Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

[Oldman1]

Does Ukraine have the ability to hit Russia with missiles?

No, unless Ukrainian aircraft with missiles were around.

 

[dBSPL]

Clashes are reported to have ceased (for now) in the center of Odessa.

Intense clashes continue in Mariopol.

 

[Trench Broom]

No, unless Ukrainian aircraft with missiles were around.

So Ukraine has nothing ground launched that can hit Russia? I mean they border each other, surely they have something?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

But by taking Ukraine, Russia then has more NATO nations on its border than if it did not invade.

What sort of logic is this. Why does NATO not retreat back to Germnany that way m\ad dog Putin will be far away near the Urals.

 

[Iñigo]

"I just can't believe the ruling elites in US, UK, France are risking third world war for what exactly?"

(2) Inertia, blind rage, blind passion: the Anglo-imperial oligarchy in London and Washington suffers from a very deep, pathological and incurable Russophobia that permeates everything

and

(1) Imperial arrogance

This Empire, AngloEmpire 2.0 (1945/67-)
has three gods, worships three gods:

Capitoline Triad - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

(1) imperial hybris
(2) corporatocracy
(3) "our colonial project" (Jabotinsky)

...

 

[Meengla]

Do you any links/resources/books/author names where we can read more about history from non-victor or neutral or even loser perspective ? Thank you so much.

No one resource. Such viewpoints are often found in the 'DarK Web' of the internet. You'd be branded a 'Nazi' or an 'Anti-Semite' or some 'conspiracy theorist' or worse would get into serious trouble with authorities. And I don't go to such places--no time. However, I follow events based on the 'psychology' of human nature. See my profile pic! You just have to watch a LOT of documentaries and in between you'd find the alternate version of events. Truth ALWAYS lies somewhere in between!!

 

[khail007]

So its like Iraq at the beginning of Gulf War 2 with lost of conventional forces, and then insurgency.

Afghan even do not have conventional forces at the time of USA/NATO aggression and occupation. Even the USA was calling them a handful of miscreants/rag-tag militia.
You are not grasping the idea, that is how much your equipment/weapon is worth to hold against the onslaught. In the case of the USA/NATO, they enjoyed state-of-the-art firepower, equipment, and weapon systems on the ground and in the air.

 

[Oldman1]

So Ukraine has nothing ground launched that can hit Russia? I mean they border each other, surely they have something?

Unless you count anti tank Javelin missiles and you were about a mile from Russian border.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I am actually surprised that the Russians took this long to react. Surely post Soviet Union the best option for all would have been to leave Eastern Europe as a buffer and zone of neutrality.

But NATO began marching east soon as the red hammer and sickle came down. It kept on rolling east and then even moved into what were ex-Soviet territories like Latvia, Estonia etc.

Then the chess game was set to checkmate Russia by moving into it;s underbelly in Ukraine - a region of historical Russia. That the Russkies took this level of provocation to react is indicative of how Russia had weakened as a state. Until finally Moscow thought 'enough is enough'.

I just can't believe the ruling elites in US, UK, France are risking third world war for what exactly? Over a ex-Russian territory on the fringes of Europe?

This is how miscalculations are made and millions die .... !

Thoughts @vostok Why did Russia just sleep while NATO rolled east?

 

[Bilal.]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496936306173169675

Man this gives the feel of the hill battle from the war of the world movie.

 

[Oldman1]

Afghan even do not have conventional forces at the time of USA/NATO aggression and occupation. Even the USA was calling them a handful of miscreants/rag-tag militia.
You are not grasping the idea, that is how much your equipment/weapon is worth to hold against the onslaught. In the case of the USA/NATO, they enjoyed state-of-the-art firepower, equipment, and weapon systems on the ground and in the air.

And what about Gulf War 2 I mentioned?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

• Ukraine began to distribute weapons to the civilian population for self-defense.
• Almost all of the Russian troops entering from the south of Ukraine are Chechens (Kadyrov militants). This is one of the most distressing issues for Ukrainian people.

Kadyrov’s dogs are nothing to worry about. Last time they came in 2015 half of them left in shoppers(plastic bags) and the other half ran away.

Plus the Ukrainians have Sheikh Mansur’s men(real chechens) fighting for them. They are the actual battle hardened veterans from the wars in Chechnya and they want russian blood.

This is them:

 

[Deino]

You missed the whole point of my conversation and merely concluded as such because a poster tagged you. I have already explained the point being discussed regarding Nazism and how the same is among the list of reasons for Russia to attack Ukraine. One of the reasons... and in-fact, only a savage will support war against civilians.

Then I owe you a sincere apology, but I must admit, not only the events today hit me hard but also some extremely annoying and hurting comments from some members simply since it is so easy, one a German, always a Nazi!

Sorry my friend.

 

[RescueRanger]

This is very true but Ukraine is in class of it's own. It is the motherlode of Nazis. I was reminded of this when a old British Pakistan man was murdered because a individual took thought that all people of colour should be kicked out of Britain.

The irony was the guy was not even a native Britain. In fact he was not EVEN a British resident. A Ukrainian living in Ukraine was constipated about minorties in UK.

And went as far as to move to UK so that he could go to war against Muslims.

Mosque bomber Pavlo Lapshyn given life for murder

Ukrainian student Pavlo Lapshyn is jailed for at least 40 years for murdering an 82-year-old man and carrying out a series of mosque bombings.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's not just Ukraine, the entire Slavic belt is particularly racist, having been to this part of the world one word they use for darker skinned people such as the roma's, Armenians and Moldovans is tsygan which is an insult meaning "gypsy" or "invader".

This is not a new phenomenon, in the 1940's fueled by Hitler and Goebbels rabid propaganda and the master plan of Himmler the Slavic people committed one of the largest genocides in the history of the holocaust:

Not everyone in this region is of such mind but the majority are and this stems around the history of fascism in the entire region. John Connelly wrote at length about this in his paper "Nazis and Slavs: From Racial Theory to Racist Practice"

You can read the article here:

Nazis and Slavs: From Racial Theory to Racist Practice on JSTOR

John Connelly, Nazis and Slavs: From Racial Theory to Racist Practice, Central European History, Vol. 32, No. 1 (1999), pp. 1-33

www.jstor.org

 

[Trench Broom]

Unless you count anti tank Javelin missiles and you were about a mile from Russian border.

Wow, that is amazing that for 8 years since Crimea they haven't invested in missiles. Sad.

What sort of logic is this. Why does NATO not retreat back to Germnany that way m\ad dog Putin will be far away near the Urals.

The logic is, if he expands westwards he encounters more NATO nations. So his excuse for invasion is bogus. Ukraine isn't in NATO and discussions on this had basically ended.
So Russia takes Ukraine and all of a sudden, it has NATO members on its borders. Guess what Russia needs to do then for 'security'....take out Poland etc.