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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

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Meengla said:
The war will end when America stops funding it. Period!

A Republican win is still very difficult: Look at what happened during the recent mid-term elections? Republican scraped by a thin majority despite all the woes affecting America. As long as Democrats keep giving freebies: Illegal immigration, student loan write off and various other goodies to different segments of the society, Democrats have a very good chance. But then the Republicans, in their current form, are only slightly less war-mongering. When it comes to bombing the crap out of people far away, they are alike. And why not? War is big business in America!!

I posted a video of Steve Bannon above. There is still hope if his minority MAGA voice makes a difference.
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The War will not end until Russia leave or destroyed. Period!

Sending Arms to ukraine is as bipartisan as it get. With majority of US citizens supporting it.

And even if somehow the US stopped sending weapons the Europeans & others even Pakistan would gladly give or sell them.
 
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That Guy said:
I know, trust me I know the system very well.

Trump will lose the electoral college vote, we got indications of this during the mid term elections where the Republicans should have dominated, but ended up failing miserably.


That's if Trumpnis even allowed to contest future elections in the first place.
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Republican won the electoral college don't know what are you talking about.
They control the house

Reashot Xigwin said:
The War will not end until Russia leave or destroyed. Period!

Sending Arms to ukraine is as bipartisan as it get. With majority of US citizens supporting it.

And even if somehow the US stopped sending weapons the Europeans & others even Pakistan would gladly give or sell them.
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War will end when USA citizens say no more. And it's coming soon

Neither ukriane can fight without USA assistance nor Europeans are ready to even shell out a penny for war.
 
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Meengla said:
I don't know why that guy dragged Pakistan into this war? From the comments, there are plenty of Pakistanis who hate Russia due to the once India-Russia alliance and the Soviet-Afghan war. Pakistan and most of the 'global South' don't have much of interest in this yet another European war beyond seeing this damned war stop because it is hurting the poor countries!!

My own interest is to see the NeoCons sitting in Washington humbled, removed from power and destroyed. They are the instigators and the engine of this war as they have been in most wars involving the Eurasian continent and the MENA region. And I firmly believe there are rising voices in America who see the danger of the 'Military Industrial Complex' going too far.

I paid around $20,000 in Federal and State taxes total in each of the last two years. Where is the benefit to me?? Damn war-mongers and the so-called 'veterans' got some of my money. Leeches. This needs to stop!
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I would have thought that living next to a country that wanted your land on the basis of persecuting minority would made you sympathize with the Ukrainians?

This is not about economic or political issue sahib, This is pure morality. Should we let country just outright annex part of a country or the whole like Russia planned from the beginning. Just because they're in the mood for invading.

So far a lot of dum-dum brown skins from from the globo south & red hats from the north think we should just let Russia annex a country.
 
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Meengla said:
You need to think above the weaponry and battle-field tactics, which you often seem to do in this thread--and with great many words. As I said once, you could write the 'Tilism e Hoshruba' original 8000 pages fictional story with your posts on this war alone! ;)

Europe is 'giving' because America has asked them to 'contribute'. Nothing new. Trump had arm-twisted Europe into contributed more to NATO. You are confused between 'cause and effect' here. We can go back to the early 2022 to see that the continental European powers were trying to avoid the war while the Brits, as always being sheltered from the Continental wars, were the American poodles for the war.
Europe did nothing when Russia bombed Georgia and is still occupying parts of that country indirectly and Europe would have done NOTHING had there not been the American backing.
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Trump failed to ”arm-twist” Europe with the possible exception of the Baltic states.
NATO started to increase their budgets after the US under Barack Obama convinced the the rest to set an ambition to increase the defense budgets to 2% by 2024.
The budgets have increased as a percentage every year, but under Trump, the rate of increase went down, only to return under Biden (which is of course due to Putin)
 
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The SC said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1638172656414633985

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638172724798574594
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Russia overtook the west?

I have no problem with a more multipolar world with china and india rising up.
Its inevitable when these massive populations are developing.
And I am no fan of USA anyway.


But russia? Russia will turn into the junior partner to china.
Its army crushed in ukraine. Its sphere of influence cut back (bye bye ukraine, kazachstan, armenia, perhaps belarussia in future) its economy taking a massive hit.

And china does not play around. It will take/steal technology. It will take influence and assets in return for any “friendship”. It will set terms.

No russia will crash and burn…much worse then the west.
 
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ZeGerman said:
Russia overtook the west?

I have no problem with a more multipolar world with china and india rising up.
Its inevitable when these massive populations are developing.
And I am no fan of USA anyway.


But russia? Russia will turn into the junior partner to china.
Its army crushed in ukraine. Its sphere of influence cut back (bye bye ukraine, kazachstan, armenia, perhaps belarussia in future) its economy taking a massive hit.

And china does not play around. It will take/steal technology. It will take influence and assets in return for any “friendship”. It will set terms.

No russia will crash and burn…much worse then the west.
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look what US did to Iraq

and as a result of that invasion many terrorist groups came into power

all blame goes to US
 
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ZeGerman said:
Russia overtook the west?

I have no problem with a more multipolar world with china and india rising up.
Its inevitable when these massive populations are developing.
And I am no fan of USA anyway.


But russia? Russia will turn into the junior partner to china.
Its army crushed in ukraine. Its sphere of influence cut back (bye bye ukraine, kazachstan, armenia, perhaps belarussia in future) its economy taking a massive hit.

And china does not play around. It will take/steal technology. It will take influence and assets in return for any “friendship”. It will set terms.

No russia will crash and burn…much worse then the west.
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Russia has no one to blame but themselves. They would rather be slave to the chinese than a partner to the west. I mean who does that?
 
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