Russian warship fires shots at Royal Navy ship in Black Sea - Russia-UK tensions erupt

[Taimoor Khan]

Russia is just making a big deal out of this for internal propaganda purposes by Putin to show it's people how it's standing up to the west and bla bla bla. There was no need for such a useless action of firing so called 'warning shots' and playing the incident up all over their news as some sort of victory. This type of behaviour is expected from regional countries like Iran not a major power like Russia.
Russian jets and navy ships have also crossed through/close to our territorial waters several times before, in fact it happens quite often, but you don't see us taking such 'useless grandstanding' actions. We just shadow them and escort them out of our airspace/waters and that's it. No big deal, big power play these games all the time. Don't see the big deal here, and i don't see what Putin is trying to achieve here. He will remain Russia's president for life, so i don't see why he is trying to show his people with this silly actions.

I am not sure why Boris government lying to public about this incident. Clearly Russian were firing warning shots towards Defender. This is a very serious escalation.

 

[casual]

don't think UK will risk provoking Russia here again.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Can you share the story / news of such an incident of where the Russians actually really crossed into the UK territorial waters without approval (and not just merely close to it)..? I'm really curious... I really don't see how the western media will not drum it up if such an incident were to really happen.. After all there was recently a big fuss just because some French fisherman fishing in Jersey territorial waters..

PUTIN nuke fleet ‘enters the Channel’ as Russia mocks Britain’s 'overreaction'

A RUSSIAN fleet of warships entered the English Channel this morning – passing just miles from the port of Dover. The giant eight-ship convoy was pictured steaming through the 21 mile-wide ne…

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RAF jets scrambled after Russian jets spotted flying over North Sea

Aircraft were scrambled from Scotland and Oxfordshire, while the mission was conducted in Lincolnshire with help from NATO.

news.sky.com

Royal Navy shadows nine Russian warships around the UK

The nine Russian warships - which included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer and a patrol ship - were spotted in the English Channel, the Celtic Sea and the west coast of Scotland.

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Royal Navy tracks surfaced Russian submarine in waters close to the UK

HMS Mersey is a River-class offshore patrol vessel. Together with her sister vessels, she protects the UK’s fishing rights. Find out more about her here.

www.royalnavy.mod.uk

There are so many such incidents that its almost routine now. Russian fighters, submarines, navy vessels do loiter around our territorial waters frequently. We do detect, intercept and escort them out like any professional navy/military. Nothing to make a big deal about to the point of firing shots/dropping bombs for propaganda purposes. its simply ridiculous.

 

[aziqbal]

I am sorry

neither Russia or China has free media

there is no way to independently confirm these reports, most likely Russia propaganda

everyone knows since April 1969 here has always been a Royal Navy ballistic missile submarine at sea. Armed with strategic nuclear missiles, these submarines have acted as the nation’s continuous nuclear deterrent, sending a clear message to would-be aggressors.

United Kingdom’s strategic nuclear deterrent is provided by the Vanguard-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine.

if you attack any UK asset they will know a single Vanguard-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine carries enough firepower to completely annihilate the entire land mass of Russia + China combined 10 times over

only UK has that kind of capability and this is why Russia nor China would ever dare to even scratch our warships

 

[Whizzack]

PUTIN nuke fleet ‘enters the Channel’ as Russia mocks Britain’s 'overreaction'

A RUSSIAN fleet of warships entered the English Channel this morning – passing just miles from the port of Dover. The giant eight-ship convoy was pictured steaming through the 21 mile-wide ne…

www.thesun.co.uk

RAF jets scrambled after Russian jets spotted flying over North Sea

Aircraft were scrambled from Scotland and Oxfordshire, while the mission was conducted in Lincolnshire with help from NATO.

news.sky.com

Royal Navy shadows nine Russian warships around the UK

The nine Russian warships - which included a surfaced submarine, a destroyer and a patrol ship - were spotted in the English Channel, the Celtic Sea and the west coast of Scotland.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Royal Navy tracks surfaced Russian submarine in waters close to the UK

HMS Mersey is a River-class offshore patrol vessel. Together with her sister vessels, she protects the UK’s fishing rights. Find out more about her here.

www.royalnavy.mod.uk

There are so many such incidents that its almost routine now. Russian fighters, submarines, navy vessels do loiter around our territorial waters frequently. We do detect, intercept and escort them out like any professional navy/military. Nothing to make a big deal about to the point of firing shots/dropping bombs for propaganda purposes. its simply ridiculous.

Thanks.. but it's not comparable... the narrowest part of the English channel is a narrow strait just 21 miles, so any ships passing thru will have to temporarily be either in the UK or French territorial waters... that or they have to sail all the way thru the North Sea... and there's no reason to do that unless the UK has explicitly declared the strait as closed to marine traffic (or at least military traffic).. While on the Black sea there's more than enough space for the ship (or any ship) to avoid entering the 12 mile limit of the Crimean coast... and also the Russians has declared the 12-mile line to be off limits..

 

[Old School]

Nest time , the Royal ship will be vaporized.

 

[That Guy]

No that’s not funny. What I find funny is this guy will worship the country that killed Pakistanis for fun in drone strikes.

Hope the US government is paying you to spew this propaganda, if you aren’t being paid, you’ve got serious issues son.


Crimea belongs to Russia. End of.

Then I guess you also accept India's claims over parts of Kashmir and Tibet?

Occupation doesn't mean ownership.

End of.

As for the US, when the **** did the US even factor into this discussion? I'm talking about the UK and Russia. Russia has never been Pakistan's friend, and actively supported Pakistan's enemies.

Pay? perhaps you're projecting your own current situation?

You'd best watch your tongue before accusing me of anything.

 

[That Guy]

Britain isn't either, we have a long colonial past proving that.

Also to answer your next question - to milk as much money as i can, whilst i can.

Actually I wasn't gonna ask you a question, I was gonna point out that treat them as business partners, and nothing more. Pakistanis make the mistake of falling in love with any nation that remotely defends them, and acting like scorned spouses when that nation inevitably turns on them.

There are no permanent friends, only permanent interests. One day, even the Chinese will turn on Pakistan, it is inevitable.

Would take Russia and China anyday over a terrorist regime like the UK. Cant remeber the last time Russia or China invading a country for oil...

Russia literally invaded Syria and George not too long ago. Russia doesn't need oil, they care more about geography, that's the resource they want the most.

 

[KAL-EL]

Nest time , the Royal ship will be vaporized.

What’s the name of your video game?

 

[Old School]

What’s the name of your video game?

Ground reality.

 

[KAL-EL]

Ground reality.

Oh cool!

I’d like to play that game. I’d like to predict when a ship will be vaporized when I have absolutely no evidence to back up what I said.

 

[Old School]

Oh cool!

I’d like to play that game. I’d like to predict when a ship will be vaporized when I have absolutely no evidence to back up what I said.

There has to be a ship to begin with. Isn't it ? We will talk when there will be a ship for the second time. No ship means no way to verify what will happen to it. However, the warning shots to the first one are real with overwhelming evidence. The premise requires a second violation in the future to take place in order to predict an outcome.
For now, Russia 1 ; UK 0.
P.S. I usually don't reply such poorly constructed questions but i did reply here only because the question came from a TT /Elite group member.

 

[Piotr]

Never - go fire some more warning shots.

You Anglos will be driven out of North America and Australia. China is already cleaning Hong Kong from leftovers of evil English colonializm.

And don't forget to apologise for English death camps in Africa supervised by your racist "queen" Elizabeth Windsor.

 

[Baz2020]

Anyone holding you hostage? If no one is forcing you to stay in the UK why not leave to whichever country you consider a paradise.

Yeah would gladly do that in a heartbeat as soon as the UK stops being a safe haven for money launderers from around the world. pretty shameless these bits are. Innit? First plunder other countries and then support the corrupt leaders from those countries. Oh world leaders for racism.