What's new

Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments

Status
Not open for further replies.
Yes indeed one should retreat and hide, but it depends on how much firepower you hold against the onslaught forces. Here though Ukrainian forces are weak but have significant systems/weapons to resist against Russians.
Against USA/NATO aggression on Afghanistan, if the Taliban tried to hold, it could be suicidal because they only have AK47s/RPGs/Grenades.
So both are different scenarios, one could not compare it with Afghans. It was their legitimate right to meltdown at that time. But later they proved their mettle.

So its like Iraq at the beginning of Gulf War 2 with lost of conventional forces, and then insurgency.
 
.
This is like saying 'Biden wants to re-establish a modern mash up of Roman Empire meets British Empire with Washington as the new Rome.

When ever the lying media describes an antagonist as 'mad', it means that they are trying to hide the real reason behind events.

How often has the BBC mentioned the 'eastward expansion of Nato'?
 
.
Respectfully, I disagree.
The more one has to lose, the less they would want to lose. The Afghan Taliban prevailed because they had so little to lose after 9/11. Yes, one might say that 'life' is the ultimate loss for a human being but when you are cornered and your religion gives you a 'way out' via 'martyrdom'--a concept still runs very strong in Muslims worldwide--then the fighters like the Taliban would give any sacrifice to fight--and they fought hard. Forget the spoiled-from-the-modernity Ukrainians of now--even in the 1940s the French--a Superpower of its time--had large, if not the majority of its population capitulate before the Nazis and actively, if not purposefully collaborated with the occupiers. That aspect of France and many, if not most other European countries who were under the Nazi rule, is deliberately downplayed in the history which is, as all history is, written by the victors.

Unless we start to see historical events in more neutral ways instead of from the victors' version, unless we get to the root causes of wars, unless we realize that given similar circumstances, all humans would act similarly, we will continue to see wars. BTW, this war will be remembered in history as it broke the 80+ year old status quo in Europe--and perhaps in the world at large.

Do you any links/resources/books/author names where we can read more about history from non-victor or neutral or even loser perspective ? Thank you so much.
 
.
However also fact is, that other countries - including France, the USA and Russia itself
This is very true but Ukraine is in class of it's own. It is the motherlode of Nazis. I was reminded of this when a old British Pakistan man was murdered because a individual took thought that all people of colour should be kicked out of Britain.

The irony was the guy was not even a native Britain. In fact he was not EVEN a British resident. A Ukrainian living in Ukraine was constipated about minorties in UK.

And went as far as to move to UK so that he could go to war against Muslims.

 
. .
You're missing the point. This isn't about protecting ethnic Russians, although it is a factor. It's about stopping a NATO owned Ukraine deploying nuclear weapons on Russia's border. This was never achieved diplomatically due to Nato, so the Russians are achieving this by force.
LOL! There are multiple NATO countries that borders Russia and have no nukes deployed there. Because of what Russia is doing, it's going to be a different story.
 
. .
  • Ukraine began to distribute weapons to the civilian population for self-defense.
  • Almost all of the Russian troops entering from the south of Ukraine are Chechens (Kadyrov militants). This is one of the most distressing issues for Ukrainian people.
 
.
I am actually surprised that the Russians took this long to react. Surely post Soviet Union the best option for all would have been to leave Eastern Europe as a buffer and zone of neutrality.

But NATO began marching east soon as the red hammer and sickle came down. It kept on rolling east and then even moved into what were ex-Soviet territories like Latvia, Estonia etc.
But by taking Ukraine, Russia then has more NATO nations on its border than if it did not invade.
 
.
Ukrainian country will be broken now and no recognition from abroad of new puppet regime. Makes it all pointless loss lives destruction to it.

And Russian economy will be totally broken by the time putin claims over to get out. Sanctions will not end now for him west will not settle until his removal and his regime

By taking Ukraine he’s now bordering nato Poland lol , something he was fighting not to happen.
 
. .
  • Ukraine began to distribute weapons to the civilian population for self-defense.
  • Almost all of the Russian troops entering from the south of Ukraine are Chechens (Kadyrov militants). This is one of the most distressing issues for Ukrainian people.
Don't forget the Belarusian forces coming in north.
 
. .
Ukrainian country will be broken now and no recognition from abroad of new puppet regime. Makes it all pointless loss lives destruction to it.

And Russian economy will be totally broken by the time putin claims over to get out. Sanctions will not end now for him west will not settle until his removal and his regime
The west can't agree on meaningful sanctions and Germany relies on Russian fuel. Sanctions will be superifcial.
 
. .
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom