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As someone pointed out what strikes the most is the lack of response from Russia's military.... What we only see is some police officers with AKs and rosgvardia.... the answer ? Majority of the Russian army (and the most loyal troops to Putin) is in Ukraine.
 
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Did Putin learn nothing from Machiavelli? He lived in the most tumultuous times and described Mercenaries as such…

“The fact is, they have no other attraction or reason for keeping the field than a trifle of stipend, which is not sufficient to make them willing to die for you. They are ready enough to be your soldiers whilst you do not make war, but if war comes they take themselves off or run from the foe; which I should have little trouble to prove, for the ruin of Italy has been caused by nothing else than by resting all her hopes for many years on mercenaries, and although they formerly made some display and appeared valiant amongst themselves, yet when the foreigners came they showed what they were. Thus it was that Charles, King of France, was allowed to seize Italy with chalk in hand;[*] and he who told us that our sins were the cause of it told the truth, but they were not the sins he imagined, but those which I have related. And as they were the sins of princes, it is the princes who have also suffered the penalty.” …


I wish to demonstrate further the infelicity of these arms. The mercenary captains are either capable men or they are not; if they are, you cannot trust them, because they always aspire to their own greatness, either by oppressing you, who are their master, or others contrary to your intentions; but if the captain is not skilful, you are ruined in the usual way.

And if it be urged that whoever is armed will act in the same way, whether mercenary or not, I reply that when arms have to be resorted to, either by a prince or a republic, then the prince ought to go in person and perform the duty of a captain; the republic has to send its citizens, and when one is sent who does not turn out satisfactorily, it ought to recall him, and when one is worthy, to hold him by the laws so that he does not leave the command. And experience has shown princes and republics, single-handed, making the greatest progress, and mercenaries doing nothing except damage; and it is more difficult to bring a republic, armed with its own arms, under the sway of one of its citizens than it is to bring one armed with foreign arms. Rome and Sparta stood for many ages armed and free. The Switzers are completely armed and quite free.”

I thought well of Putin, but in the end he is just a politician, only reactionary and not a visionary.
 
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Thats why Machiaveli was frimly against using mercenaries as part of Prince army ....
 
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:hitwall: Back than it was Russia that was getting invaded and Germans were invader. This time role is reversed. Fighting for homeland is totally different ball game then being invader. You conveniently forgot Afghanistan.
No I didn't....wagner are criminals. This will unite the Russians

Depth really mean nothing until someone try to attack Russia. Ukraine is not attacking Russia, it's the other way around.

The problem as Prigozhin pointed out, and as that 40 mile convoy we saw early on the war, is and always is the logistic issue. They can't supply enough for the troop on the frontline, and that's what exactly what Prigozhin has been complaining about. This is the problem, and the solution Putin offer is to basically off the only unit that make any in road in this war.......
Wagner is
 
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Please stop coming to Antalya. We are fully booked as a country, there is no vacancy. Thank you very much.
 
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As someone pointed out what strikes the most is the lack of response from Russia's military.... What we only see is some police officers with AKs and rosgvardia.... the answer ? Majority of the Russian army (and the most loyal troops to Putin) is in Ukraine.


Russia lost a city without firing a shot? Putin has no choice but to order his army in Ukraine to hurry back to Moscow to save the city. PRigozhin is hoping that Ukraine keeps the Russian army bogged down to provide him time to take Moscow? Which he cannot, hallmarks of an internal coup at play here Mr Putin probably has 24 hours to save his regime and himself.
 
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