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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

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In history had never been more money put into building up a defeated country as in afghanistan.
Life expectancy, literacy, education, all increased because of that.
They were left an army and weaponry that dwarfed the taliban. Eventually they have to fight for themselves.

But apparentely education for their daughters was not enough motivation to fight.
How different are things with the ukranians.


So again. Where is the “humilitation”???undefeated in battle. Losing almost no soldiers and controlling the vast population centres with a modest force???
But simply failing to motivate the afghans to resist taliban?


It is more than understandable that after staying there for 20 years the Americans pulled out.

But those you argue with here, would criticize to US either way. If they stayed they would say they where occupying Afghanistan. If they leave - they desert the Afghan people to the Taliban.

What is not understandable is how some are so blinded by hate to the US , that they Are willing to see a nation of 80 million people ruined.

Ukraine who most who commented here, probably never had any dealing with or issues in the past , still they would like to see it destroyed to satisfy some thirst to see US fail.

Why should Ukraine pay the price for that ?




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You see the difference between the Ukrainians and Afghans. The Ukrainians fight for their future and integration with the West. The Afghans would rather live in backwardness and poverty. Afghanistan is a failure because of its people.
Correct.

No amount of money, for food or education or weapons, can change the country if the people is either unwilling and/or unable to change. The world, not just Americans, is now %99.999 convinced that the Afghanis failed their country. Compare to Viet Nam? Intel is in Viet Nam, is Toshiba going to be in Afghanistan? Ukraine is more an advanced country with a more sophisticated people than Afghanistan. Politically incorrect? Yes. True? Also yes. So which is more important, the hurt feelings or the truth? The Vietnam War ended poorly for both Viet Nam and the US. It took 50 yrs but like it or not, the Viets just tread their collective toes into the US sphere of influence.
 
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In history had never been more money put into building up a defeated country as in afghanistan.
Life expectancy, literacy, education, all increased because of that.
They were left an army and weaponry that dwarfed the taliban. Eventually they have to fight for themselves.

But apparentely education for their daughters was not enough motivation to fight.
How different are things with the ukranians.


So again. Where is the “humilitation”???undefeated in battle. Losing almost no soldiers and controlling the vast population centres with a modest force???
But simply failing to motivate the afghans to resist taliban?

The soviet union collapsed due to Afghanistan.. And you got defeated there is no excuse in that... But in your defense tho it was an extreme terrain which is probably the major underlaying reason and had the terrain been different it would have been a walk in the park for ze-americans.. It takes out heavy weaponry out of the picture.. You gotta go on foot to the wilderness and mountains.

IEA easily outlasted NATO just like the Soviet and just like how they did that previously against the British. What they do it is not a fluke but measured.. If you do it once it can be labelled a fluke but not if you do it 3 times in row..

They are good in the wear and tear with a good longevity capability...

If Ukraine lacks any form of longevity the Russians will win.. In my honest opinion they should breach themselves for a long-azz fight in this way they may actully win.. But most of the ukrainians are showing signs of fatigue..

If you wanna win learn from these with experience the secret lays in longevity... Afghanistan technically liberated Ukraine in the 90s
 
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You see the difference between the Ukrainians and Afghans. The Ukrainians fight for their future and integration with the West. The Afghans would rather live in backwardness and poverty. Afghanistan is a failure because of its people.

Exactly.

Ukraine will never fight with the NATO states of Europe which are helping them.
But the mentality and religion play very negative role in this part, and soon we will see Taliban fighting with other Afghans, and then Taliban will fight with Iran and even with Pakistan.

Already Taliban supported TTP killed thousands of Pakistanis and also killed thousands of other Afghans.

All the sane Western people should leave places like Afghanistan and Pakistan as they will destroy themselves sooner or later.
 
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Exactly.

Ukraine will never fight with the NATO states of Europe which are helping them.
But the mentality and religion play very negative role in this part, and soon we will see Taliban fighting with other Afghans, and then Taliban will fight with Iran and even with Pakistan.

Already Taliban supported TTP killed thousands of Pakistanis and also killed thousands of other Afghans.

All the sane Western people should leave places like Afghanistan and Pakistan as they will destroy themselves sooner or later.

What kind of trash is this bs..

Try to enter into an animals cave and try to take it over you will immediately find yourself in a fight... It is idiotic to assume otherwise even if the other party don't share your opinion..

They are from a different civilization they don't share values with all these folks and they have no intention of doing so..

There is no force each man can keep his own way of life and culture.. But thinking otherwise means first you have low-IQ to understand your surroundings and second of all you are probably deluded...

It is delusional to think or assume everything western civilization is holy bible.. When I see people type shxt like that I see it as if they are either kids like that greek PDF member where the other greeks in this website didn't even like him because he was to young and childish....

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It is more than understandable that after staying there for 20 years the Americans pulled out.

But those you argue with here, would criticize to US either way. If they stayed they would say they where occupying Afghanistan. If they leave - they desert the Afghan people to the Taliban.

What is not understandable is how some are so blinded by hate to the US , that they Are willing to see a nation of 80 million people ruined.

Ukraine who most who commented here, probably never had any dealing with or issues in the past , still they would like to see it destroyed to satisfy some thirst to see US fail.

Why should Ukraine pay the price for that ?




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Hypocrite. The US openly state that their policy is to weaken Russia, is the US who is using Ukraine as cannon fodder simply to kill as many Russians as possible. So who is really sacrificing the Ukrainians?
 
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Correct.

No amount of money, for food or education or weapons, can change the country if the people is either unwilling and/or unable to change. The world, not just Americans, is now %99.999 convinced that the Afghanis failed their country. Compare to Viet Nam? Intel is in Viet Nam, is Toshiba going to be in Afghanistan? Ukraine is more an advanced country with a more sophisticated people than Afghanistan. Politically incorrect? Yes. True? Also yes. So which is more important, the hurt feelings or the truth? The Vietnam War ended poorly for both Viet Nam and the US. It took 50 yrs but like it or not, the Viets just tread their collective toes into the US sphere of influence.

LOL

If Ukrainians were Muslims, will NATO support it the same way? The answer is NO. NATO countries rejected Muslim Syrian refugees but accept Christian Ukranian refugees.
 
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You see the difference between the Ukrainians and Afghans. The Ukrainians fight for their future and integration with the West. The Afghans would rather live in backwardness and poverty. Afghanistan is a failure because of its people.

Lmao this is one of the most deluded posts I have come by.... This is so delusional that is boundary less..

People generally can't smell their own shxt perhaps it is time to do it now....

They didn't want your democrazy or whatever you were promoting.. The answer was simple get away.. It is like running into a H-witnesses and they are in your face telling you to give me some mins yada yada while you are busy... The answer is simple just get out of my face... Whatever you believe in or think is good for your people then it is all good... you go do that for yourself but don't bring that shxt to others..

The answer would be ''I am different'' Respect this it is really that simple

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LOL

If Ukrainians were Muslims, will NATO support it the same way? The answer is NO. NATO countries rejected Muslim Syrian refugees but accept Christian Ukranian refugees.
Afghanistan and Iraq are Muslims. And look how much money we spent in both countries. You can laugh at US all you want, but in the end, as in what happens AFTER we left, the joke will turn away from US and into countries where we supposedly 'failed'.

Intel is in Viet Nam. When will Toshiba, or SMIC, be in Afghanistan or Iraq? Those burqas are not going to work in the cleanrooms. :lol:
 
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