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Russian Air Force Is Very Effective In Ukraine
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No you can't take a bitter pill.
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The VKS is a failure in Ukraine. That is the real bitter pill.
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Ask fox news
Russia established “air superiority “ on day one of the operation. I think you are mistaking it with “air dominance”
Ukie airforce operates in an assymetric manner , its an extremely large country and its got non stop supply lines from nato.
If the us air force was facing a similar equation, they would have had enormous problems as well. They actually lost a significant number of aircraft to sanctioned , isolated iraq with obsolete air defenses
People need to stop watching hollywood movies
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Be it any country. Everyone specially their media propagate their military to be something invincible which is of course far from reality of horrors of war.
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Russia officially admits defeat in Kherson
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Disappointed Mini-Me didn't make an appearance in that Surovikin video.
The man looks perpetually constipated perhaps he needs a mini-me to improve his disposition.
Kherson..Shmerson Putin is winning
Kiev and Kharkov are close to international border. It does not take much to penetrate and bomb.
Ukraine has 100-120 Soviet era combat aircraft (MiG-29, Su-24/Su-25/Su-27)
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Poor operational performance and tactics - inadequate real world experience or relevant training other than very senior pilots.
Non existent cooperation with combined force elements - even coordinating within VKS has been terrible.
Lastly, the entire operational plan and execution was poor because the exercise that lead to the invasion had no resemblance to nor were coordination of an operational plan of the upcoming invasion.
Russian military commanders turned out to be yes men and nepotistic careerists than actual military tacticians or strategists.
RuAF has prevailed in air to air combat by large mostly due to superior aircraft (Su-35 vs Mig-29 and Su-27) but have been mauled by air defense systems because they lacked any cohesive OCA or SEAD campaign
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Russia never really employed the SEAD/DEAD missions
very poor targeting from advanced aircraft like Su35 and Su34
even Mig31 was poorly deployed
and this is why Russia is now withdrawing
this is exactly how you dont fight wars
Russia lost way too much
very poor targeting from advanced aircraft like Su35 and Su34
even Mig31 was poorly deployed
and this is why Russia is now withdrawing
this is exactly how you dont fight wars
Russia lost way too much
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Air Superiority and Air Dominance are synonymous terms.
VKS could not achieve Air Superority over Ukraine because Ukranian Air Force have survived and continues to intercept Russian military assets including aircraft, helicopters, UAVs and cruise missiles. VKS aircraft are also forced to operate at very low altitudes to avoid getting shot down by Ukranian A2/AD assets; this makes them less effective in their missions.
Ukranian Air Force did not receive any aircraft from NATO. It survived due to ingenuity of Ukranians.
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USAF is a far more potent force than VKS:
Russia’s Involvement In Syria Proves That It's Far Behind The Western World
Russia has made a lot of noise about the modern weapons it has used during combat in Syria and how effective these new weapons are. Fresh Su-34 attack jets scream through the skies, while the latest in small arms test their mettle. But the reality is most of what Russia has used is not as shiny...
jalopnik.com
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US fought two wars with Iraq:
1. Operation Desert Storm to liberate Kuwait from Iraq in 1991.
This was the time when Iraq had a well-equipped military force with extensive A2/AD arrangement(s).
Statistics of the NATO aircraft that were lost and/or suffered damage in Operation Desert Storm are provided in following link:
Coalition Fixed-Wing Attrition in Desert Storm
These losses are mainly attributed to Iraqi A2/AD assets. Only 1 NATO aircraft was lost to Iraqi Air Force.
Both USAF and USN created history with brilliant performance in Operation Desert Storm.
Air Power in the Gulf War
Exactly how effective and how decisive was the performance of air power during the desert war?
www.rand.org
The Winning of Air Supremacy in Operation Desert Storm
This article considers the main characteristics of the multinational coalition's campaign for air superiority; the campaign's effect on the subsequent course and outcome of the war; aspects of the campaign that were unique to the Gulf; ...
www.rand.org
Statistics of the Air-to-Air Victories of NATO aircraft in Operation Desert Storm are provided in following link:
Many more were destroyed on the ground. Some Iraqi pilots were demoralized to such extent that they chose to flee to Iran only for their aircraft to be confiscated by Iranian security forces. Iraqi Air Force was effectively crippled in this war.
2. Operation Iraqi Freedom to dismantle Saddam regime of Iraq in the (2003 - 2011) period.
This was the time when Iraq was sanctioned and isolated with obsolete air defenses in line with your description.
Only 1 NATO aircraft was lost to an Iraqi A2/AD asset in Baghdad in 2003. This was an A10 Warthog.
2003 - Operation Iraqi Freedom
After the attacks on September 11, 2001, and the overthrow of the Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, the United States Government turned its attention to Iraq and the regime of Saddam Hussein.
www.afhistory.af.mil
A total of 24 NATO aircraft were lost over Iraq in the (2003 - 2011) period: 23 of these to accidents.
Come on now.
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