Russian ambassador to Turkey shot dead in Ankara

[AnatolianEagle]

How am i generalizing anything just by pointing to something unusual?

By making the unusual an unsense point.

The ambassador was killed related to poorly protection doesn't make sense. Hours later another important one killed in Russia.

 

[xenon54 out]

By making the unusual an unsense point.

You should really look up the definition of generalizing.

 

[AnatolianEagle]

You should really look up the definition of generalizing.

I know what it is dont worry.

 

[usernameless]

You are entitled your opinion as much as i am .. Don't act like Erdogan is someone that can't be Criticize .. No one is holier than holy .. I respect Turkey and Turks but i expect same in Return so try to take opinions as Opinion you have right to disagree , so when next time you quote keep this in mind .. cause because of such people my Ignore list is getting better and better

I'm not a huge fan of Erdogan nor his party and i have criticized him and still do. However, if only those foreigners, like you, that are clearly too ignorant of Turkey could spare the readers from 0 value statements just because they have the urge to express their fancy opinion, then this thread easily would have had less pages full with garbage to scroll through Besides, I've addressed the argument of your first post whereas you haven't, reinforces my feeling that you're avoiding an argument since you have no clue of what you're writing about. Put me on the list, i'll do the same.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I'm not a huge fan of Erdogan nor his party and i have criticized him and still do. However, if only those foreigners, like you, that are clearly too ignorant of Turkey could spare the readers from 0 value statements just because they have the urge to express their fancy opinion, then this thread easily would have had less pages full with garbage to scroll through Besides, I've addressed the argument of your first post whereas you haven't, reinforces my feeling that you're avoiding an argument since you have no clue of what you're writing about. Put me on the list, i'll do the same.

You got it

 

[usernameless]

Turkey-Russia ties to emerge stronger from tragedy

On Monday evening, Andrey Karlov, Russia's ambassador to Turkey, was shot dead by a 22-year-old police officer in an Ankara art gallery. The shooter, who shouted "Don't forget Aleppo, don't forget Syria" after gunning down the envoy, was killed by law enforcement. At least two people who attended the event were treated for injuries.

In the wake of the Karlov assassination, Turkish leaders reached out to their Russian counterparts to offer their condolences and reiterate their commitment to cooperation with Moscow. After briefing Russian President Vladimir Putin over the phone, Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan made a statement about the incident – which he called "an act of provocation intended to disrupt the multi-dimensional cooperation between Turkey and Russia" – and noted that neither Moscow nor Ankara would fall for it. Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım spoke with his Russian counterpart to condemn the fatal attack and argued that the gunman didn't just target Turkey-Russia ties but also joint efforts to address regional problems. The two countries decided to launch a joint investigation to shed light on the envoy's assassination.

As a country that has lost many diplomats to terrorism over the years, Turkey understands the sense of loss and fury Russia and its people must be feeling today. Not only Turkish officials, but also the entire nation is mourning the murder of the envoy of Russia. With a formal investigation already underway, there are red flags all over the shocking event. First, the timing is curious: The gunman, who supposedly wanted to avenge Aleppo, took no action during the four-month bombardment in the Syrian city. Instead, he gunned down the Russian ambassador just hours before the foreign ministers of Turkey, Iran and Russia were due to meet in Moscow to resolve the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo. Then comes the footage of the shooting – where some things are off. In a clear attempt to portray himself as a member of a radical group, the assassin clumsily recited Arabic phrases a normal extremist would have recited thousands of times. No one who heard his sentences can doubt that here we have someone trying to confuse the authorities.

Finally, here are some facts we already know about the shooter. According to a senior official, he requested two days of personal leave on theJuly 15 coup attempt and boarded an Ankara-bound flight from Diyarbakir just minutes before the public learned about the putsch. "He arrived at Ankara Esenboga Airport just after 11 p.m., which makes us wonder if he knew about the coup attempt in advance," the official said. "What's more interesting is that several of his classmates said the shooter was sympathetic toward Fetullah Gülen, the fugitive leader of the Gülenist Terror Group (FETÖ) and two police officers who wrote recommendations for him when he applied for the police academy have been discharged since the coup attempt over Gülen links. The same goes for the police chief who approved the shooter's two-day leave request on July 15." Just three days before the assassination, senior Gülenist Abdullah Bozkurt had 'randomly' claimed that "embassies are no longer safe in Turkey." The fact that most of his friends and acquaintances had no idea that he had strong links to FETÖ is proof that he was a member, as hiding their true nature from those closest to them is their most evident trait. Again, a joint investigation will be launched to find out who the shooter really was.

While we mourn the death of Ambassador Karlov, his murder has shown the necessity of Turkey and Russia cooperating more closely on regional issues and terrorism. Yesterday's foreign minister-level meeting in Moscow marks a first step toward the peaceful resolution of the Syrian crisis and the upcoming Astana summit. Over the past six years, Turkey's allies in Washington and Brussels have proved completely unreliable if not hostile to Turkish interests on the ground. Paying lip service to removing Bashar al-Assad from power, they partnered with terrorist groups, including the YPG, and perpetuated the civil war under the pretext of fighting Daesh – in slow motion. Moving forward, Turkey and Russia need to work together to broker a deal in Syria, break the power of the terror groups and put the region back on track.

This latest tragedy shows that the measures taken by the Turkish government against FETÖ have not been effective enough to root out all the danger posed by the group. More effective and harsher strategies are called for to root out all FETÖ presence within the police and judiciary. No one should forget that FETÖ operatives still in hiding will try new tactics to harm the country.

Conducting attacks that lead to an operative's death, practically suicide attacks, is something the group had never attempted before Monday. The group's operatives had resorted to committing suicide after July 15 to hide what they know from authorities, but Monday was the first time the group conducted a suicide attack. FETÖ, through its local imam's directives, can change their tactics at a moment's notice. Recently, Fetullah Gülen himself told his followers that sacrificing oneself for the group was permissible.

Meanwhile, the Russian leadership should cooperate more closely with Turkey to address the threat posed by Gülen, who continues to operate freely out of his mansion in the United States. Especially in Central Asia, where Moscow has considerable influence, it is important for the Russians to support the ongoing effort by Turkey to hinder the group's recruitment efforts and financial operations.

The actions of Turkish and Russian leaders will determine what Ambassador Karlov's legacy will be. If we can mourn him together and hold those responsible for his untimely death accountable, Moscow and Ankara can take their partnership to the next level.

http://www.dailysabah.com/editorial/2016/12/20/turkey-russia-ties-to-emerge-stronger-from-tragedy

 

[Rafi]

All signs point to the deviant cleric, the pilot who downed the Russian air force plane, was also a member of the cult.

May the Almighty protect our brother and sister Turks

 

[Kaniska]

All signs point to the deviant cleric, the pilot who downed the Russian air force plane, was also a member of the cult.

May the Almighty protect our brother and sister Turks

I think Jihadist people do not want good relation between Russia and Turkey...So i hope saner people from Turkey and Russia will talk with each other and sort it out easily.

 

[Banglar Bir]

RUSSIA BLAMES WEST
Key ally of Vladimir Putin claims shadowy Nato forces masterminded the assassination of Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24384...sination-of-russian-ambassador-andrey-karlov/

Senator Frantz Klintsevich claimed today that Nato secret services were 'behind' the shocking killing

BY COREY CHARLTON

19th December 2016,
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THE assassination of Russian ambassador Andrey Karlov was masterminded by Nato secret services, a top Vladimir Putin ally has claimed.

Karlov was gunned down by a member of Turkey’s anti-riot police while attending an art exhibition opening in the capital Ankara.


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A key ally of Putin claims the killing was a Nato masterminded attack

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Karlov pictured at the art exhibition opening moments before he was gunned down
Killer Mevlut Mert Altintas, 22, was later shot dead after standing over Karlov’s body claiming it was for those suffering in Aleppo.

Today Senator Frantz Klintsevich, deputy chairman of the Russian upper chamber’s defence and security committee, said: “It was a planned action,” the Mail Online reported.

“Everyone knew that he was going to attend this photo exhibition. It can be ISIS, or the Kurdish army which tries to hurt Erdogan.

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“But may be – and it is highly likely – that representatives of foreign NATO secret services are behind it.

“What has happened is a true provocation, a challenge. It is a challenge for Russia.”

Footage taken after Altintas gunned down Karlov showed him chanting: “Do not forget Aleppo! Do not forget Syria!”

He also shouted “Allahu akbar,” the Arabic phrase for “God is great” and continued in Arabic: “We are the descendants of those who supported the Prophet Muhammad, for jihad.”


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Five Things to Worry About After the Assassination of Russia’s Ambassador to Turkey

http://www.ilknowledge.com/2016/12/five-things-to-worry-about-after.html?m=1

On Monday, Russian Ambassador to Turkey Andrey Karlov was assassinated at an art exhibit in Ankara, reportedly shot by Mevlut Mert Altinas, a police officer. According to at least one report, the gunman said “We’ll make you pay for Aleppo” before firing at the ambassador, likely referring to Russia’s backing of the Syrian government in its brutal siege of Aleppo.

So far, Russia and Turkey have said that this is a move meant to weaken ties between the two countries, and the U.S. Department of State said in a statement that it is ready to provide assistance to the two countries. It is unclear what will be said, or happen, next. But given tense relations between Ankara and Moscow over the past year, centuries of historical rivalry and animosity, and colliding foreign policies in the carnage of the Syrian civil war, there are a few potential escalatory scenarios to keep in mind.

1. Russian hackers target Turkey. Russia has a penchant for causing domestic political trouble in other countries through conveniently timed cyber hacks (just ask the United States). The Turkish government has been on the receiving end of such hacks before; on Dec. 7, Wikileaks released over 57,000 emails of Berat Albayrak, Turkey’s minister of energy and natural resources and also President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s son-in-law. With indications of Russia cooperating with Wikileaks to publicize hacked emails in the past, Russian cyber surrogates could target Turkey, revealing more unflattering secrets about people in the orbit of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

2.The already fragile relationship between Russia and Turkey could fall apart, leading to renewed economic pressure on Turkey. This is what happened after November 2015, when Turkish F-16s shot down a Russian bomber on the border of Syria. In response, Russia embargoed many Turkish goods, Turkish exports to Russia fell $737 million. Further, the Turkish Stream natural gas pipeline, meant to be part of the two countries’ “strategic partnership,” was put on hold. The economic situation did not improve until Erdogan apologized in June 2016.

3.The assassination is used as an excuse for further democratic repression in both Turkey and Russia. Erdogan detained thousands after the failed coup against his government this July, a putsch that included an attempt on his own life. Putin came to power in part by cracking down against perceived insubordination by violence in Chechnya. Whatever else, the assassination does not bode well for Russian or Turkish civil society.

4.The ceasefire in Aleppo collapses. Russia and Turkey are on opposite sides of the Syrian civil war, but both helped broker the latest ceasefire that allowed rebels and civilians to leave Aleppo. The assassination could cause the ceasefire collapse anew, or lead to renewed fighting elsewhere in Syria. Russian forces are operational in northeast Syria, not far from where Turkish troops have taken part in cross-border assaults on towns held by the Islamic State.

5.Russia plays the Kurdish card. Turkey is a NATO member, making it highly unlikely that Russia would consider starting an out and out war with Turkey itself. Karlov is probably not, in other words, another Archduke Franz Ferdinand. But Russia could use its historical ties with disaffected Kurdish populations in Turkey, including possible support for Kurdish militants, spurring more Kurdish terror attacks. On Saturday, a car bombing in central Turkey killed 13 soldiers and wounded 55. And on Dec. 11, two bombs went off in Istanbul that killed 39 and wounded 154. A Kurdish militant group claimed credit for the Istanbul attacks.

 

[Banglar Bir]

NEWS
Russian diplomat ‘found dead from gunshot wounds hours after ambassador’s death’
By: Will Stewart & Sophie Evans via mirror.co.uk

A Russian diplomat has been found dead from gunshot wounds at his home, it is reported.

Petr Polshikov, 56, was discovered with a bullet injury to his head at his flat in Moscow’s Balaklavsky Prospekt, according to local media.


The alleged shooting came just hours after the news broke of the assassination of Russian ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov.

Karlov was killed by his police protection officer who screamed “Allahu Akbar” and “Don’t forget Aleppo, don’t forget Syria.”

He was shot in the back by 22-year-old Turkish policeman Mevlut Mert Altintas in what Russia last night described as a “terrorist act”.

The diplomat was discovered with a bullet injury to his head at his flat in Moscow, according to local media (Photo: east2west News)

Emergency crews are pictured at the scene of the reported shooting at Balaklavsky Prospekt (Photo: east2west News)


In Polshikov’s shooting, reported by Ren TV early today, two empty bullet shells were found in the high-ranking diplomat’s flat.

A gun was also reportedly discovered under the sink in the bathroom.

The circumstances of the incident remain unclear, and it is understood police are examining all possible theories as to Polshikov’s death.

The diplomat’s wife was reportedly in the flat at the time of the shooting, but is safe.

Polshikov, 56, was a high-ranking diplomat (Photo: east2west News)

Two empty bullet shells were reportedly found in his apartment (Photo: east2west News)

Polshikov was said to be a senior figure in the Latin American department of the Russian foreign ministry.

Some reports claim he had left the Foreign Ministry, but it is unclear if he worked for any other branch of the Russian government.

He had served previously at the Russian embassy in Bolivia.

It comes as Britain has apparently been ‘blamed’ for Karlov’s assassination.

Russian ultranationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky claimed the attack was intended to stop an upcoming visit by Mr Erdogan to Moscow to seal closer ties with Mr Putin.

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Share on Facebook Tweet Emailassassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey while delivering remarks at an art museum in Ankara, with some no doubt recalling the similarities of the incident to the one that sparked World War I.

Fears of a broader world war being touched off by the horrible murder appear to have been quelled for the moment though, as Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erodgan over the phone shortly after the assassination, according to Reuters.

That, however, doesn’t mean that Putin and Russia will not retaliate for what Putin described as a deliberate provocation designed to disrupt the uneasy Russian-Turkish relationship and derail efforts to wind down the civil war in Syria.


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“A crime has been committed and it was without doubt a provocation aimed at spoiling the normalization of Russo-Turkish relations and spoiling the Syrian peace process which is being actively pushed by Russia, Turkey, Iran and others,” Putin declared. “There can only be one response – stepping up the fight against terrorism. The bandits will feel this happening.”

While praising slain Ambassador Andrei Karlov, Putin also revealed that he is sending investigators to Turkey to work hand-in-hand with Turkish officials, proclaiming, “We must know who directed the killer’s hand,” according to Newsmax.

Putin ordered security measures to be stepped up at Russian embassies and consulates around the world in case of further attacks, while also ordering extra security for Turkish diplomatic facilities in Russia, to guard against rogue attempts at retaliation by angry Russians.


According to the U.K. Express, the Russian Foreign Ministry is expected to raise the issue of the assassination with the United Nations Security Council immediately.

“There is no place for terrorism and we will be resolutely fighting against it,” stated a spokeswoman for the Russian Foreign Ministry.

In 1914,the Archduke Franz Ferdinand, presumptive heir to the throne of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, was assassinated in Sarajevo, Serbia, an act of terrorism that eventually drew all of Europe into World War I.

Though we appeared to be on the verge of a global conflagration after the terrible assassination of a Russian diplomat in Turkey, it would appear that radical Islamic terrorists are the only ones who should be afraid of Putin’s response to the atrocity.

 

[mike2000 is back]

I thought that my Turkish brothers are more sensible than an average Pakistani. This thread proved me wrong.

Every controversial event is perceived as a CIA or MOSSAD or MI6 led false flag operation without any focus on investigations.

Question should be asked why the killer was not arrested for interrogation? Why was he killed?

If Turkish brothers think that US is the root-cause of all problems in Turkey, why your country is still a member of NATO and have not declared war on the US? Why your country recognizes Israel?

Either act like an independent state and declare war on the US and/or Israel or quit being a paranoid girl.

Let us see how long the mighty Turkey will last while taking on the US and/or Israel. Idiots.

Couldnt have said it any better. You said it all. At least there are some very smart Pakistanis on here.
Well said.

 

[maximuswarrior]

The interesting thing would be to see what side does Pakistan pick among Russia and Turkey.

LOL What on earth has Pakistan got to do with all of this? Why are you Indians always so desperate to drag Pakistan in every single thread?

 

[-SINAN-]

I thought that my Turkish brothers are more sensible than an average Pakistani. This thread proved me wrong.

Every controversial event is perceived as a CIA or MOSSAD or MI6 led false flag operation without any focus on investigations.

Question should be asked why the killer was not arrested for interrogation? Why was he killed?

If Turkish brothers think that US is the root-cause of all problems in Turkey, why your country is still a member of NATO and have not declared war on the US? Why your country recognizes Israel?

Either act like an independent state and declare war on the US and/or Israel or quit being a paranoid girl.

Let us see how long the mighty Turkey will last while taking on the US and/or Israel. Idiots

• I don't remember anyone talking about Mossad or MI6
• Not every controversial event but the ones that is related to Gülenists.
• We didn't hear an official statement about the special force's operation. But my take is; ambassador was shot down and was lying on the ground. Terrorist had to be neutralized fast in order for paramedics to begin medical treatment.
• We are still in NATO because we have territorial disputes with Greece. Turkey alone versus NATO backed Greece is not a good option.
• Why shouldn't we recognize Israel ?
• Do you want us to decleare war on the world's superpower......okay, will do it. Just for you dear.

My countrymen can be emotional, especially when terrorists acts in our country. But only idiot here is you as you are speaking without any knowledge.

Now, kindly crawl back to the hole, where you came from.

 

[maximuswarrior]

• I don't remember anyone talking about Mossad or MI6
• Not every controversial event but the ones that is related to Gülenists.
• We didn't hear an official statement about the special force's operation. But my take is; ambassador was shot down and was lying on the ground. Terrorist had to be neutralized fast in order for paramedics to begin medical treatment.
• We are still in NATO because we have territorial disputes with Greece. Turkey alone versus NATO backed Greece is not a good option.
• Why shouldn't we recognize Israel ?
• Do you want us to decleare war on the world's superpower......okay, will do it. Just for you dear.

My countrymen can be emotional, especially when terrorists acts in our country. But only idiot here is you as you are speaking without any knowledge.

Now, kindly crawl back to the hole, where you came from.

Nothing can be ruled out. All these intelligence agencies aren't charity organizations. They are renowned for sowing chaos and bloodshed when it serves their interest and purpose. After the failed coup attempt which wasn't even condemned by Western powers one really questions their motive vis a vis Turkey. Anyone believing that Western powers are happy with a democratically elected Erdogan are kidding themselves. Erdogan is a strong leader who is willing to go toe to toe with Western powers to protect Turkish interests. He has demonstrated this assertiveness during every negotiation with Western powers. This bold behavior irks Western powers. They would rather have a subservient Turkey. One that nods "yes" and does exactly as Western powers demand. That obviously isn't going to happen.

Turkey is a strong country. It will work out why the attack occurred and hold the people accountable. Turkey won't cower or outsource its problems to another nation.

 

[brokk]

Quite frankly I think the moderators are sleeping on these posts, or is it OK to flame and make derogatory remarks here as long as it is against Turkey or Russia?