Russian warship fires shots at Royal Navy ship in Black Sea - Russia-UK tensions erupt

[313ghazi]

I find it funny how Pakistanis never learn their lesson. Russia isn't Pakistan's friend, so don't feel obliged to defend them.

Britain isn't either, we have a long colonial past proving that.

Also to answer your next question - to milk as much money as i can, whilst i can.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Russia says next time it may fire to hit intruding warships
Associated Press
June 24, 2021 51 mins ago

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ASSOCIATED PRESS

Russia is prepared to fire upon intruding warships, a senior Russian diplomat said Thursday in a tough warning in the wake of a Black Sea incident in which a British destroyer sailed near Crimea in an area that Russia claims as its territorial waters.

Russia said one of its warships fired warning shots and a warplane dropped bombs in the path of British destroyer Defender on Wednesday to drive it away from the area near Sevastopol. Britain denied that account, insisted its ship wasn’t fired upon and said it was sailing in Ukrainian waters.

The incident marked the first time since the Cold War that Moscow acknowledged using live ammunition to deter a NATO warship, underlining the rising threat of military collisions amid Russia-West tensions.

Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Thursday that “the inviolability of the Russian borders is an absolute imperative,” adding that it will be protected “by all means, diplomatic, political and military if needed.”
He said the British navy should rename its destroyer from Defender to Aggressor and warned that “those who try to test our strength are taking high risks.”

Asked what Russia would do to prevent such intrusions in the future, Ryabkov told reporters it would stand ready to fire on targets if warnings don’t work.

“We may appeal to reason and demand to respect international law,” Ryabkov said, according to the Interfax news agency. “If it doesn’t help, we may drop bombs and not just in the path but right on target if colleagues don’t get it otherwise.”
Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman deplored what he described as a “deliberate and well-prepared provocation” by Britain and seconded the tough warning.
“If unacceptable provocative actions are repeated, if those actions go too far, no options to legitimately protect the borders of the Russian Federation could be excluded,” the spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said in a call with reporters.
On Wednesday, the Russian Defense Ministry said a patrol ship fired warning shots after the HMS Defender had ignored a notice against intrusion and sailed 3 kilometers (1.6 nautical miles) into Russia’s territorial waters near Sevastopol, the main Russian naval base in Crimea.
It said a Russian Su-24 bomber also dropped four bombs ahead of the vessel to persuade the Defender to change course. Minutes later, the Defender left Russian waters, the ministry said.
Britain denied the Defender had been fired on or that bombs were dropped in its path. It insisted that the ship was making a routine journey through an internationally recognized travel lane and remained in Ukrainian waters.
The U.K., like most of the international community, recognizes Crimea as part of Ukraine despite the peninsula’s 2014 annexation by Russia.
“Under international law, you can take the closest, fastest route from one point to another,” Cabinet minister George Eustice told Sky News on Thursday. “HMS Defender was passing through Ukrainian waters … and that was the logical route for it to take.”
Russia long has chafed at NATO warships visiting near Crimea as destabilizing, even though three NATO members — Turkey, Romania and Bulgaria — all have Black Sea coastlines.
In April, Russia declared a broader area off Crimea closed to foreign naval ships until November, a move that drew strong protests from Ukraine and the West.
The Russian navy chief, Adm. Nikolai Yevmenov, said Thursday that the British destroyer’s move was clearly provocative, noting that it ignored the warnings in a bid to test Russia’s resolve.
“They came to see how we act,” he told reporters in St. Petersburg. “And they only reacted to the power of weapons. Our navy acted in a competent and safe manner to stop the provocation.”
A BBC report from the British ship did not show bombs being dropped but showed the Defender being buzzed by Russian military aircraft and receiving a threat over the radio to change course or be fired upon.
Footage filmed from a Russian warplane and a drone that was released by the Russian Defense Ministry also showed Russian jets flying close to the Defender but didn’t feature any bombs dropped or warning shots fired.
Mikhail Khodaryonok, a retired Russian army colonel who works as a military analyst based in Moscow, said the Russian warplane apparently dropped bombs miles away from the British ship to avoid any damage. He charged that the British denial that Russia had fired warning shots and dropped bombs to chase the Defender away was an attempt to save face.
“They couldn’t admit that they were forced to change course, that they were aware of a threat that weapons would be used against them,” Khodaryonok said in a telephone interview. “The former ruler of the seas couldn’t allow for a loss of face by admitting that they submitted to the demands of the Russian side to change course.”

 

[Invicta]

British delusion lol. They think the British empire is still alive.

There is a prediction that Russian will attack UK. Seems to be going in that direction. The real evil is the UK and I am ashamed to be living here



You sound like an Indian idiot or a british slave

Anyone holding you hostage? If no one is forcing you to stay in the UK why not leave to whichever country you consider a paradise.

 

[truthseeker2010]

Video showing hms defender being shadowed by russian jets.

 

[mike2000 is back]

The question is when is Turkey leaving NATO?

DEFINTELY NOT IN YOUR LIFETIME. Its ok to keep dreaming though.

I find it funny how Pakistanis never learn their lesson. Russia isn't Pakistan's friend, so don't feel obliged to defend them.

They forget that Russia has been their arch enemies biggest backer actually. I can understand their love and affection for the Chinese. But it baffles me why they also salivate over Russia. In fact we have supported Pakistan far more than any support Russia has ever given them. That's the irony of it all. lol

 

[mike2000 is back]

Anyone holding you hostage? If no one is forcing you to stay in the UK why not leave to whichever country you consider a paradise.

Don't mind him. There are many of them hypocrites on this forum. They will keep living and enjoying their life in the country they call evil and hate. But they wont move back to their country or the country they claim to love/support. In fact, even if you wanted to move them back to their home country of origin or the country they support, they will fight and give everything not to be moved back to those countries. Its hypocrisy at it's finest.
He says he's ashamed to live in Britain, as if there is anybody who is forcing him to live here. The borders are wide open, in fact our government is even encouraging people like him to move out/emigrate way from the country, the more of them move out the better. However, unfortunately people like this will just talk/type such comments in the comfort of their home, but they will never take action. That's the funny thing.

First time hearing this.

Actually many lower middle class or below wouldn’t mind either option. Depending upon their current social standing or financial status.

NOPE vast majority of Pakistanis and even Indians who think to immigrate think about the 'evil West' first and foremost (mainly U.S,UK, Canada, Australia). Hardly any of them think of Russia as a first choice. lol Their support for Russia ends on their keyboard. I can't blame them though(not much opportunities for them in Russia). lol

 

[nahtanbob]

First time hearing this.

Actually many lower middle class or below wouldn’t mind either option. Depending upon their current social standing or financial status.

Please visit Russia and see how they treat brown colored foreigners. you will have a better appreciation of state and society

 

[Abid123]

I find it funny how Pakistanis never learn their lesson. Russia isn't Pakistan's friend, so don't feel obliged to defend them.

Would take Russia and China anyday over a terrorist regime like the UK. Cant remeber the last time Russia or China invading a country for oil...

 

[beijingwalker]

Footage emerges of Russia/UK warship incident in Black Sea

 

[Genghis khan1]

Please visit Russia and see how they treat brown colored foreigners. you will have a better appreciation of state and society

Not much different than many European countries nowadays.

 

[vostok]

Britain became soft and sissy - in 19 ct. they were brave super power and attacked Crimea in alliance with France and Turkey. Now they went 3 km deep in Crimean waters and see it like some act of bravery.

Please visit Russia and see how they treat brown colored foreigners. you will have a better appreciation of state and society

Fake. Millions of Russian citizens are Brown and Mongoloids and we live with them longer than first English colonies appeared in America. Racism in USA is much stronger.

 

[beijingwalker]

China should learn from Russia, shoot those Brits in south China sea.

 

[Whizzack]

So the HMS Defender did enter the 12 mile limit, and it was done deliberately... Totally understandable that the Russians were upset..

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Britain acknowledges surprise at speed of Russian reaction to warship
Kremlin summons UK ambassador as Boris Johnson says HMS Defender’s deployment ‘wholly appropriate’

The Royal Navy ship HMS Defender arriving at the Black Sea port of Odessa, last week. Photograph: Sergey Smolentsev/Reuters

Dan Sabbagh in London and Andrew Roth in Moscow
Thu 24 Jun 2021 15.06 BST

British officials acknowledged they were taken by surprise by the speed of the Russian reaction to HMS Defender’s 36-minute passage through Crimean waters on Wednesday as the British ambassador to Moscow was summoned to the Kremlin.
Although a Russian response to the Royal Navy warship’s passage within the 12-mile territorial limit was anticipated, the UK Ministry of Defence did not expect the Kremlin to speedily declare that warning shots had been fired.

That dramatically escalated the situation on Wednesday lunchtime, forcing the MoD in London to scramble to establish what had happened, before concluding that the Russians had fired cannon at a safe distance behind the British warship.
“We knew that something might happen, but we didn’t quite expect the Russians to say that,” a defence source said. What had been expected to be a tense, if routine, mission to assert navigation rights in the Black Sea, had escalated into a military and diplomatic incident.
The Russian military also claimed that a jet had dropped four bombs in the path of the British destroyer to force it to change course, but that was rapidly debunked, because there was no evidence to support it.

Speaking on Thursday, Boris Johnson, the UK prime minister, said the deployment of the HMS Defender was “wholly appropriate” – although Downing St would not confirm whether he personally authorised the mission.

The prime minister added: “The important point is that we don’t recognise the Russian annexation of Crimea. This is part of a sovereign Ukrainian territory, it was entirely right that we should vindicate the law and pursue freedom of navigation in the way that we did, take the shortest route between two points, and that’s what we did.”
Russia said it would summon the British ambassador to the foreign ministry in a political escalation after the unexpected diplomatic and military clash in the Black Sea on Wednesday.
A Russian foreign ministry spokesperson said the UK ambassador, Deborah Bronnert, would receive a “severe demarche” on Thursday after HMS Defender sailed in the waters near the Crimean peninsula.
“We may appeal to common sense and demand respect for international law,” said Sergei Ryabkov, a Russian deputy foreign minister. “But if it does not help, we may drop bombs not only in the path [of the ship] but also on the target itself, if colleagues do not understand.”

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Boris Johnson defends warship's passage through Crimean waters – video
A clearer chronology began to emerge on Thursday. HMS Defender had planned to sail for about an hour through territorial waters off Cape Fiolent in Crimea, less than 12 miles from the disputed territory, on Wednesday lunchtime local time.
The warship intended to take what the UK said was an internationally recognised shipping lane, on a direct route between the Ukrainian port of Odessa and Batumi, in Georgia, to assert freedom of navigation rights and show support to Kyiv.
Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014, in an annexation that is not recognised by the UK or other western territories, and the Royal Navy knew the Russians guarded their waters closely.
During the passage through the Crimean waters, HMS Defender was shadowed by two Russian coastguard ships, one of which got as close as about 100 metres, while an estimated 20 aircraft buzzed overhead, in some cases at heights as low as 150 metres, according to British estimates, in a deliberate attempt to harass the warship on its journey.
A parliamentary statement released by the UK defence secretary, Ben Wallace, on Thursday said that HMS Defender entered “Ukrainian territorial waters” at 9.50am UK time – local time 11.50am – engaged on “innocent passage”.
Exactly 10 minutes later, the statement continued, “a Russian coastguard vessel warned that Russian units would shortly commence a live-fire gunnery exercise”. Artillery was seen behind or astern the navy ship at 10.08am, but it was “out of range” and “posed no danger”.
BBC and Daily Mail journalists on the warship both heard cannon fire in the distance – but UK defence sources on Thursday said the heavy guns were three miles away, using weapons understood to have a range of 2.5 miles. Because they were not fired at the vessel they could not be considered to be warning shots.
“At no point were warning shots fired at HMS Defender,” Wallace said, “nor bombs dropped in her path as has been asserted by the Russian authorities.” HMS Defender then departed the territorial waters at 10.26am UK time.
A few minutes later, Russia’s defence ministry told the Interfax news agency that warning shots had been fired at the British warship and bombs dropped in its path, with the first reports in English emerging at 11.05am. The UK denial emerged an hour later, at 12.09pm, as the incident had already become headline news.

The two countries routinely test each other’s defences, with Russian jets often flying close to British airspace and warships sailing through the Channel. However, incidents involving open fire are very rare.
The incident has been played up on Russian state television as a provocation that exemplifies the need for Russia to defend itself from Nato powers.
Russian diplomatic and military officials have warned they were ready to fire on foreign ships in order to assert Russia’s control over Crimea and its coastal waters.
On Wednesday evening, Russia’s defence ministry released video of its ships and aircraft monitoring the British navy destroyer but did not show a bombing run or shots fired near the HMS Defender.
Russia has already fired on other ships off the coast of Crimea. In 2018, the Russian coastguard fired on three Ukrainian ships traversing the Kerch strait and blocked the narrow waterway with a barge. It held the ships and 24 captured Ukrainian sailors for more than six months before releasing them in a prisoner swap in 2019.

Britain acknowledges surprise at speed of Russian reaction to warship

Kremlin summons UK ambassador as Boris Johnson says HMS Defender’s deployment ‘wholly appropriate’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Piotr]

Russian ship firing warning shots-

Anyone holding you hostage? If no one is forcing you to stay in the UK why not leave to whichever country you consider a paradise.

When are you Anglos leaving North America and Australia ? You don't belong to North America and Australia.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Seemed set up as the BBC were on board. How ironic.