidity is due to caste and we can eliminate stupidity by helping them overcome this injustice by helping them screw the rest of us.


That is why her children should have reservation....

And these brahmins children should have No reservation ....

See.....now we can rejoice ...... we have made a perfect society or we are almost there.

 

[SrNair]

But this does'nt change anything.
Few years ago a case is filed in Supreme Court by ST/SC IIT students who got seat in reservation .
There problem is they dont get any favour from IIT and so they cant pass a single exam in IIT Btech course.Most of them leave their IIT education.Factor is due to high quality in IIT these pupils dont get pass mark.So they filed a case in SC.
Cheif Justice of that time is Justice KG Balakrishnan.He ruled out any concession for pass marks from SC .And he also told these students dont have any quality for studying in IIT.

Are you in in sc/st/obc category??

General Category(upper class )

What about you?

 

[Gautam]

Next we Dalits will get Degree (along with a greeting card) from IIM just to turn up in the examination hall

 

[scorpionx]

What next? Reservation in Armed forces?

 

[SrNair]

Reserve seats and special economic and educational uplift should only be for Indian Muslims, who are far behind in India due to discrimination, and anti-Muslim bigotry.

Actually what is in your brain?
Have you ever been in India?
Do you know anything about India?
And who are you to told us about our reservation system in our institutions?
You dont have any educational institution in Pakistan.You must care about them not us .