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[sammuel]

Not the other points mentioned though

lol

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Then you are idiot who needs videos to acknowledge that settlers in palestine and western coalition around the wider regions comitted war crimes on regular basys.
But to indukge your idiotic request check the drone attack when USA run away from Kabul airport in last days.

Are you aware that to be a war crime, you have to intentionally attack a target which you know has zero military value.

I specifically asked for videos of people not engaging in activity which could be suspicious.
The drone attack was on people suspected of preparing an attack on innocent civilians.

Such attacks are legal because of the many war crimes committed by the Talibans where they make attacks while dressed as civilians.

How many Talibans have been convicted by the Talibans for their war crimes?

So far, one propaganda video which turned out to be fake has been shown. Then a legal attack, albeit a mistake has been mentioned.
It appear that there are not an abundance of videos around.

 

[SalarHaqq]

The unedited video.

which shows that the guys were armed to the teeth.

A part of the unedited video.
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another part of the unedited video.
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Not really.

In the recording, the helicopter crews can be heard discussing the scene on the street below. One American claims to have spotted six people with AK-47s and one with a rocket-propelled grenade. It is unclear if some of the men are armed but Noor-Eldeen can be seen with a camera. Chmagh is talking on his mobile phone.

One of the helicopter crew is then heard saying that one of the group is shooting. But the video shows there is no shooting or even pointing of weapons. The men are standing around, apparently unperturbed.

The lead helicopter, using the moniker Crazyhorse, opens fire. "Hahaha. I hit 'em," shouts one of the American crew. Another responds a little later: "Oh yeah, look at those dead bastards."

One of the men on the ground, believed to be Chmagh, is seen wounded and trying to crawl to safety. One of the helicopter crew is heard wishing for the man to reach for a gun, even though there is none visible nearby, so he has the pretext for opening fire: "All you gotta do is pick up a weapon." A van draws up next to the wounded man and Iraqis climb out. They are unarmed and start to carry the victim to the vehicle in what would appear to be an attempt to get him to hospital. One of the helicopters opens fire with armour-piercing shells. "Look at that. Right through the windshield," says one of the crew. Another responds with a laugh.

Wikileaks reveals video showing US air crew shooting down Iraqi civilians

Footage of July 2007 attack made public as Pentagon identifies website as threat to national security

www.theguardian.com

Cannot see proof of actual weapons being carried by the men in those blurry images.

As for the Afghanistan video, the Americans, after a suicide bombing at the Kabul airport, saw a lorry being loaded with what was suspected to be explosives, and attacked.
Typically such attacks are run through lawyers that determine an estimated military value.
Since a bomb this size would kill many hundreds of innocent civilians the estimated value was high.
It turned out that the ”explosives” were water containers.
To be a war crime, there must be intent.
Noone seriously believes that if the US Army got a call saying that civilians are loading water bottles in a pickup, the US would respond with a drone strike.

In other terms, there do exist videos that show US forces bombing peaceful unarmed civilians. Thanks for the admission.

Moreover the above quoted justification represents an official US regime statement. They were never independently verified. However considering the the US regime's affinity with lying, such corroboration is absolutely required to lend even a semblance of credibility to claims coming out of Washington.

Of course that's besides tons of other types of evidence for war crimes committed by NATO gunmen.

It does not appear to be beyond the Russians, considering how they bomb food stores.

That's nothing compared to the US regime, which officially considers starving to death half a million children (as in Iraq) an acceptable practice.

And the question remains: where are the supposed videos documenting the killing of peaceful Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces?

Another point of note, my mentioning of the footage in which Australian occupiers can be seen executing unarmed Afghan civilians was ignored.

 

[Vergennes]

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[mulj]

Are you aware that to be a war crime, you have to intentionally attack a target which you know has zero military value.

I specifically asked for videos of people not engaging in activity which could be suspicious.
The drone attack was on people suspected of preparing an attack on innocent civilians.

Such attacks are legal because of the many war crimes committed by the Talibans where they make attacks while dressed as civilians.

How many Talibans have been convicted by the Talibans for their war crimes?

So far, one propaganda video which turned out to be fake has been shown. Then a legal attack, albeit a mistake has been mentioned.
It appear that there are not an abundance of videos around.

.
Well you can spin it like yoyo ball it does not change fact that crimes are commited, such whataboutery concerning taliban crimes does not change it.



Onky thing which is busted here is you with your cheap advocasy and washing various crimes of western mikitary forces with ridicoulus requirments and when even that is indulged you twist it in whataboutism

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Not really.

In the recording, the helicopter crews can be heard discussing the scene on the street below. One American claims to have spotted six people with AK-47s and one with a rocket-propelled grenade. It is unclear if some of the men are armed but Noor-Eldeen can be seen with a camera. Chmagh is talking on his mobile phone.

One of the helicopter crew is then heard saying that one of the group is shooting. But the video shows there is no shooting or even pointing of weapons. The men are standing around, apparently unperturbed.

The lead helicopter, using the moniker Crazyhorse, opens fire. "Hahaha. I hit 'em," shouts one of the American crew. Another responds a little later: "Oh yeah, look at those dead bastards."

One of the men on the ground, believed to be Chmagh, is seen wounded and trying to crawl to safety. One of the helicopter crew is heard wishing for the man to reach for a gun, even though there is none visible nearby, so he has the pretext for opening fire: "All you gotta do is pick up a weapon." A van draws up next to the wounded man and Iraqis climb out. They are unarmed and start to carry the victim to the vehicle in what would appear to be an attempt to get him to hospital. One of the helicopters opens fire with armour-piercing shells. "Look at that. Right through the windshield," says one of the crew. Another responds with a laugh.

Wikileaks reveals video showing US air crew shooting down Iraqi civilians

Footage of July 2007 attack made public as Pentagon identifies website as threat to national security

www.theguardian.com

Cannot see proof of actual weapons being carried by the men in those blurry images.



In other terms, there do exist videos that show US forces bombing peaceful unarmed civilians. Thanks for the admission.

Of course that's besides tons of other types of evidence for war crimes committed by NATO gunmen.



That's nothing compared to the US regime, which considers starving to death half a million children (as in Iraq) an acceptable practice.

And the question remains: where are the videos supposedly documenting the killing of peaceful Ukrainian civilians by Russian forces?

Another point of note, my mentioning of the video that shows Australian occupiers executing unarmed Afghan civilians was ignored.

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The video show that they are armed.
That makes them a military target.

The presence of civilians in a military target does not protect the military target from attack.

There is no war crime called ”killing innocent civilians”.
Civilians die, when combatants jeopardize them.
That is why the Talibans and Al-Qaeda have significant responsibility for the civilian deaths in Afghanistan.

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Well you can spin it like yoyo ball it does not change fact that crimes are commited, such whataboutery concerning taliban crimes does not change it.



Onky thing which is busted here is you with your cheap advocasy and washing various crimes of western mikitary forces with ridicoulus requirments and when even that is indulged you twist it in whataboutism

Crimes according to you, but not according to Laws of Warfare.

 

[SalarHaqq]

The video show that they are armed.
That makes them a military target.

Cannot see it. Nor could the Guardian journalists. I very much doubt me and them are collectively suffering from ophthalmological dysfunctions.

The presence of civilians in a military target does not protect the military target from attack.

It is protected against disproportionate use of force.

There is no war crime called ”killing innocent civilians”.

I didn't employ this terminology.

However it seems you spoke of killing innocent civilians:

Civilians die, when combatants jeopardize them.

Or when trigger happy war criminals target them in cold blood.

That is why the Talibans and Al-Qaeda have significant responsibility for the civilian deaths in Afghanistan.

I haven't seen evidence of Taleban (who mostly fought in the countryside and mountains) putting too many civilians at risk during combat situations.

 

[thetutle]

OK I am not complaining. Go and play your games or fight your war in Ukraine.

But kindly enter into the battle scenes physically and not thru' proxies.

Why? what would be the purpose of that?

 

[gambit]

Yeah, Kharkiv is now a mop up, they have bugged out like they did with Kyiv. The Russian withdraw back to defend the rail junction

Back in WW II, JPN said its army conducted 'strategic withdrawals'. Here, the Russian Army is doing the same with the addition that the withdrawal is out of humanitarian concerns. So if Russia ultimately lose or stalemated it was because the Russian Army was too humane.

 

[Viet]

Nonsense they can export it the exact way they import weapons

No, it’s different routes.
The weapons come via lands.
Ukraine exports grains mostly via seas.
The EU now trying to get 25 million grains out via land routes.

 

[Clutch]

I dare you to produce a single video of a peaceful individual killed like this.

I am pretty sure you will produce videos of people killed after they or others in the vicinity has engaged in combat or otherwise acted in a threatening way.

 

[Viet]

It’s official over.
Ukraine won the battle of Charkiw.
The second victory.
After the battle of Kiew.

Ein ukrainischer Soldat inspiziert ein russisches Fahrzeug nahe Mala Rogan, östlich von Charkiw.© Sergey Bobok/AFP/Getty Images

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[Oldman1]

A grainy low-resolution video, and it's pretty much child's play for NATO intelligence agencies to stage a conversation involving some Bin Laden doppelganger. Also in that video, the person alleged to be Bin Laden seems to be suggesting they had prior knowledge of the attacks, and that they conducted calculations about the death toll based on this knowledge. But their statements don't go further than that, in other words no confession of having masterminded these attacks.

Not really.

In the recording, the helicopter crews can be heard discussing the scene on the street below. One American claims to have spotted six people with AK-47s and one with a rocket-propelled grenade. It is unclear if some of the men are armed but Noor-Eldeen can be seen with a camera. Chmagh is talking on his mobile phone.

One of the helicopter crew is then heard saying that one of the group is shooting. But the video shows there is no shooting or even pointing of weapons. The men are standing around, apparently unperturbed.

The lead helicopter, using the moniker Crazyhorse, opens fire. "Hahaha. I hit 'em," shouts one of the American crew. Another responds a little later: "Oh yeah, look at those dead bastards."

One of the men on the ground, believed to be Chmagh, is seen wounded and trying to crawl to safety. One of the helicopter crew is heard wishing for the man to reach for a gun, even though there is none visible nearby, so he has the pretext for opening fire: "All you gotta do is pick up a weapon." A van draws up next to the wounded man and Iraqis climb out. They are unarmed and start to carry the victim to the vehicle in what would appear to be an attempt to get him to hospital. One of the helicopters opens fire with armour-piercing shells. "Look at that. Right through the windshield," says one of the crew. Another responds with a laugh.

Wikileaks reveals video showing US air crew shooting down Iraqi civilians

Footage of July 2007 attack made public as Pentagon identifies website as threat to national security

www.theguardian.com

Cannot see proof of actual weapons being carried by the men in those blurry images.



I

Go to time index 3:42 where a guy is carrying an RPG when he turns. If you can't see that, you are either blind or ignorant.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Where is he claiming to have masterminded the attacks of September 11, 2001?

Go to time index 3:42 where a guy is carrying an RPG when he turns. If you can't see that, you are either blind or ignorant.

I'm blind or ignorant, professional journalists from some of the west's most famed mainstream media are blind or ignorant, of course.