Saturn's 'Death Star' Moon Mimas Is Weird Inside!

[jamahir]

I dont remember his exact words but i do remember him asking me to sit down rudely.

i too have always doubted the "big bang theory"... but then, that idea was propagated by mathematicians who always give precise numbers and predictions even when those don't work in the real universe... to me, mathematicians have the same credibility as economists and astrologers... none.

take the 2009 "prediction" of the chairman of nasscom ( association of indian info. tech. companies )... he had said very confidently then that the indian software industry will be earning trillions of dollars by 2030... but fours years later... 2014... indian it industry is effectively finished... some day soon, someone will publicly humiliate this fellow, and the other fool, yen aar narayamurthy.

and your professor also wouldn't have ever questioned about the definition of a planet... many people unquestioningly follow all the wrong things for decades, mainly because they are scared to question...

look at this very fine essay... ( Death to the Incapable Until Revolution* ).

I still cant understand how an artifical environment can be created when the surface of the so called moons will remain opaque and ergo the availability of sunlight would be zero???

good question... and the answer is two-fold...

1. when the moon ( or asteroid or spaceship or spaceship asteroid ) is generally in some light of a sun ( or star ), an arrangement of big mirrors, lens and air-tight glass windows will deliver sunlight... sunlight on earth's surface can really be concentrated to melt metal... ( Solar Furnace Melts Steel, Our Minds )...

2. when the moon ( or other worlds ) is far away from a sun... like how pluto is... artificial lighting can be used, which can deliver light close to the full spectrum of light... additionally, plant bioengineering can be used to force plants ( or crops ) to make their chlorophyll use a limited amount of artificial light spectrum... i am speculating of course, but i think it is possible.

It is hoped that scientists would one day start thinking of making use of the natural resources like asteroids and small moons to construct large cost effective spaceships to house space colonies to explore and colonize strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before!

i agree that asteroids can be dug into and spaceships created... i have said so somewhere earlier in this very thread... but i would say that the asteroid must not be too big because acceleration of the engines may break-up the asteroid.

but thanks for the detailed writing... and i agree about the effects of a rotating spaceship on its inhabitants... maybe nausea, from looking at the spinning star fields... maybe the inhabitants can live inside big internal drum mechanism which rotate... rather than rotating the entire asteroid-spaceship.

 

[jamahir]

may be smaller inflatable types.what say?

those are already being demonstrated...

"bigelow aerospace" company has already launched two models, think.

but the above is meant to be a space-station which doesn't travel very much... its engines are for "station keeping", keeping it at a certain altitude above earth... i don't know if it is easier to live inside and repair a travellng inflatable spaceship.

 

[srshkmr]

Technically, the rings of Saturn are nothing more than millions of tiny moons which just happen to orbit in a narrow belt.

One theory is that the rings are just the remains of ancient moons which broke up.

Another thoery is that wars between greys and Reptiles were fought there and Saturn was indeed a star which dried up causing the end of lives in the planets and converting them to moons as per @isro2222

 

[Levina]

take the 2009 "prediction" of the chairman of nasscom ( association of indian info. tech. companies )... he had said very confidently then that the indian software industry will be earning trillions of dollars by 2030... but fours years later... 2014... indian it industry is effectively finished... some day soon, someone will publicly humiliate this fellow, and the other fool, yen aar narayamurthy

Did you just say that??
Indian IT industry is off topic but I need to tell you a few things...
IT sector exports to grow 13-15% in FY15, says Nasscom - Livemint

2. when the moon ( or other worlds ) is far away from a sun... like how pluto is... artificial lighting can be used, which can deliver light close to the full spectrum of light... additionally, plant bioengineering can be used to force plants ( or crops ) to make their chlorophyll use a limited amount of artificial light spectrum... i am speculating of course, but i think it is possible.

I am ruling out that possibility. There's always more than one way of doing things but the option which is more feasible is selected.In this case i think mirrors would be preferred.

 

[jamahir]

Did you just say that??
Indian IT industry is off topic but I need to tell you a few things...
IT sector exports to grow 13-15% in FY15, says Nasscom - Livemint

1. that article was published on feb 11 2014... and two days later, this happened... ( Job Cuts And Weeping Workers At IBM India - Forbes )...

2. just a few days ago, this happened... ( Yahoo To Outline Cost Cuts, Hundreds Of India Jobs Affected )...

3. Infosys issues legal notices to media houses - Livemint

4. there is a report from 2011, produced by ministry of info. tech. ( india ) along with "ernst and young"... it confirms that the 300,000+ college students who used to pass out of colleges college computing courses every year in india ( until 2011 ) were not really useful... therefore, when western companies, wanting to save themselves in a failing capitalist scenario, arrange cost cuttings, their first target is removal of unnecessary projects ( almost always outsourced to india ) and removal of unnecessary employees ( bangalore, poona, hyderabad, noida, gurgaon etc ).

5. because of lack of "scope" in info. tech. and other fields in india presently, about two hundred engineering colleges in tamil nadu have closed down most departments because there are no students for those fields... confirmed to me by a senior person who has a government contract.

6. mba colleges are shutting down...

7. how the usa computer industry people see indian info. tech. industry... ( Life of an I.T. Grunt | Notes From The Trenches of Software Development ).

I am ruling out that possibility. There's always more than one way of doing things but the option which is more feasible is selected.In this case i think mirrors would be preferred.

true.

 

[OrionHunter]

I did watch that video.
And thats the reason I asked you how would we get sunlight into a colony which is dug as the surface of moon/planet would be opaque. I was reading a few articles where i read sunlight could be brought insto these colonies using mirrors.

No sun light as this was supposed to be an interstellar spaceship. There's no sun out there in the depths of space. So Rama was illuminated from the inside with giant lights that resembled tube lights 30 kms long, three equidistant strips along the insides of the ship. One has to open his mind to visualize this! Here....

 

[Nova2]

No sun light as this was supposed to be an interstellar spaceship. There's no sun out there in the depths of space. So Rama was illuminated from the inside with giant lights that resembled tube lights 30 kms long, three equidistant strips along the insides of the ship. One has to open his mind to visualize this! Here....

Exactly if it would be an interstellar travel use of mirror and other thing would simply not help, going past 120AU mark would leave very little sunlight,
Just have a look at how sun looks, even inside the solar system,

i wonder how much power would they be able to produce even from a distance of 120AU, but in an interstellar travel artifivial lighting would be used for sure,cos the nearest star to sun is Proxima centauri at 268,000 AU,i wonder where would they get light even after 1000AU distance.