Saudi FM visiting Pakistan on Thursday, sources claim

[Baz]

The FM is not Charming at all

 

[925boy]

That is actually a vicious cycle we are stuck in. People don't want to pay their share because of the concerns you shared and which aren't false either. However, without taxes, we will be knocking on the IMF's door again. Without a strong economy, we will always be treated like slaves.

Only harsh truths detected.

the russians are too close to iran & syria to be trusted.

I think you meant to say

the russians are too close to India & syria to be trusted.

 

[BATMAN]

What for? Do more demands?

I assume Imran Khan, complaint you about the Do More Demands?
Otherwise what you state is propaganda on behalf of.... ????

You know that's not Possible bro ..

What's not possible... we have free oil from KSA many times in history. Recently we got $ 3 billion oil on deffered payments and $3 billion cash.
As well in history, we took aid of $ millions in cash or infrastructure development.
There as well, we could ask for oil instead.
Problem with Pakistani labor is that IRGC can easily get Pakistani passport and come disguise as Pakistanis, because NADRA is full of Iranian agents, thanks to Asif Ali Zardari.
Secondly Pakistanis smuggle heroin to GCC and our politicians ask for pardon.

Besides oil, lesser population is also a factor.

Saudia is 2.3 times bigger than Pakistan in terms of land area while their population is only 33 million out of which 19 millions are locals. Imagine their population at 2.3 times higher than Pakistan at 500 million and then see even oil won't work for them or atleast not in a way it is working right now. lol

Lesser population is not helping in their case.... they are losing $ billions annually in forex. Which if remain in their own country would drive an industrial revolution, no one has ever witnessed in the region.
There's a reason, why Canada, US and European countries take in skilled /qualified foreigners.
As the time pass, there dependency on foreign labor will be minimal and they are diversifying the labor as well.

They have monarchy. Pakistan, on the other hand. Democracy is the Best Revenge.

Their monarchy doesn't mean day to day business is controlled by King.
They have institutions, which are run by the public. They have union councils, who have lots of duties. Federal institutes have very little to do with public affairs, beside ministry of interior.
Public is happy, unlike many other oil rich countries of the region... still where do you think improvement is required?

I guess some will see progress now they are in bed with israel which will make them develop further.

How you reach to the conclusion? Do you think it was Israel's idea to destroy Iranian missiles heading to destroy Mecca and rest of the infrastructure?
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...bia-shoots-down-ballistic-missiles-near-mecca

All this is because of our Ch**** awam does not want to pay their taxes and our Hara*i Politicians are hell-bent on destroying our country through corruption, nepotism, and other means. It is really hard to think of one institution in Pakistan which puts Pakistan first, before their own "Personal interests".

We are destined to be this unless we put our house in order and take some hard measures.

Pakistan is the highly taxed country in the world.... if we look at the tax spending, it appears that Pakistan govt. extort money instead of tax for betterment of public.
Hypothetically speaking, even if Pakistani politicians start charging tax in $, they cannot develop knowledge to produce a single govt. hospital as they do have in KSA.
In any case,,, good to see, Saudi FM visit is triggering comparative study.

 

[Trango Towers]

I assume Imran Khan, complaint you about the Do More Demands?
Otherwise what you state is propaganda on behalf of.... ????


What's not possible... we have free oil from KSA many times in history. Recently we got $ 3 billion oil on deffered payments and $3 billion cash.
As well in history, we took aid of $ millions in cash or infrastructure development.
There as well, we could ask for oil instead.
Problem with Pakistani labor is that IRGC can easily get Pakistani passport and come disguise as Pakistanis, because NADRA is full of Iranian agents, thanks to Asif Ali Zardari.
Secondly Pakistanis smuggle heroin to GCC and our politicians ask for pardon.



Lesser population is not helping in their case.... they are losing $ billions annually in forex. Which if remain in their own country would drive an industrial revolution, no one has ever witnessed in the region.
There's a reason, why Canada, US and European countries take in skilled /qualified foreigners.
As the time pass, there dependency on foreign labor will be minimal and they are diversifying the labor as well.



Their monarchy doesn't mean day to day business is controlled by King.
They have institutions, which are run by the public. They have union councils, who have lots of duties. Federal institutes have very little to do with public affairs, beside ministry of interior.
Public is happy, unlike many other oil rich countries of the region... still where do you think improvement is required?



How you reach to the conclusion? Do you think it was Israel's idea to destroy Iranian missiles heading to destroy Mecca and rest of the infrastructure?
https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...bia-shoots-down-ballistic-missiles-near-mecca

So why did u edit my post and link it to attack on mecca? This shows your intention. Stop sucking up to arabs or Iranian or Israeli. If you are going to put a point across DO NOT EDIT POST to suit your agenda. That's what sh1tty people do. I thought you were better. Disappointed

 

[BATMAN]

So why did u edit my post and link it to attack on mecca? This shows your intention. Stop sucking up to arabs or Iranian or Israeli. If you are going to put a point across DO NOT EDIT POST to suit your agenda. That's what sh1tty people do. I thought you were better. Disappointed

Stating facts is not sucking... Sucking is when pdf members give justification for the existence of Chabahar port, on behalf of RAW. etc. etc.
I don't remember much about Israel discussions here, unless you tribe have hidden agenda..... that's what puppy people do.
I never thought you were better... you always spread lies about Pakistan's friendly countries, who have recently saved Pakistan from bankruptcy by lending $6 billion on short notice, which is definately a disappointment for Pakistan's enemies, as well never appreciated by the boogies of pdf. incl. Sheriyar Afridi type ministers PTI, who stated Saudi wealth belong to Umma. May be Dubai wealth also belong to Umma! right?

TELL ME, how many of today's generation of Pakistani would work for pennies for a better tomorrow?

With all due respect, problem of Pakistan is waste and waste come from poor planning and corruption.
Poor planning comes from lack of knowledge and aspiring for best quality.
Corruption comes from poverty, public belief system, and most of above the ineptness of ruling elite.
As they say, if you want to destroy a nation appoint an idiot as their ruler, which is the core issue in Pakistan, besides money laundering.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Their monarchy doesn't mean day to day business is controlled by King.
They have institutions, which are run by the public. They have union councils, who have lots of duties. Federal institutes have very little to do with public affairs, beside ministry of interior.
Public is happy, unlike many other oil rich countries of the region... still where do you think improvement is required?

The politics of Saudi Arabia takes place in the context of a totalitarian[1][2][3] absolute monarchywith Islamist lines, where the King is both the head of state and government. Decisions are, to a large extent, made on the basis of consultation among the senior princes of the royal family and the religious establishment.

Hope this helps.

 

[Dubious]

full steam ahead in our own oil & gas extraction, where does that leave the importance of the saudis?

Yes Saudi too can be replaced...

To go full steam ahead we need money and brains!

The politics of Saudi Arabia takes place in the context of a totalitarian[1][2][3] absolute monarchywith Islamist lines, where the King is both the head of state and government. Decisions are, to a large extent, made on the basis of consultation among the senior princes of the royal family and the religious establishment.

Hope this helps.

wiki is not an absolute source!

 

[GumNaam]

Yes Saudi too can be replaced...

To go full steam ahead we need money and brains!

China has both.

 

[BATMAN]

The politics of Saudi Arabia takes place in the context of a totalitarian[1][2][3] absolute monarchywith Islamist lines, where the King is both the head of state and government. Decisions are, to a large extent, made on the basis of consultation among the senior princes of the royal family and the religious establishment.

Hope this helps.

Ignorant stuff and what better place can be off load other than pdf.
Let me give you small briefing, before you try it at any forum with Saudi presence or with presence of those Pakistanis who have lived in KSA anytime in past 50-60 years:

King only comes into the picture, when a Pakistani regime request Saudi Arabian King to break the law of his own state, and free criminals arrested for crimes. Besides this there's hardly any situation, where interference of Monarchy is required in running public offices.
If a Prince omit a crime, he will be treated same as a Pakistani or Indian expat., committing a crime.
As far Islamist lines are concerned, it's hard to decide what's Islamic for who and what's not.
Murder is punishable in both Islamic and non Islamic states...traffic and visa violations trials don't fall under Islamic lines.
There's however a condition of ''moderate'' dress code. Now this is loose and in case of dispute judge will decided the limits. again, monarchy is no where to be seen from murder to dress code violation.

 

[Dubious]

Personal attack by a mod. Now how would you feel if I called you dumb?

Dumb is not a personal attack...If you feel so then you wont survive on this planet!

China has both.

And that is a dangerous walk down that lane!

Since it has both it can also take a different dive!

You reported me to @waz @WebMaster.

So that they have eyes on you and dont just side you every time you lie (for the weak heart = every time you pretend to be "attacked")

 

[GumNaam]

And that is a dangerous walk down that lane!

Since it has both it can also take a different dive!

Not necessarily...China needs all the oil & gas it could get, that makes them the perfect customer whose business we can take away from the saudis.

 

[Dubious]

Not necessarily...China needs all the oil & gas it could get, that makes them the perfect customer whose business we can take away from the saudis.

Yea but why buy from us unless we give it cheaper?
That is a loss if we sell cheaper! An extra loss if we are forced to sell majority cheaply to them!
And an additional loss if only their people/ equipment is used and not our people!

 

[BATMAN]

To go full steam ahead we need money and brains!

Brains are always available for rent, all what needed is knowledge of your mistakes and leaks.
In case of Pakistan, if we start investing money without fixing leaks... no amount of brain or money will help.

 

[Dubious]

Brains are always available for rent, all what needed is knowledge of your mistakes and leaks.
In case of Pakistan, if we start investing money without fixing leaks... no amount of brain or money will help.

agreed!

 

[GumNaam]

Yea but why buy from us unless we give it cheaper?
That is a loss if we sell cheaper! An extra loss if we are forced to sell majority cheaply to them!
And an additional loss if only their people/ equipment is used and not our people!

Our people provide the brunt of the oil rigs' labor force while ogdc personnel provide mid tier engineers and technicians while China provides the equipment and financing. Chinese won't do the labor jobs any more. And they'll buy from us for one simple reason...CONTINUITY! Middle east is unstable at best and that always keeps China on the edge as energy (oil and gas) is their ONLY weak point.