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Saudis 'eye Pakistani nukes' to face Iran

Didn't know Pakistani's loved the ottoman empire so much

FYI the only other Muslims who supported the Turks both morally and materially in their war of independence were the founders of the modern State of Pakistan and its people, women gave their jewelry to help fund the Turkish war effort. For us, Turkey was the only Muslim power that could counterbalance the influence of the British, and after the fall of the Ottoman empire a lot of people wept day and night over the loss of the last Muslim empire, of course that wouldn't matter to you Arabs much since you gifted Palestine to the British.

Long live Pak-Turkey friendship and brotherhood.
 
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FYI the only other Muslims who supported the Turks both morally and materially in their war of independence were the founders of the modern State of Pakistan and its people, women gave their jewelry to help fund the Turkish war effort. For us, Turkey was the only Muslim power that could counterbalance the influence of the British, and after the fall of the Ottoman empire a lot of people wept day and night over the loss of the last Muslim empire, of course that wouldn't matter to you Arabs much since you gifted Palestine to the British.

Long live Pak-Turkey friendship and brotherhood.

I think your highly over emotional the Ottoman Empire was fine empire, but the Nationalism not only from Arabs, But KURDS and ARMENIANS, the country was weakened because the society was backwards, the Ottomans were the sick of Europe, the war in the balkans with Russia and Greece, when they had a been driven out of the Balkans it was a psychological defeat for them. They were weakened but the biggest Issue was they entered the first world war, if they did not maybe it would have been different.
 
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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates, Sept. 15 (UPI) -- Saudi Arabia has been beefing up its military links with Pakistan to counter Iran's expansionist plans and this reportedly includes acquiring atomic arms from the only Muslim nuclear power or its pledge of nuclear cover.

Pakistan has become a front-line state for Sunni Islam and is being positioned by its leaders, particularly in the powerful military and intelligence establishments, as a bulwark against Shiite Iran and its proxies.

Increasingly, Pakistan is rushing to the defense of Saudi Arabia, with whom it has a long had discreet security links. It is reported to have put two army divisions on standby for deployment to Saudi Arabia if the kingdom is threatened by Iran or the pro-democracy uprisings sweeping the Arab world.

It is even reported to be prepared to provide Saudi Arabia with nuclear weapons if threatened by Iran. In return, it has been promised Saudi Arabian oil and treasure.

The Saudis have portrayed the roiling rivalry with the Iranians as a new, menacing chapter of the 1,300-year-old struggle between Sunni and Shiite Islam.

"The stakes are enormous," says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist.

"Pakistan has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world. It will soon surpass the United Kingdom as the fifth-largest nuclear arsenal. It is the sixth-largest country in the world in terms of population," Riedel wrote in the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel.

"It will soon surpass Indonesia as the country with the largest Muslim population."

The Saudis have long had close relations with Pakistan and there have been persistent reports that they, and other Persian Gulf states, have funded Islamabad's nuclear arms program for decades.

It is widely held in the Middle East that if Iran does produce nuclear weapons Pakistan will provide the Saudis with weapons from Islamabad's stockpile.

The Saudis have had close links with Abdul Qadeer Khan, father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb who provided nuclear expertise to Iran, Libya and North Korea until he was exposed in 2003.

The Pakistanis insist Khan, a revered national hero in his homeland, was acting on his own. But it is generally accepted that his "nuclear supermarket" couldn't have functioned without official approval.

Khan has admitted visiting Saudi Arabia as many as 50 times over the years and hosted Saudi officials visiting Pakistan several times.

"Given these connections, including persistent reports that the Saudis helped finance Pakistan's nuclear program, the kingdom's proximity to Iran, and its concern about the rise of (Shiite) transnationalism, Saudi Arabia is included on most analysts' list of countries likely to consider nuclear weapons as a security hedge if Iran acquires them," the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London observed in a 2006 analysis.

Concerns about Saudi plans to buy ready-made nuclear weapons, rather than go through the lengthy and verifiable process of developing their own, were raised in June 1994.

A Saudi defector, Mohammed Khilewi, the No. 2 official in the Saudi mission to the United Nations in New York, claimed Riyadh had paid up to $5 billion to Saddam Hussein to build it a nuclear weapon.

Khilewi, an expert in nuclear proliferation who was the Saudi delegate to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, had produced 13,000 documents to support his claim the kingdom engaged in a secret 20-year effort to acquire nuclear weapons, first with Iraq, which Riyadh backed in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, and then with Pakistan.

Khilewi's documents showed that Riyadh helped bankroll Pakistan's clandestine nuclear project and signed a pact that in the event Saudi Arabia was attacked with nuclear weapons, Islamabad would respond against the aggressor with its own nuclear arms.

The Wall Street Journal and Britain's Guardian daily said a leading Saudi royal, Prince Turki al-Faisal, warned U.S. and British military commanders meeting outside London June 8 that if Tehran didn't curtail its nuclear program, Riyadh would seek nuclear weapons of its own.

Iranian acquisition of nuclear arms, the prince said, "would compel Saudi Arabia … to pursue policies which could lead to untold and possibly dramatic consequences."

Turki, who headed Saudi Arabia's General Intelligence Directorate in 1977-2001, didn't spell out what those consequences might be but a senior official in Riyadh observed, "We cannot live in a situation where Iran has nuclear weapons and we don't.

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Saudis 'eye Pakistani nukes' to face Iran - UPI.com

Now this is bullshit , i am talking about the "claimed Riyadh had paid up to $5 billion to Saddam Hussein to build it a nuclear weapon " part

During 90's Iraq attacked Kuwait as a result many middle east states including Saudia were under pressure and threatened of a possible attack form Iraq on Saudia Arabia for that they negotiated with the US military and brought them in for their defence against Iraq. Now in this situation how can Saudi invest or pay $5 billion to Iraq that too for making nuclear weapons . Even an insane can't do it . Its like india giving $5billion to Pakistan to develop nuclear weapons
 
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This article is BS, we have kept this thread alive with jokes and highly emotional people lolz it was fun.

---------- Post added at 04:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:49 PM ----------

Go back and read most of the comments it was fun, best fun I have had on PAK defence, lolz
 
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I think your highly over emotional

So stating facts is being "emotional", great logic on your part, if i'm "emotional" then you must be very very "emotional" considering how much you defended that tyrannical regime of Syria that is hell bent on killing its own people before "marching" on Tel Aviv :lol::tup::disagree:
 
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If there is another war with the Zi0nists entity will Saudi troops be marching with us to Tel Aviv ?

:rofl:, and when will you be marching to tel aviv? and under which flag? I've been hearing the same rhetoric along these lines for quite some time now, its just getting old.
 
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If the Arabs clowns are fighting each other or backbitting in favor of West, there is another available option on the table------Pakistan should conquer all Arabs states to become Pakistan Empires! :azn:
 
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Now your talking. that should solve our power shortges.:rofl:

Yeees! It is our dream, real dream! Useless Arabs must obey/bow to Pakistan Empire if they wish to work together under the name of second Ottoman Empire or seeking protection of nukes........Pakistan is peace with all friends but Arabs are against each other for stupid reasons.

I am waiting for the day of nuclear-armed Pakistan Empire to control all emotional of Arabs/backstabbing, final solutions!!! :D
 
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Paper: Saudis Offer Russia Deal To Break with Iran
Paper: Saudis Offer Russia Deal To Break with Iran - Defense News

MOSCOW - Saudi Arabia has offered to buy Russian arms worth $2.4 billion (1.5 billion euros) if Moscow stops supporting Iran, a Russian newspaper reported July 15, citing diplomatic sources.

"The kingdom's government advised Moscow to cut back its cooperation with Tehran, and in exchange it held out the prospect of profitable contracts with Saudi Arabia," the daily business newspaper Kommersant wrote.

A spokesman for Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin denied the report.

"Any claims that military-technical cooperation between Russia and Saudi Arabia is in any way linked to Russian-Iranian dialogue are inappropriate and do not correspond to reality," the Interfax news agency quoted Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying.

The newspaper report came one day after Putin met with the secretary-general of Saudi Arabia's Security Council, Prince Bandar bin Sultan.

Citing sources in Russia's defense industry, the newspaper said Saudi Arabia was ready to buy at least 100 BMP-3 combat vehicles, 150 T-90 tanks and 160 Mi-17, Mi-26 and Mi-35 helicopters.

Kommersant put the total value of the equipment at about $2.4 billion.

Moscow has opposed stiffer international sanctions on Iran for its nuclear program, which Tehran says is civilian in nature.

Relations between Russia and Saudi Arabia - a traditional U.S. ally - have warmed considerably in recent years.

Saudi Arabia is worst country in central of Islamic country to destroy other muslim countries. How can Pakistan intervene Saudia matters or make them slaves? :angry:

150 T-90 tanks, not AlKhalid tanks?
 
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end of the day this proves the fact there is no ummah there cant be unity in the name of religion cant be one , it obvious that saudis etc have funded our nuke program etc and we are yet to pay for those no good garbage bombs
 
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FYI the only other Muslims who supported the Turks both morally and materially in their war of independence were the founders of the modern State of Pakistan and its people, women gave their jewelry to help fund the Turkish war effort. For us, Turkey was the only Muslim power that could counterbalance the influence of the British, and after the fall of the Ottoman empire a lot of people wept day and night over the loss of the last Muslim empire, of course that wouldn't matter to you Arabs much since you gifted Palestine to the British.

Long live Pak-Turkey friendship and brotherhood.


Excellent comment brother! May Allah swt be pleased with true muslims like you who know their true history, know their friends and foes!

FOREVER PAK-TURK brotherhood insallah!
 
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Assalam alaikum

oh boy had to read all pages

SilentNinja bhai, we pakistanies committed mistakes then our bangladeshi brother who were supporters of pakistan had to brake away from us. u r just accusing the arabs for lose of palestine and khilafat, i must remind u that it was those arabs who first liberated palestine and brought to us this concept of khilafah. see now the same turks when tried to speak about the muslims and ordogan is repsected more than arab leaders in arab world ( really i live with arabs they say it openly we will rather like to be ruled by ordogan then our leader ). so just calm down we all made mistakes

some of our brothers r saying muslms will not go fighting each other this is right but sometimes they go against each other did we forget iran, iraq war?

some of our brothers claimed shia sunni wil not fight may i remind u when othamans used to goto europe the safvies used to attack their terrritories and the khalifah would bring his troops to take back the land? safvies did take baghdad in one occasion and killed all sunnies and when murad iv took it back he killed all the shia ( maybe i got then name wrong )

Abu zoulfiqar bhai yes most of the saudies have this impression that they have contributed to pak nuclear development but they will not remember or acknowledge that our thousand troops were on their soil in 80' to defend them. while i tell them pakistanies were going to have this bomb by any way but saudies could not have a turstworth partnter like us and we defended them at very cheap price.

pakistanies should calm the situation between iran and saudia and i know they both r not gonna attack each other saudies can't do it and iranies r not that stupid to make all the arabs against them and bring all the sunnies from all over the world to fight them.

Pak marine bhai,

the ummah was there under othamans only safvies were out of it.

Guys i don't what's wrong with u, we fought with indians, when we got independece from india we had many who got killed by them and many girls were raped but we don't treat the indians so badly as u guys r treating mosa? this young guy is trying very hard and u ppl don't give him a break

kuch mahman nawazi bhi to dikhain

TARIQ
 
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