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All post-Soviet countries need to run from Russian's influence-except for blood and pain, Russia gave them nothing. She even betrayed her ally Armenia in 2020.
do you believe it can upgrade to be better than a new T-72 ? (with what is available and at reasonable cost and time)
that option , wonder if NATO go in war with Russia if Russia target such factory ?
I believe so. With its 120mm gun and upgraded armor and sensors to see the T-72 first and kill it.
They will bomb the Russians in Ukraine to death because that is Article 5 right there.
is it possible ? after all its the engine Continental AVDS-1790-2 V12, air-cooled twin-turbo diesel engine. 750 bhp (560 kW) Power/weight. how much armor is feasible for it , will the armor become more robust than a modern T-72b3m have Relkit rewactive armor , a V-92S2F 1,130 hp (840 kW) , have guided missiles , have thicker armor than those m60 and still is a death trap that won't last against , any top attack or lateral attack by last generation or frontal attack by modern ATGM
From what I'm reading by rumors or officially, many of the countries with Leopard 2s are will to give them to Ukraine but only with Germany's blessing. And Germany so far has said it was an escalation since tanks are considered in their view as offensive weaponry which is dumb considering they sent M270s and and PZH2000s and even Marders which can be offensive weaponry and Ukraine is only interested in pushing the Russians out and regaining territory. Not heading towards Moscow with the Leopard tanks! I think they are just waiting for U.S. to take the plunge or lead against any Russian response. Now Germany sending Marders is very promising, which I think they did it because the U.S. and France were willing to send in their IFVs at the same time. Now obviously we don't have Leos or Russian tanks to donate. But if its possible to send in M60s and more Bradleys and M113s along with more M109s SPGs and M198 tow howitzers, maybe it could persuade Germany to allow other countries to send in Leopard 2s since obviously diesel engines but they can be repaired close to home since there are repair facilities all over Europe especially those bordering Ukraine.
Even the most modern tanks have weak armor on the top. Hence why they have APS for handle such a threat. Even Israel can only put so much armor on their tanks.
You see Ukraine and Russian people and you can't see differences between, they are exactly equal, the same physically, mentally and culturally.
Western propaganda presenting Ukrainians as saints and Russian as devils is ridiculous.
Even more it's ridiculous when they try to identify Ukrainian people with West European people.
We are different from Ukrainain, but Ukrainian are exactly the same than Russian.
But American propaganda lie machine is working hard. They need to West European feel identified with the Ukrainian.
It's what Soros call Reflexivity. Dumbshit West European must feel that Ukraine war is a war against them, and that's way to make in the future a real war in West Europe against Russia.
Soros: General Theory of Reflexivity
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Putin wants to destroy the EU. Why should anyone in the EU love him? We are not mad. If a thief wants to steal your property killing your family will you love him? He begins the war. Nobody puts a gun on his head to force him to begin the war. Almost all European gov chiefs visited him in Moscow to beg him not to start the war. Don’t blame other.
Correction he did not "begin" the war but joined it when his proxies started losing in Ukraine.
It's a feedback thing, maybe in the beginning it was not against europe, but it will end that way.
Keep EU/Russia economic relations keep the peace.
Ukraine/Russia problem is like Catalonia/Spain problem.
