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Mithridates said:
lol i don't even know why I'm replying on you. it's like you are in the i will not understand it mode.
dude Iraqi fighters lost in the war was 3 times bigger than our whole fleet, they were allowed to gas our ground units, for example they gassed 3 brigades stationed in Iraqi Kurdistan preparing to take out Baghdad. they almost didn't felt economic blow back duo to PGCC financial support.
there was no US support of us they sold us limited number of missiles with 3x price, because of Iraqi threat to Israel not because of good of their heart. in the last years of war most of our fleet was grounded because of lack of spares.
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Can you just answer one question - if Iraq was so strong in weaponry, why did the war end in stalemate? How did Iran manage to fend off Iraq if Iraq had full backing of USA and none supported Iran in any way?

I am not denying that USA helped Iraq with fighter jets, spares and even chemical weapons but USA didn't directly supply USA made weapons. USA supplied Russian weapons with other friendly countries like Egypt, Israel etc to Iraq. That is why Iraq didn't fight with weapons like F5, F14 or F16. If USA really wanted, they could have supplied Iraq with these weapons to crush Iran. But as I said, USA objectives was to balance power and cause stalemate situation for long time. Iraq was small and week hence USA supplied then with enough arms to cause stalemate with Iran. Iran was competent and hence could make do with its inventory and some more supplies and hence only that much was given to balance.
 
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Smarana Mitra said:
Can you just answer one question - if Iraq was so strong in weaponry, why did the war end in stalemate? How did Iran manage to fend off Iraq if Iraq had full backing of USA and none supported Iran in any way?

I am not denying that USA helped Iraq with fighter jets, spares and even chemical weapons but USA didn't directly supply USA made weapons. USA supplied Russian weapons with other friendly countries like Egypt, Israel etc to Iraq. That is why Iraq didn't fight with weapons like F5, F14 or F16. If USA really wanted, they could have supplied Iraq with these weapons to crush Iran. But as I said, USA objectives was to balance power and cause stalemate situation for long time. Iraq was small and week hence USA supplied then with enough arms to cause stalemate with Iran. Iran was competent and hence could make do with its inventory and some more supplies and hence only that much was given to balance.
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1.Iraq was a Soviet client.

2.Iraq didn't need much of air to air capability, cause most of the Iranian fighter jets were out of service, Iraq needed air to ground capability and so was fully armed in this regard, their fighter jets were rulling battle field skies.

3.yet since West didn't want to be left behind in killing Iranian, France gave it's fighter jets to Iraq too which even Iranian F14 were absolute against their EW capabilities.
+ Intelligence support
+ Chemical weapons
+ Anti ship missiles
+ Anti radar missiles
+ Direct escort of Iraqi ships

So no, it wasn't a balance.

Iran's sole advantage was committed human factor and asymmetric warfare.
 
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mohsen said:
1.Iraq was a Soviet client.

2.Iraq didn't need much of air to air capability, cause most of the Iranian fighter jets were out of service, Iraq needed air to ground capability and so was fully armed in this regard, their fighter jets were rulling battle field skies.

3.yet since West didn't want to be left behind in killing Iranian, France gave it's fighter jets to Iraq too which even Iranian F14 were absolute against their EW capabilities.
+ Intelligence support
+ Chemical weapons
+ Anti ship missiles
+ Anti radar missiles
+ Direct escort of Iraqi ships

So no, it wasn't a balance.

Iran's sole advantage was committed human factor and asymmetric warfare.
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If your described advantage of Iraq was so massive, what stopped Iraq from massacring Iranians and conquering Iranian territory? How much can mere human factor stop technological assault? If Iran had nothing to defend, then it would be crushed. One can't fight with guns alone against higher order enemy powers like tanks, aircrafts etc.
 
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Smarana Mitra said:
If your described advantage of Iraq was so massive, what stopped Iraq from massacring Iranians and conquering Iranian territory? How much can mere human factor stop technological assault? If Iran had nothing to defend, then it would be crushed. One can't fight with guns alone against higher order enemy powers like tanks, aircrafts etc.
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Look at yemenis who are way less armed comparing to Iran of that era, yet they are advancing inside KSA.

Their country is divided (unlike Iran) and fully sanctioned, not even oil, they have no tank, no air force, after few years jet a basic air defense, yet Saudis and their allies can't defeat them.
 
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historical context


Saudi political military analyst Nayef Al-Vaqa memeber of King Khalid Military College Council: our DF-3 missile which is also capable of carrying 3 megaton destruction power on impact will take out half of Tehran in Iran

 
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Smarana Mitra said:
I am talking of the technology availability. Scaling is of least concern as the technology to make semiconductor is extremely automated that if you can make 10 of it, scaling is easy. But the problem is with technology t make the nodes in nanometre size. Even countries like Russia only has upto 90nm and India has 180nm. China is struggling to upgrade its 28nm to 22 and 14nm.

I know that military does not use anything below 90nm due to reliability issues. Most missiles are having 1um chip while fighter jets have 180nm to 90nm chip. Nevertheless, making even 1um chip is hard. Very few countries have the technology to make such sophisticated fabrication in micrometer scale.

If Iran is destroyed by bombing, Iranian imported chipset devices will also be destroyed and due to lack of technology, it will be impossible to rebuild computers to make machinery, banks and social service system without imports.
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Nope, China has now started its own production of 14nm, and can supply Iran at any time.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/296802-chinese-foundry-smic-begins-14nm-production
 
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soon Pakistan will pay price, as well
the time of having immunity is gone

 
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