Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Oldman1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636361446052478976

Takes a grenade to the face

He thought it was some bug on his face while sleeping.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636494548896497664

Send in the F16 Fighter Jets

F-16s with JDAM-ERs.

 

[That Guy]

He's Iranian, and they think Russia is winning.

Aah, that explains it. He can't argue against facts so he's choosing to troll.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636544749073997824

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636407078364524544

 

[TopGun786]

It's not the first Russian lie.

But if you count Americans lies and Russian lies, Americans win.
If you count Americans lies and everybody else lies, Americans win.
If you count Americans lies and the rest of universe lies, Americans win again.

USA is the most liar empire in mankind history, that's his main feature.

It's not the first Russian lie.

But if you count Americans lies and Russian lies, Americans win.
If you count Americans lies and everybody else lies, Americans win.
If you count Americans lies and the rest of universe lies, Americans win again.

USA is the most liar empire in mankind history, that's his main feature.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Viet]

Shortsighted analysis as always. The people of the Donbas were content until their democratically elected government was overthrown and replaced via a regime change operation with a clown high on cocaine. He put restrictions on the orthodox Church, limited the use of Russian Language and allowed the people of the Donbass to get murdered and oppressed. Under the UN charter Russia is perfectly in its right to intervene and assist the oppressed people.
Ukraine should have thought about the repercussions of their actions before, but it's too late now. Russia will succeed in its mission to bring the Donbass and its people under its protection and there is jack shyte anyone can do about it. Anything above this objective is upto Ukraine. The longer they reject this new reality, the more they will lose in life and territory.

That’s a very lame excuse. Russia can’t invade a country because of language imperialism. Ukraine has the right to advance own language and culture. French language was the primary language in Germany in administration, Chinese language in Vietnam. You are ok if France, China to kill people in Germany and Vietnam? Because the central governments enforce German and Vietic? Who gives Russia the right to enforce own language in other countries?

Peaceful protests are ok. Lots of protests in Europe everyday here Europe. But we can’t tolerate separatism.

The Donbas separatists get money and weapons from Moscow. they won’t survive a week against Ukraine army.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

to me looked like the pilot was not that familiar with its aircraft. and come nearer to the drone than what he originally intended and as result the drone get damaged

The pilot was obviously trying to interfere with the drone.
He was violating common safety standards and should be prosecuted.
He is only saved by living in a deeply corrupt state.

 

[Battlion25]

That’s a very lame excuse. Russia can’t invade a country because of language imperialism. Ukraine has the right to advance own language and culture. French language was the primary language in Germany in administration, Chinese language in Vietnam. You are ok if France, China to kill people in Germany and Vietnam? Because the central governments enforce German and Vietic? Who gives Russia the right to enforce own language in other countries?

Peaceful protests are ok. Lots of protests in Europe everyday here Europe. But we can’t tolerate separatism.

The Donbas separatists get money and weapons from Moscow. they won’t survive a week against Ukraine army.

War is not based on cartoon.. I am not saying they are on par with the Ukraine armed forces but the rebels and Ukraine have been fighting for almost a year without Russia back in 2014 until 2015 and they were pushed back into two enclaves in Luhansk and Donetsk by the Ukrainian armed forces in the Donbass region who gained the upper hand after a tough 1 year fight But they fought fiercerely which ended with a ceasefire due to Russian threats but Ukraine armed forces could have defeated them anyways but still it would have taken them another 2 years.

They had small population of 2.5 million combined in Luhansk and Donetsk controlled rebel areas..

Conventional warfare's are never based on filmsy outcomes such as one entity doing Son Goku style rollover or going super-Saiyan.

when two large groups clash it comes down to alot of factors and it mostly ends in prolonged meat grind.

Anyone with a brain on his head and who understands conventional military warfare probabilities knew on before hand that Russia-Ukraine conflict would be a meat grinder. I do however believe that Russia will come on top but not now they need atleast another 6-7 more years of grinding.

Example look at Syria and Vietnam. It took 10 cruelling war with Russia involved and later US against non-state actors who aren't armed to the teeth except having what is necessary and it resulted in some form of a stalemate and alot of people never used that conflict as an example to study modern day conflict probablities. The war in Vietnam was going on for 20 years until a winner was found.

Also size doesn't mean anything or everything because a nation of 30-40 million can defeat a nation of 100-120 million if they are well organized and have the grid, manouveribility and tactical know how to outlast the bigger one and come out as the clear winner after approximately a 10-15 years of meat grinder and conquer the larger country in total but hey victory won't happen tho I mean on both ends only after approx 10 years of fighting minimum where both sides are skinned to the bones and maximum is 15 years of continued conventional warfare

 

[ZeGerman]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636544749073997824

https://twitter.com/x/status/1636407078364524544

Hahaha that kim dotcom also went off the edge.

USA spends 10% of its military budget.
0,4% GDP.
Gains more control of european allies.
(Buying american gas and military hardware).
Europe starts paying for its own defense umbrella as wel


Russia loses half of its armor.
Russia has to allocate greater part of GDP to fund war.

Putin’s War Costs: Shifting the Burden to the Population

www.wilsoncenter.org

On all counts..this is an extremely cheap way for the USA to have russia cut to size….

 

[BHAN85]

If you count how many lies the Russians have been spouting since the war started from 2014 til now, the Russians win. From genocide against Russian speakers to 8 years of bombardment on Donetsk to Ukrainian spies with 3 sim cards to false flag bombings in the so called DNR and LNR to invading Russia itself and why they have large forces that were exercises that were in perfect place and timing to retaliate.

Well, about Ukraine conflict Russia is more liar, because Russia is more affected.

But about whole world conflicts USA is the winner in all known mankind history, they dont only lie more, they say bigger (hugest) lies, starting by 911 self-attacks (the world never saw a huge lie like that before).

About Ukraine conflict we have the American lie of the Nordstream blast. A piss in the face of all European "allies" (vassals).

But it's true that Russia lies are more and worst than USA lies in Ukraine conflict, one of worst Russian lies was the MH17 shoot down. So this is not the first neither worst Russian lie in the conflict.

 

[Viet]

War is not based on cartoon.. I am not saying they are on par with the Ukraine armed forces but the rebels and Ukraine have been fighting for almost a year without Russia back in 2014 until 2015 and they were pushed back into two enclaves in Luhansk and Donetsk by the Ukrainian armed forces in the Donbass region who gained the upper hand after a tough 1 year fight But they fought fiercerely which ended with a ceasefire due to Russian threats but Ukraine armed forces could have defeated them anyways but still it would have taken them another 2 years.

They had small population of 2.5 million combined in Luhansk and Donetsk controlled rebel areas..

Conventional warfare's are never based on filmsy outcomes such as one entity doing Son Goku style rollover or going super-Saiyan.

when two large groups clash it comes down to alot of factors and it mostly ends in prolonged meat grind.

Anyone with a brain on his head and who understands conventional military warfare probabilities knew on before hand that Russia-Ukraine conflict would be a meat grinder. I do however believe that Russia will come on top but not now they need atleast another 6-7 more years of grinding.

Example look at Syria and Vietnam. It took 10 cruelling war with Russia involved and later US against non-state actors who aren't armed to the teeth except having what is necessary and it resulted in some form of a stalemate and alot of people never used that conflict as an example to study modern day conflict probablities. The war in Vietnam was going on for 20 years until a winner was found.

Also size doesn't mean anything or everything because a nation of 30-40 million can defeat a nation of 100-120 million if they are well organized and have the grid, manouveribility and tactical know how to outlast the bigger one and come out as the clear winner after approximately a 10-15 years of meat grinder and conquer the larger country in total but hey victory won't happen tho I mean on both ends only after approx 10 years of fighting minimum where both sides are skinned to the bones and maximum is 15 years of continued conventional warfare

Ukraine army is not the same as in the past. The Donbas separatists have zero chance to survive a week. Previously Ukraine gov was a stooge of Moscow. Ukraine army was not existent that’s why Russia took Crimea and occupy Donbas without a fight. Putin becomes angry because he lost Russian stooges in Kiew, NATO beginning deliver trainings and weapons.

Before starting the invasion last year 2022 the Russians staged sabotage actions across Ukraine, decimated Ukraine ammo stocks. Lots of Russia stooges in provinces supported the invasion that’s the reason why Putin’s invasion army took very quick the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine.

 

[Battlion25]

Ukraine army is not the same as in the past. The Donbas separatists have zero chance to survive a week. Previously Ukraine gov was a stooge of Moscow. Ukraine army was not existent that’s why Russia took Crimea and occupy Donbas without a fight. Putin becomes angry because he lost Russian stooges in Kiew, NATO beginning deliver trainings and weapons.

Before starting the invasion last year 2022 the Russians staged sabotage actions across Ukraine, decimated Ukraine ammo stocks. Lots of Russia stooges in provinces supported the invasion that’s the reason why Putin’s invasion army took very quick the southern and eastern parts of Ukraine.

Yes I do agree that Ukraine armed forces are vastly superior to the donbass rebels but it won't be a rollover like you are putting it they already fought each other for a full year and admittedly the rebels were pushed back significiantly after early successes due to Ukraine re-mobilizing and where the Rebels started to retreat was at the battle of Mariupol which is why Russia specifically wanted revenge for that city and brought in there most ruthless forces in that city.

 

[Viet]

Yes I do agree that Ukraine armed forces are vastly superior to the donbass rebels but it won't be a rollover like you are putting it they already fought each other for a full year and admittedly the rebels were pushed back significiantly after early successes due to Ukraine re-mobilizing and where the Rebels started to retreat was at the battle of Mariupol which is why Russia specifically wanted revenge for that city and brought in there most ruthless forces in that city.

Russia today is much a mafia state controlled by Putin and his fanatics and racists. It lives on fear, on oppression and on selling natural resources. If China stops buying, stops exporting finished goods then Russia will collapse immediately.

Russia army is weak and primitive. They fight WW1 tactic. They rely on flattering the grounds by massive artillery fire. The NATO says even the most elite units have little value. You can see the disaster of Russia 155th elite brigade at Wuhleda.

Even the best Russia troops have little value what can the weaker Donbas separatists?

 

[Mohsin A]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1634132087878873089

 

[Battlion25]

Russia today is much a mafia state controlled by Putin and his fanatics and racists. It lives fear, oppression and on selling natural resources. If China stops buying, stops exporting finished goods then Russia will collapse immediately.

Russia army is weak and primitive. They fight WW1 tactic. They rely on flattering the grounds by massive artillery fire. The NATO says even the most elite units have little value. You can see the disaster of Russia 155th elite brigade at Wuhleda.

Even the best Russia troops have little value what can the weaker Donbas separatists?

Are you western aligned and is this a shared policies by other Vietnamese. Or let me put it more diplomatically is vietnam western aligned currently?

I lean towards NATO in the Ukraine file for different reasons because their foes have armed our neighbours

 

[MeFishToo]

Well, about Ukraine conflict Russia is more liar, because Russia is more affected.

But about whole world conflicts USA is the winner in all known mankind history, they dont only lie more, they say bigger (hugest) lies, starting by 911 self-attacks (the world never saw a huge lie like that before).

About Ukraine conflict we have the American lie of the Nordstream blast. A piss in the face of all European "allies" (vassals).

But it's true that Russia lies are more and worst than USA lies in Ukraine conflict, one of worst Russian lies was the MH17 shoot down. So this is not the first neither worst Russian lie in the conflict.

Did you just use conspiracy theories as examples of american lies?