Saudi Arabia and UAE Decide Not to Withdraw $2 Billion Cash Deposits

[BATMAN]

What a load of BS you come up. IK's ultimate goal is for the economy to grow to such an extent that would easily cater for any such return of Pakistanis. You forget that it was MBS who blackmailed with deportation of Pakistanis.

Pease change your DP to an Arab ruler's!

Economy and IK are two opposite terms, but of course who is stopping us to claim Imran Khan is doing wonders in economy and is going to construct M6 with much better quality control than M5 and far less cost,.. but in reality at best this can be termed as dream of mad man.

And what did i say against Iran? Infact i troll forward your remarks and sentiments for Saudi Arabia!

You still didn't gave the names of the wise men Imran Khan has put together to deal with mass exodus of Pakistanis from Saudi Arabia, which in your words is going to hurt Saudi Arabia!

I wonder how such baseless claims, get unnoticed by those who are very quick in spotting my threads as non authentic source!

On top of that you have audacity to accuse and get personal.

 

[BATMAN]

without those remittances pakistan would have no way of buying oil from Gulf states

I wonder how such stupid comments get un-noticed... by the hawks but no they are ganga of hypocrites.

Do you have slightest of idea how much remittances we receive and how much oil we buy from Saudi?

This is from UN record:
Pakistan imports from Saudi Arabia was US$2.44 Billion during 2019

Where as Pakistan's annual remittances stand close to $30billion, which all goes into the pockets of Saudi hating gang ruling Pakistan.

Hope you know all the oil Pakistan smuggle from Iran is also paid in $ .

 

[BATMAN]

GCC states can replace all those pakistanis with bangladeshis, indians, sri lankans and africans.
you are right they cannot replace them in a day. they are expendable.

GCC can replace Pakistanis with Saudis... there are plenty of Saudi graduates searching for job.

If it's a matter of general labor, Pakistani labor has slight advantage in language, they tend to learn Arabic quicker than Indian /filipino labor.
Here i guess Pakistan has a natural advantage and should exploit it further of which i have little hope.

Other area where Pakistan can chip in is sending soldiers on deputation, but presently Pakistan's new ruling party have destroyed Pakistani credibility in the eyes of entire Arab world, here Bengalis are in good position to exploit the mess created by PM and FM of Pakistan. Thus far Saudis have decided on local hiring and training, in which they have shown great success, i must say in WoT they have operated with far little losses in comparison to Pakistan's campaign in WoT, while Saudis have 2 active borders one of which they have fenced.

 

[HAIDER]

Would you share the copy of contract you speak about?
I still remember, Pakistan have always received oil as aid and even Imran Khan received $6billion package where $2billion was cash and rest was oil!!!!!

Is this mentioned in latest transparency international report?

Loan with interest( 2 percent) paying back in time and oil contract dissolved by MBS in the love of Trump ... Loan money used to buy oil. 3 billions loan came with bell and whistles . Saudis are not stupid, they know how to protect there interest. Pakistan never get any aid from Saudis, they only get soft loan with lower rate of interest in return provide full security to Royals. And also the amount of oil and gas Pakistan buy compare to cheap labor remittances, which poor people fail to understand how GCC has been exploiting Pakistani labor for decades.
Now GCC and Saudi has more labor from India and Bangladesh then Pakistan....I thought they love us so much. All key post and advisor of Royals are now Indian. What happened to our brotherly love... I thought we are so special.
Pakistan oil import bill is over 12 billion dollars a year. Now balance the worksheet. Average import bill of LNG is between 3 to 4 billion dollars .... who they are fooling .... Imran Khan is going in right direction, buy whoever sells cheap .... no go and search your " one sided figures" and correct them.

Chaloo koi tu maza kar raha

 

[Yasser76]

GCC can replace Pakistanis with Saudis... there are plenty of Saudi graduates searching for job.

If it's a matter of general labor, Pakistani labor has slight advantage in language, they tend to learn Arabic quicker than Indian /filipino labor.
Here i guess Pakistan has a natural advantage and should exploit it further of which i have little hope.

Other area where Pakistan can chip in is sending soldiers on deputation, but presently Pakistan's new ruling party have destroyed Pakistani credibility in the eyes of entire Arab world, here Bengalis are in good position to exploit the mess created by PM and FM of Pakistan. Thus far Saudis have decided on local hiring and training, in which they have shown great success, i must say in WoT they have operated with far little losses in comparison to Pakistan's campaign in WoT, while Saudis have 2 active borders one of which they have fenced.

On this, Saudi Armed Forces are still heavily reliant on Pakistan at Military Acadamy and Staff College Level, actually when I say heavily reliant I mean almost completely reliant

 

[nahtanbob]

GCC can replace Pakistanis with Saudis... there are plenty of Saudi graduates searching for job.

If it's a matter of general labor, Pakistani labor has slight advantage in language, they tend to learn Arabic quicker than Indian /filipino labor.
Here i guess Pakistan has a natural advantage and should exploit it further of which i have little hope.

Other area where Pakistan can chip in is sending soldiers on deputation, but presently Pakistan's new ruling party have destroyed Pakistani credibility in the eyes of entire Arab world, here Bengalis are in good position to exploit the mess created by PM and FM of Pakistan. Thus far Saudis have decided on local hiring and training, in which they have shown great success, i must say in WoT they have operated with far little losses in comparison to Pakistan's campaign in WoT, while Saudis have 2 active borders one of which they have fenced.

I have no idea how many pakistanis serve in the security force and military. they may not be replaceable

I wonder how such stupid comments get un-noticed... by the hawks but no they are ganga of hypocrites.

Do you have slightest of idea how much remittances we receive and how much oil we buy from Saudi?

This is from UN record:
Pakistan imports from Saudi Arabia was US$2.44 Billion during 2019

Where as Pakistan's annual remittances stand close to $30billion, which all goes into the pockets of Saudi hating gang ruling Pakistan.

Hope you know all the oil Pakistan smuggle from Iran is also paid in $ .

Without the $20 billion in remittances pakistan is looking at troubled economy. No disagreements here

 

[Yasser76]

I have no idea how many pakistanis serve in the security force and military. they may not be replaceable


Without the $20 billion in remittances pakistan is looking at troubled economy. No disagreements here

You need to learn economics, remittances are not aid, they are payment for services provided. Those workers can generate money elsewhere. Secondly Saudi is not doing Pakistan a favour it gets services in return. Pakistan has taps it can turn off too.

 

[BATMAN]

Loan with interest( 2 percent) paying back in time and oil contract dissolved by MBS in the love of Trump ... Loan money used to buy oil. 3 billions loan came with bell and whistles . Saudis are not stupid, they know how to protect there interest. Pakistan never get any aid from Saudis, they only get soft loan with lower rate of interest in return provide full security to Royals. And also the amount of oil and gas Pakistan buy compare to cheap labor remittances, which poor people fail to understand how GCC has been exploiting Pakistani labor for decades.
Now GCC and Saudi has more labor from India and Bangladesh then Pakistan....I thought they love us so much. All key post and advisor of Royals are now Indian. What happened to our brotherly love... I thought we are so special.
Pakistan oil import bill is over 12 billion dollars a year. Now balance the worksheet. Average import bill of LNG is between 3 to 4 billion dollars .... who they are fooling .... Imran Khan is going in right direction, buy whoever sells cheap .... no go and search your " one sided figures" and correct them.

Where is the proof of your alif laila?

Once again FACT:
It was Imran Khan who engineered economic mismanagement. Refusal of IMF to extend any penny apparently drove Imran Khan to go to Saudis for loan, a practice which he has criticized during his election campaign.

Since Saudi Arabia is not a lending bank, so asking $X billions without pay back assurity was a big no no by design.
Surprisingly... insanely enough young leader of KSA dolled out all what Imran Khan carry to him, sensing the evil game plan being built around.

A price paid by Saudis for stability and security of Pakistan, which Imran Khan on the first place has deliberately put into jeopardy.
While in your post you are saying Saudis fooled Pakistan!!!!

After Saudi soft loan, and with follow-up investments Pakistan could be fully secured on economic front, but it was little known, that Imran Khan and his mysterious mentors are tools of cold start.
They continue with tirade of propaganda and lies and undiplomatic behavior which killed all the positivity in decades old relations, risking remittances.

Now he is again out their in UAE, after blaming Saudi Arabia for being pressurizing him to accept Israel.
Here's report from truth tv of Pakistan, which largely believed to be one of the instrument of PTI's grand media cell.

On labor law, no company would dare violate local labor laws. There are heavy fines for doing so.
On the contrary there are many Pakistanis who violate visa limits and continue to live after expiry, there are criminal gangs who provide illegal work, and accommodation to violators.
There are regular purges and amenesity offers given to such people, and many of them use it
If you are aware of any single exploitation case, report it at hotline of ministry of HR and social development. https://hrsd.gov.sa/en
or even better, Pakistan should setup an embassy in Saudi Arabia, which can help Pakistanis who are exploited, after all tax payers pay millions to SMQ to take care of overseas Pakistanis and similarly overseas Pakistanis pay many more millions to Zulfi Bukhari for same job. Stupid and it proves Pakistani is a banana republic.

Only exploitation, which Saudis can't control is money laundering by hundi gurus, who are exploiting lack of remittance facility by Pakistan govt.

Here's the data from government website, showing import bill of ALL POL products, $6billion in 2019, which is not aligned to your claims.

 

[HAIDER]

Where is the proof of your alif laila?

Once again FACT:
It was Imran Khan who engineered economic mismanagement. Refusal of IMF to extend any penny apparently drove Imran Khan to go to Saudis for loan, a practice which he has criticized during his election campaign.

Since Saudi Arabia is not a lending bank, so asking $X billions without pay back assurity was a big no no by design.
Surprisingly... insanely enough young leader of KSA dolled out all what Imran Khan carry to him, sensing the evil game plan being built around.

A price paid by Saudis for stability and security of Pakistan, which Imran Khan on the first place has deliberately put into jeopardy.
While in your post you are saying Saudis fooled Pakistan!!!!

After Saudi soft loan, and with follow-up investments Pakistan could be fully secured on economic front, but it was little known, that Imran Khan and his mysterious mentors are tools of cold start.
They continue with tirade of propaganda and lies and undiplomatic behavior which killed all the positivity in decades old relations, risking remittances.

Now he is again out their in UAE, after blaming Saudi Arabia for being pressurizing him to accept Israel.
Here's report from truth tv of Pakistan, which largely believed to be one of the instrument of PTI's grand media cell.

On labor law, no company would dare violate local labor laws. There are heavy fines for doing so.
On the contrary there are many Pakistanis who violate visa limits and continue to live after expiry, there are criminal gangs who provide illegal work, and accommodation to violators.
There are regular purges and amenesity offers given to such people, and many of them use it
If you are aware of any single exploitation case, report it at hotline of ministry of HR and social development. https://hrsd.gov.sa/en
or even better, Pakistan should setup an embassy in Saudi Arabia, which can help Pakistanis who are exploited, after all tax payers pay millions to SMQ to take care of overseas Pakistanis and similarly overseas Pakistanis pay many more millions to Zulfi Bukhari for same job. Stupid and it proves Pakistani is a banana republic.

Only exploitation, which Saudis can't control is money laundering by hundi gurus, who are exploiting lack of remittance facility by Pakistan govt.

Here's the data from government website, showing import bill of ALL POL products, $6billion in 2019, which is not aligned to your claims.
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don't give me fabricated numbers from websites. Show me govt documents. Stop wasting my time. Stop defending Saudis, lost enough men and material due imported Saudis ideology.

 

[BATMAN]

don't give me fabricated numbers from websites. Show me govt documents. Stop wasting my time. Stop defending Saudis, lost enough men and material due imported Saudis ideology.

As i said it's a screen shot from relevant Pakistani ministry website. Apparently it's you mafia, who always fabricate figures on pdf and shoot baselessly without any back up from govt. website.
Here's the picture at cover of the doc:

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

I have no idea how many pakistanis serve in the security force and military. they may not be replaceable

Bahrain for example really need sunni's from Pakistan as soldiers and police, as a safeguard from Iran because Bahrain has a shia majority. they get citizenship in return.

 

[nahtanbob]

You need to learn economics, remittances are not aid, they are payment for services provided. Those workers can generate money elsewhere. Secondly Saudi is not doing Pakistan a favour it gets services in return. Pakistan has taps it can turn off too.

You expect the world would welcomes Pakistani expatriates everywhere

 

[Yasser76]

You expect the world would welcomes Pakistani expatriates everywhere

Pakistanis have contributed massivley to economies all over the world, in many spheres of life, just like Indians have. UAE, Saudi, Canada, UK, US. So calm down and temper your hatred a bit. Remember you are on a Pakistani forum, so we must be doing something right....

 

[nahtanbob]

Pakistanis have contributed massivley to economies all over the world, in many spheres of life, just like Indians have. UAE, Saudi, Canada, UK, US. So calm down and temper your hatred a bit. Remember you are on a Pakistani forum, so we must be doing something right....

Even if what you say is true ... is the door open for all those unskilled workers ?

 

[Yasser76]

Even if what you say is true ... is the door open for all those unskilled workers ?

Maybe, maybe not, but majority of remittences are from blue collar/Professional workers, and yes, if they leave it will hurt Pakistan, but it will also hurt Saudi too.

Anyway, we digress. I hope we pay back all Saudi/UAE money, then of course send our workers back. You will of than have two major regional rivals (one nuclear armed), and of course expect Pakistan to extend every courtesy to Qatar, Iran and Turkey.

Not a great diplomatic victory, and now US is slapping an embargo on you, options are running out fast.

In the meantime you will also need to find academy training for 60 Navy, 15 Air Force and 100 Army cadets you send to Pakistan military academies, and the 30-40 staff officers sent to Staff Colleges in Pakistan.

Then you can expect 2,000 off Pakistani troops to withdraw training roles in Saudi.

In the meantime Saudi cadets will be refused military training in Europe and US (US banned it due to NAS Penneascola shooting)

Now ask yourself, was it worth disrupting one of the strongest alliances in the Muslim world? For what gain?

MBS is a curse on Saudi