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Ron Paul: Saudi Arabia Admitted It Created ISIS, CIA Knew About It
October 9, 2016 10:56 am by Ivan Stamenkovic





During his most recent trip to Saudi Arabia, President Barack Obama used the time he had visiting the Saudis to talk about the Iran nuclear deal and Syria. But according to Financial TimesandZero Hedge, there is more to this meeting than news organizations seem to be covering.

According to FT, the Saudis were never able to get over the fact that the US-led invasion of Iraq to topple Saddam Hussein allowed the Shia majority to take over the Arab country. FT explained by saying that, “When Hosni Mubarak was toppled by Egypt’s popular revolt in 2011, Riyadh accused Mr. Obama of betraying a US ally.” As the Saudis began to question“US complacency in the face of Iran’s advances in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen,” Saudi royals allegedly “created Daesh, or ISIS… in response to Obama’s disastrous policy in the region.” Now that Western powers are overly concerned about “ISIS jihadism as the main threat in and from the Middle East,” the Saudis are having none of it.

After Mosul fell to ISIS in 2014, the late Prince Saud al-Faisal who also served as the country’s foreign minister protested with US Secretary of State John Kerry, claiming that “Daesh [ISIS] is our [Sunni] response to your support for the Da’wa,”which stands as the Shia Islamist ruling party of Iraq, which is aligned with Iran.

Dr. Ron Paul used his latest Liberty Report segment to discuss this bombastic piece of news.

He starts by telling Daniel McAdams that, when it comes to Saudi Arabia’s admission of guiltconcerning ISIS, he can’t say he isn’t shocked. He explains:

“We can’t say we aren’t shocked … But this is all in the midst of this legislation going on to try to find out what was on the 9/11 report and why there were 28 pages redacted and most people are very, very suspicious now that Saudi Arabia [admits that it] is very much involved in all this.

“So here, they are beginning to admit it that they have been involved in helping to start ISIS. And the truth is, the evidence is pretty clear too that they don’t do these things without the CIA knowing.

“The CIA either knows … or [anticipates] it. And they were always saying that, seven months ago, ‘we knew about this, we were anticipating that our Pentagon, CIA were involved in this’ and whether or not they were doing everything literally, they very much were involved because to them it’s just logical. You know, ‘why not create ISIS and they will do our dirty work!’

“Our policy is ‘Assad has to go,’ and Americans won’t have to be exposed, but then things happened, unintended consequences. Since then we’ve had the Russians come in, and things aren’t going so well, but [the foreign intervention] is something that has been going on for a long time. This isn’t something brand new, that our CIA creates monsters out there to do such and such that we don’t want to be seen doing, and then, it comes back to haunt us.”

http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/10/ron-paul-saudi-arabia-admitted-created-isis-cia-knew
 
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Who is shocked here? Saudis did create ISIS but it is just one side of the coin. The other side was bred up by Iran as shia militia in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Both Iran and Saudis are like a plague for Muslim world destroying one nation after other for sake of power grab. I am just glad Pakistan for once made a wise decision by not involving themselves in their sectarian mess.
 
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Who is shocked here? Saudis did create ISIS but it is just one side of the coin. The other side was bred up by Iran as shia militia in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Both Iran and Saudis are like a plague for Muslim world destroying one nation after other for sake of power grab. I am just glad Pakistan for once made a wise decision by not involving themselves in their sectarian mess.

Who created ALQ and Taliban?
 
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Who is shocked here? Saudis did create ISIS but it is just one side of the coin. The other side was bred up by Iran as shia militia in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Both Iran and Saudis are like a plague for Muslim world destroying one nation after other for sake of power grab. I am just glad Pakistan for once made a wise decision by not involving themselves in their sectarian mess.

Do you mind if i call them the tumor and cancer in the heart and mind of Islam?
 
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Do you mind if i call them the tumor and cancer in the heart and mind of Islam?
Indeed Turkey is cradle of true wahhabi barbaric Islam especially when it comes to Iraq & Syria oil and gas resources!

http://www.businessinsider.com/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...entary-outlines-turkeys-support-islamic-state

http://warisacrime.org/content/turkey-supports-isis

http://observer.com/2016/02/deal-with-the-devil-turkey-props-up-isis-by-buying-its-stolen-oil/

http://www.politico.eu/article/german-govt-turkey-supports-terror-groups-in-middle-east/

http://www.mintpressnews.com/secret...irms-turkey-helping-isis-sell-its-oil/212228/

http://m.journal-neo.org/2016/02/14/turkey-is-the-source-not-solution-to-isis-and-the-syrian-crisis/

http://newobserveronline.com/leaked-report-links-turkey-isis/

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/0...ws-that-saudi-arabia-and-turkey-support-isis/

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/more-proof-of-turkish-support-for-isis/amp/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ers-key-Syria-border-town-of-Kobane-live.html

http://www.shiapac.org/2014/11/22/german-deputy-speaker-nato-must-stop-turkey-support-for-isis/

http://observer.com/2016/02/deal-with-the-devil-turkey-props-up-isis-by-buying-its-stolen-oil/amp/

http://middleeastpress.com/english/confessions-of-an-isis-commander-on-receiving-turkeys-support/

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/daesh-wa...an-vice-president.453803/page-7#ixzz4MgzXnzI1
 
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Fire away

Thank you for your support and permission :)

The cancer and tumor in the holly religion of Islam:

- Sayyed Qutb theoretically inspired Jihadists, therefore ISIS; However, the same man inspired Mullahs(the regime in Iran) and their proxies, Islamic revolutionary guard corps and Hezbollah.

- IRGC and Hezbollah were established on the idea of Dynamic Islam, which is put forward by Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, this guy wrote 2 books, “The Islamic Dynamism” (Al Harikiyya Al Islamiyya), and “Islam and the Logic of Power” (Al Islam Wa Mantiq Al Quwwa), these 2 books are simply copy of Sayyed Qutb. But with a difference they were re-written by Shiite understanding.

- With the book of Sayyed Qutb, Jihadists were born; however, The same book re-written for Shiite understanding let Hezbollah, IRGC, Kassam Suleimani, Hasan Abbasi like groups and people.

-In 1993 Ayman Al-Zawahiri did trained Al-Qaeda terrorists in IRGC and Hezbollah camps in Beqa. I repeat that The date is 1993.

-In 1993, Also Bin Laden met with Imad Mughniya in Sudan, If you wonder who this guy is , please google him.

- Jihadits and Shiites with proxies are the sons of the same father from different mothers, and similarly they bring chaos, death, shame and most importantly hate for Islam.
 
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Do you mind if i call them the tumor and cancer in the heart and mind of Islam?

Absolutely. No country has damaged Islam and Muslims than Saudi Arabia or House of Saud. Read their history right from the time they allowed to be used by British to dismember Ottoman Empire and how they have used religion in service of the British Empire and now US imperialism.
 
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last week somebody posted syrian vice president interview blaming iran for isis.
few months ago iranians posted similar interviews blaming US for ISIS.
yesterday hillary clinton blamed russia for isis.

its indian style of blaming other for your mistakes.
the truth is US,UK,iran,saudis and iraqis themselves have all added factors to the formation of a hardline sunni organization.
 
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The Iranians were slaves to the Russian, British in WW1 to bring down the true Islamic Ottomans. Now, they're doing the same in 2016.
Muslim world has had enough of their traitorous ways!
 
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What about Pakistan?
We can't abandon Pashtuns in afghansistan, no matter what their creed is------

The Iranians were slaves to the Russian, British in WW1 to bring down the true Islamic Ottomans. Now, they're doing the same in 2016.
Muslim world has had enough of their traitorous ways!
Turks are great but ottomans had to go one way or the other like other kingdoms -------
 
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Who is shocked here? Saudis did create ISIS but it is just one side of the coin. The other side was bred up by Iran as shia militia in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen. Both Iran and Saudis are like a plague for Muslim world destroying one nation after other for sake of power grab. I am just glad Pakistan for once made a wise decision by not involving themselves in their sectarian mess.
So you are comparing ISIL to Iraqi Shia militia right?
Would you tell me if it was not Iranian support for the militia against ISIL, what would have happened in Middle East, including your own country?
 
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