Saudi Arabia/GCC countries still reliable allies? Pakistani government's terrible diplomacy at work.

[CHACHA"G"]

Dear Waz Bhai,
Last time they needed us / army and included us in coalition without our consent by showing confidence that we / Pakistan will be there if the require our help but we refused since it is against our national interest...Right so let them to exercise the same for their national interest.

People wont understand............... Basically its us(Pakistanis)who betrayed them first............. for our so called national interests(shia iran~) , now they are watching there own benefits....... And siding iran brought us (hopefully) ban and india in chabahr...... not to mention permanent membership's slogan for india in UNO.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Unfortunately, even the third option is already a failure for the USA!!! There's simply no way left to deter China now!!! How right Napoleon was - let China sleep (by importing drugs from India), when she wakes up the world (western of course) will cry....

That's exactly the thing...failure or not...it could still potentially lead to war and destruction.

It doesn't matter whether India can deliver or not...what matters is India thinks it can compete with/take on China. Just the mere thinking of US that India can balance China and the mere thinking of India that it can challenge China...is leading to a polarization of this neighborhood...and of the rest of the world to a lesser extent.

 

[Chaosmaster]

LOL @waz what is wrong with you man? First of all the News that Saudis voted for Pakistan was wrong. They cannot vote.

Please visit the link below and see can Saudis vote?
http://www.fatf-gafi.org/countries/

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Saudis don't have a Green dot in the first line man come on. There is a big media campaign being launched here.

just stop brother. Looks like u don't understand a thing. Fatf allows 2 organisations to be its member. Currently its GCC and EU. GCC is led by Saudi. So US convinced Saudi not back our from the vote effectively meaning convinced GCC to not vote in Pak favor. If you still think that Pak is not in grey list then its u against the world bro and u aren't on the right side.

Every one voted against Pakistan and USA gave Mifat a time period of three months wow. This is very hard for me to comprehend. USA pressured Saudis to change their position and then backed out from what they were pushing on lol. There is too much wrong with all these statements and this is becoming very hard for me to comprehend.

USA didn't give pak time period. Any nation is put on grey list when they have a plan to tackle the terror financing and the same has been approved by Fatf. For now, only the decision was taken to put pak on list and 3 months is for them to come up with a plan which once reviewed by Fatf, will be placed on grey list.
Understood?

 

[Max]

They ditched us, bcoz they think we are not important for them, and That's Okay, when they will need us next time we will do the same, maybe we should withdraw all our contingent from KSA.

@waz what about Malaysia? why we didn't lobby for their vote, Chinese Hong Kong, they too have vote?

 

[Chaosmaster]

• There are people who indulge in propaganda
• There are people who fall for propaganda

You have both of these groups on this thread hence the thread is alive and kicking.

Which group do you belong to?

 

[Verve]

What about N.Y. Times, WSJ:

https://twitter.com/x/status/967246243310088192

https://twitter.com/x/status/967085781855633408

According to WSJ, FATF is a secretive group

 

[Spy Master]

“The US officials went out of their way to convince the Saudis, while China backed out from supporting Pakistan afterwards because the Chinese vote wouldn’t have sufficed since three votes are needed to block the move and Pakistan only had Turkey’s,” a Foreign Office official told Asia Times.
http://www.atimes.com/article/pakistan-put-terror-watchlist-diplomatic-farce-paris/

Real friendship.

I hope someday somehow we repay you back your support for us but seeing our leadership that is highly unlikely!

 

[Mr ambassador]

Our foreign policy depends on aid ,not trade.


Turkey has earned my respect .

 

[Arsalan 345]

only Iran and shia call the all Jew or backstabber.
people are forgetting that last time when we were in the list, in the most hardest time they gifted us 1.5 billion dollars.
Saudis and turkey always supported Pakistan on every forum.
whereas Iran and Afghanistan always apposed us every where.
kalboshan and many more were operating from Iran, they have military agreements with India.
not a single incident is there where Iran current revolutionaries have supported us anywhere in the world.

Iran shares border with Pakistan.it is the pathetic situation of Balochistan that allowed yadhav to travel and not Iran.forget Saudi money,they even buy people in madrassas with huge money just to spread their so called wahhabi religion and destroying Pakistan with jahadis who are attacking Pakistan itself.keep a distance when you see a Al jew. They are a disease.

Really? What evidence do you have ?

I can smell them.hahaha

 

[BHarwana]

Dear Waz Bhai,
Last time they needed us / army and included us in coalition without our consent by showing confidence that we / Pakistan will be there if the require our help but we refused since it is against our national interest...Right so let them to exercise the same for their national interest.

How is refusing to Saudis against our national interest? Saudis are not our national interest.

The word is called "national interest" not "international interest".

Moving to FATF. Pakistan is not on the list of FATF. Secondly it is wrong to blame Saudis because they are not voters there.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I hope someday somehow we repay you back your support for us but seeing our leadership that is highly unlikely!

Your forefathers paid it back in full and advance a century ago!!! Turkey is paying it back...

 

[El Sidd]

I do not understand the media spin this recent FATF garnered. We still have a long way to go on this and some books may need balancing.

The utter outrage although delightful but is hardly a matter of concern.

 

[HAIDER]

pakistan really does have the worst foreign policy of any country I’ve ever heard about.

We had worst PM in Pakistan history name Nawaz Shareef , who during his tenure never appointed foreign minister . He is the one who pushed Pakistan to such failure on all political fronts. Nawaz should be sent to India for life , share the bedroom with Modi.

I do not understand the media spin this recent FATF garnered. We still have a long way to go on this and some books may need balancing.

The utter outrage although delightful but is hardly a matter of concern.

I think now Nawaz shareef the local lahore politician start realizing that Pak foreign minister can speak better english then him. Even having worst foreign minister the country has , nation feel positive impact.

 

[El Sidd]

I think now Nawaz shareef the local lahore politician start realizing that Pak foreign minister can speak better english then him. Even having worst foreign minister the country has , nation feel positive impact.

They are just cashing in on the rhetoric and nothing else.

 

[HAIDER]

They are just cashing in on the rhetoric and nothing else.

mujha kyun nikala ......