Saudi Arabian Air, Land, Naval Forces & SANG

[Rakan.SA]

Buy Fremms

i wish they would do the deal with france but im sure the americans are putting some pressure.

hey how about you talk to Hollande and convince him to sell us 6 of these babies

 

[Rakan.SA]

new images of the saudi F-15SA

 

[Rakan.SA]

new images of the saudi F-15SA

 

[Rakan.SA]

 

[Mosamania]

The F-15SA even looks different from any other F-15 out there. The wings seem shorter from the swollen fuselage. The fuselage looks more aerodynamic, it is a whole different airplane all together.

 

[Rakan.SA]

The F-15SA even looks different from any other F-15 out there. The wings seem shorter from the swollen fuselage. The fuselage looks more aerodynamic, it is a whole different airplane all together.

what i really wanna know what's the difference between our planes and singapore and korea.

 

[Mosamania]

what i really wanna know what's the difference between our planes and singapore and korea.

Fly-by-wire. DEWS electronic warfare system (used in F-35). The APG-63 (V)3 radar will have the capability of both jamming and detecting simultaneously which means it is really the APG-82 (V) 1, but the sources still claim that it is only the APG-63 (V) 3 plus the ability to jam and detect simultaneously which the APG-82 (V) 1 is just that actually. The naming is not explicitly referred to as the APG-82 (V) 1 as not to destabilize the region due the significance of introducing this radar to the region would be.

Also the Engines Saudi Arabia is using give more thrust to weight ratio compared to the other two, but it is not used by many nation because of its high price, however it is easier and cheaper to maintain on the long run.

That's just to list a few.

 

[Tacticool]

why is the plane painted orange?

 

[Rakan.SA]

why is the plane painted orange?

those are testing planes

Fly-by-wire. DEWS electronic warfare system (used in F-35). The APG-63 (V)3 radar will have the capability of both jamming and detecting simultaneously which means it is really the APG-82 (V) 1, but the sources still claim that it is only the APG-63 (V) 3 plus the ability to jam and detect simultaneously which the APG-82 (V) 1 is just that actually. The naming is not explicitly referred to as the APG-82 (V) 1 as not to destabilize the region due the significance of introducing this radar to the region would be.

Also the Engines Saudi Arabia is using give more thrust to weight ratio compared to the other two, but it is not used by many nation because of its high price, however it is easier and cheaper to maintain on the long run.

That's just to list a few.

thanks a lot.. but can you please explain and elaborate more about the radars you mentioned and also how would it destabilize the region exactly ? you mean concerning israel ? and if so how ? thanks again

 

[Mosamania]

those are testing planes


thanks a lot.. but can you please explain and elaborate more about the radars you mentioned and also how would it destabilize the region exactly ? you mean concerning israel ? and if so how ? thanks again

Israel until it gets the F-35,has nothing that can deal with a Fighter than jams and detects Simultaneously, so in the entire region Saudi Arabia will have a significant advantage to any other country in the region, and wither Israel can negate that with 20 F-35s vs 158 F-15SA is very minimal. So yeah it destabilizes the region significantly.

 

[Rakan.SA]

Israel until it gets the F-35,has nothing that can deal with a Fighter than jams and detects Simultaneously, so in the entire region Saudi Arabia will have a significant advantage to any other country in the region, and wither Israel can negate that with 20 F-35s vs 158 F-15SA is very minimal. So yeah it destabilizes the region significantly.

hey you know ppl in the air force convince them to buy the AC-130 and B-1B lol

 

[Mosamania]

hey you know ppl in the air force convince them to buy the AC-130 and B-1B lol

Bombers and Gunship would be terrible for the airforce, We already have bombers in the form of the F-15Es, Israel uses their F-15E for the tactical bomber role. Saudi Arabia can currently carry out strikes in any area within a 1200 KM radius using the F-15Es, add the aerial refulers and that extends considerably. A single F-15E can cover a radius of 300km(squared) and make it a death zone for any enemy combatant easily.

There is a reason why the RSAF is so fond of the F-15Es. It is because with them you can drop 12 Tonnes of bombs anywhere you wish, 8 Tonnes of bombs with fuel tanks. And also the F-15E simply made the F-15Cs obsolete, because they can also be equipped to fight other fighters if need arises, the reason why the US never used it for that role is because its bombing capabilities were so valuable.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

hey you know ppl in the air force convince them to buy the AC-130 and B-1B lol

It wouldn't even matter if S.A. wanted the B-1B. The US doesn't sell strategic assets, regardless of interest or a request of sale. That proposal would be immediately rejected.

Even after the LRS-B enters service, older assets such as the B-52, B-1B and B-2 will be retired rather than sold. No strategic assets are sold abroad, though they can be transferred within the US to civilian commands or organizations if requested.

The AC-130 can be sold, but likely wont be either due to the usage of secretive electronics which make the US weary of selling.

In short, neither of those items will be sold to S.A. or anyone else. You're joking, I know, but let's at least be realistic.

 

[Rakan.SA]

the B-1B would only be useful in one scenario.. if we went to war with iran. other than that you are completely right no need for it.
what about the AC-130 ? very useful for land force support and special forces. especially in the south with houthis and mountain warfare

It wouldn't even matter if S.A. wanted the B-1B. The US doesn't sell strategic assets, regardless of interest or a request of sale. That proposal would be immediately rejected.

Even after the LRS-B enters service, older assets such as the B-52, B-1B and B-2 will be retired rather than sold. No strategic assets are sold abroad, though they can be transferred within the US to civilian commands or organizations if requested.

The AC-130 can be sold, but likely wont be either due to the usage of secretive electronics which make the US weary of selling.

In short, neither of those items will be sold to S.A. or anyone else. You're joking, I know, but let's at least be realistic.

when is the LRS-B entering service ? i dont think anytime soon.
as for not selling us those weapons i think things changed and it could be sold if the saudi government really wanted it.
i mean its negotiable

 

[Mosamania]

NO!!!! And NO again!!! These items are not negotiable and have never been - no nation other than the US uses either system, even though the AC-130 has been requested before (sales have always been declined). No nation other than the US will use the AC-130 or the B-1B. The US doesn't sell strategic assets, this isn't negotiable - it never has been, we don't sell strategic assets, let alone nuclear capable heavy-bombers like the B-1B. Our closest allies are told they are SOL when they inquire about our strategic assets, how could a lower tier ally like Saudi Arabia be sold such a thing? Oh, and so long as the US and Israel are friendly, the US is never, ever going to offer or sell Saudi Arabia strategic weapons like the B-1B.

End of story, this is a fantasy that is not going to happen. Why do you think the US would make an exception for S.A. when no exception has been made for anyone else?

The same exception that gave us the E-3 AWACS, the F-15Cs and F-15E. The Patriot Pac 3 and Thad. And the Alreigh-Burke class Destroyers preliminary acceptance.