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I can express my opinion openly even if you don't like it. I am simply advocating that Arab issues are more important than Muslim issues for ARABs and I could care less if you agree with me.
No, you speak with a "Muslim" pov... as you did previously... by using that "Arab" identity in hope to maintain some sort of legitimacy of your opinion...
You can play that game with newcomers... ain't working on me... it stinks miles away...

So yes... you can express opinion on an "Arab" standpoint... but you can forget the "Muslim" one... or just accept the truth and say your shahada... We will accept you but more importantly you will gain a place in heaven... But that's another story... for you to chose.
 
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No, you speak with a "Muslim" pov... as you did previously... by using that "Arab" identity in hope to maintain some sort of legitimacy of your opinion...
You can play that game with newcomers... ain't working on me... it stinks miles away...

So yes... you can express opinion on an "Arab" standpoint... but you can forget the "Muslim" one... or just accept the truth and say your shahada... We will accept you but more importantly you will gain a place in heaven... But that's another story... for you to chose.
I speak in general for other people to follow, I am not saying anything in my POV.

I'm not some president, or prime minister and I have no power. My opinions mean nothing so ignore them. I will keep on saying what I like for now.
 
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I speak in general for other people to follow, I am not saying anything in my POV.

I'm not some president, or prime minister and I have no power. My opinions mean nothing so ignore them. I will keep on saying what I like for now.
As long as you speak on a "Muslim" pov that you have no legitimacy on... I will answer back...
So yes you can say whatever you want at the end of the day... but Remember that from this day... whoever will read you... will know that you aren't what you indirectly wish us to believe... an "Arab Muslim"

And as @CamelGuy said... Arabitisation comes with Islamisation...
 
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He is a bit too extreme in that manner. I would rather see a Christian Arab have 20 kids than have 0 kids and become Muslim.
See... poke the little bird...he will tell you his name...

You my Friend... just gave up your cards... at the first bluff...

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See @CamelGuy when I told you "Not an any cost..." That first... you need to build a strong base and then expand... till then... it would not be possible...
We need to clean the good from the rotten pcs among us even if it means to lose a card or two... it may be appealing in the short term but in the long term... we could lose everything that we wished to build...
 
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See... poke the little bird...he will tell you his name...

You my Friend... just gave up your cards... at the first bluff...
I have different ideals then him, no two people are going to be the same. I never stated I had the same ideals as him. Let's be honest, he would probably agree with me on this matter so let me @ him.


@CamelGuy

Would you rather see a Muslim Arab have 0 kids or a Christian Arab have 20 kids and stay Christian? Assume he spreads Arabism and stay loyal to it and doesn't become like these Westerners.
 
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charismatic visionary cheer leader

regards
 
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Saudi FM to land in Pakistan in a charm offensive
By Kamran Yousaf
Published: December 25, 2019
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Prince Faisal to convey that Riyadh values its ‘long-term strategic partnership’ with Pakistan. PHOTO: AFP/FILE

ISLAMABAD: The Saudi foreign minister is expected to pay a daylong visit to Islamabad on Thursday in what appears to be a damage control exercise in the wake of the Kuala Lumpur summit which Pakistan announced not to attend at the eleventh hour under what Turkish president termed Saudi threats.

Prime Minister Imran Khan had accepted Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad’s invitation to the summit which was held from Dec 18 to 21 to offer “an international platform for Muslim leaders, intellectuals and scholars…to discuss, exchange ideas about the issues revolving in the Muslim world.”

However, Pakistan suddenly pulled out of the moot after Prime Minister Imran’s visit to Riyadh.
A Turkish newspaper later quoted President Recep Tayyib Erdogan as saying that Pakistan was pressured to stay away from the moot in which leaders of Malaysia, Turkey, Iran and Qatar participated.

Erdogan had ‘unveiled’ that Saudi Arabia threatened Pakistan to withdraw its financial assistance as well as to expel millions of its workers if it attended the gathering of Muslim leaders in Malaysian capital.

Saudis pressure forced Pakistan to skip KL summit: Erdogan

Following the Turkish newspaper report, Pakistan’s foreign office issued a brief statement saying that Islamabad did not participate in the Kuala Lumpur summit because time and efforts were needed to address the concerns of major Muslim countries, regarding possible division in the Ummah.

Saudi Arabia however dismissed the claim as ‘baseless’ and insisted that its relationship with Pakistan is beyond the realm of threats. The Saudi Embassy in a statement had also clarified that Riyadh neither threatened nor stopped Islamabad from attending the KL summit.

Sources in the Foreign Office, nevertheless, conceded that Pakistan’s decision to stay away from the summit stemmed from the Saudi reservations. They said the PM had travelled to Riyadh to assure Saudi Arabia that Pakistan’s participation in the summit would not undermine Saudi interests.

However, the Saudis were not convinced as they viewed the gathering of key Muslim leaders as an attempt to create a new Islamic bloc. Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad had dismissed the assertions, insisting that the KL summit had nothing to do with raising a new bloc in the Muslim world.

PM Office ‘vetoed’ FO advice on Malaysia summit

Pakistan’s decision at the last minute to walk away from the summit discredited the country both internationally and domestically. What compounded the Pakistani problem was the public statement of the Turkish president which also put Saudi Arabia in a bad light.

Diplomatic sources said Saudi Arabia never wants to lose the public support it enjoys in Pakistan and Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Faisal bin Farhan bin Abdullah is believed to be visiting Islamabad to dispel such an impression.

The Saudi Foreign Minister will meet Pakistan’s top civil and military leadership and convey a message that Riyadh values its ‘long-term strategic partnership with Pakistan,’ according to sources.

Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates are the first countries, which extended financial bailout packages for the government of Prime Minister Imran Khan to deal with the balance of payment crisis last year.

This fiscal support and presence of millions of Pakistanis in both countries, who send annual US$9 billion in remittances, are considered to be a decisive factor in Pakistan preferring Riyadh over the KL summit.


Read more: KL summit , Latest , Malaysia
This journalist is a patwari by birth.. I know him very well
 
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Where were they when Pakistan was in conflict with India, and India was being invited to OIC. Or where were they for Kashmir.

Don't be so dumbfounded. They are only protecting their business interests.
At least they lend you money when Pakistan economy is near collapse. Did Turkey even lend Pakistan a single cent for its economy?

What has Turkey did for Pakistan Kashmir so far? Did it bomb India for Pakistan Kashmir or the sake of Pakistan?

So far its all lips service by Turkey which any small countries can also do it without burning a hole in their pocket or loses a single man. All talk and no action.
 
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At least they lend you money when Pakistan economy is near collapse. Did Turkey even lend Pakistan a single cent for its economy?

What has Turkey did for Pakistan Kashmir so far? Did it bomb India for Pakistan Kashmir or the sake of Pakistan?

So far its all lips service by Turkey which any small countries can also do it without burning a hole in their pocket or loses a single man. All talk and no action.

America has given us more money than China has and yet we respect China more.

The thing here is Respect vs Master/Slave relationship.

Ofcourse, we are responsible for it too, infact, more than the other party.
 
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It's funny how us Pakistani are so naive
We are behaving as if we're sitting on a gold mine
Saudia has done more for us than we've done for them
They day they decide to send back our labour force will be the day Pakistan's economy would collapse
No other country is willing to provide our youth with jobs
Neither are they willing to give us money for our survival or free oil to push our nuclear program
So kindly grow up & Don't put out immature statements just cause we're jealous of their wealth
 
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America has given us more money than China has and yet we respect China more.

The thing here is Respect vs Master/Slave relationship.

Ofcourse, we are responsible for it too, infact, more than the other party.
No, China has provided more money than US. The CPEC development alone dwarf any deal US combine for past 50 years.
 
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May his plane crash on the way.

Lannat on Saudi pigs.
 
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