jhungary
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I honestly don't care how or why you got banned.
Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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jamahir
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Well, as I said, I don't really care about you or being banned to be condescending, I mean, I am not the one here bitch about being banned in the first place.And Jamahir is condescending he says.
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This is a tiny portion of what Europe needs:
Poland to Acquire 500 HIMARS From US
Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak has announced that the country will acquire 500 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems.
www.thedefensepost.com
Europe need inexpensive arms. Not spend 5 billion on something that Russian can destroy in a week.
Iran perfected the manufacturing of inexpensive arms.
For this reason, a war against Iran is very hard for the US, and US temporarily abandon this for war with China.
Israel wants Iran gone, and is wanting to use nuclear weapons, the assassination of the General was supposed to get the Iranians to lash out against Israel and Israel would nuke Iran.
This was no accident:
Netanyahu was threatening Iran if Iran strikes Israel, Israel could nuke Iran.
Trump/Putin wants the EU nuked by Russia, China nuked, and Iran nuked. "With Israel acting in 'self-defense'"
Russia threatens to nuke Europe as tensions escalate dramatically
RUSSIA issues an extraordinary threat to Europe on Monday, warning it would be willing to turn nuclear weapons on the continent if its demands aren't met.
The EU should not exist as a rival to the Entente of UK, US, Russia, France and the zionists. These are still fighting WWI. A weak continental Europe of Germany, Italy and lesser states is a requirement to the Entente.
Donald Trump Declares The European Union A 'Foe'
"In a trade sense, they’ve really taken advantage of us.”
Trump is the face of the cia deepstate of Pompeo and Bushites (William Barr)
The Real Deep State Is Trump
How the president has used William Barr and other officials to turn the government into his personal fiefdom
newrepublic.com
Iran has utilized the use of proxy wars to get at Israeli expansionism and blocking zionist wars.
Iran is at an temporary impass to war and that is what Iran wants due to inexpensive arms.
The way to contain Iran is to sanction Iran, and this is multi-purposed. Against Iran, against oil and natural gas markets, against European energy independence from Russia by getting rid of JCPOA.
The US wants war, yet cannot because Iran won with having the inexpensive arms that would have a quagmire due to mass production of inexpensive arms that Europe needs against Russia.
Putin is not attacking the HIMARS because there are only a small number, if Russia destroy them, there is to be political pressure by Biden to send more. Putin is more than happy that the press is covering only 12 HIMARS as holding back the Russians. US should send hundreds. Yet, then Putin would easily destroy hundreds. Putins war goals is not only Ukraine, Putin and handlers are trying to destroy the economy of Europe.
The goal for Europe is to not bankrupt the EU in arms sales and yet have enough arms to capture Moscow. And to have Germany and Italy develop their own nuclear weapons at numbers equal to Russia. That would cause more chimping out at Washington than Putin threatening nuclear war on Europe. Which would completely expose Washington as a tool of Trump.
MLRS were very effective in the Gulf War. Though against a superpower with 1300 aircraft and many more missiles/rockets, it is not the same as fighting weak Iraq. A full scale EU war vs Russia, it would be different than the Ukraine War. There are many reasons to keep this Ukraine War going as long as possible, Putin wants the EU to hang themselves in hyperinflation and a crashed euro. A EU vs Russia war would be much quicker and different than the Ukraine War.
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Not sure I’d be lol’ing when American equipment is decimating Russian equipment and all of china’s tech and equipment is Russian based.
That’s not even taking into account western sanctions of China really wants to play this game.
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What is great about Poland getting so many HIMARS is they are enough to make a difference, so when the US spins the news as HIMARS stopping the Russian invasion of the EU, who cares. EU is saved. If Russia destroys those HIMARS, then Poland is getting 1000s of tanks and other equipment to supplement these. So if Russia destroys the 500 HIMARS, then Washington has egg on their face in selling these to Europe as the 'saviour of Europe'. 500 is a substantial sum, so Washington won't be able to say, you did not buy enough. How many HIMARS does Washington have. Washington psy-ops are clues to their agenda. Trump and Putin are buddies, Trump warned Europe that US would not defend Europe unless paid more money into defense, trump said privately that trump wanted to leave NATO and abandon Europe to Russia. Every honest intelligence analyst would come to the same conclusion that Trump had foreknowledge of Putin invading Europe. Meaning Trump is in on it with Putin.This is a tiny portion of what Europe needs:
Poland to Acquire 500 HIMARS From US
Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak has announced that the country will acquire 500 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems.
The Russia-US planned psy-op of HIMARS is to make them the "ultimate weapon" that you only need a few of to hold back a Russian invasion. Poland destroyed that. Congrats to Poland.
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No reason to laugh
The US himars is much more advanced than anything Russia has in inventory.
All peaceful rhetoric is faked. Putin has prepared this war against Ukraine since years. He can tap the giant storage of 3,220 Grad/Uragan missile launchers and 10,200 tanks.
Mehrfachraketenwerfer Grad 122 mm (Reichweite 20.5 km; A.S.)Ergänzt werden die Grad-Werfer durch den Einsatz der weitreichenderen Mehrfachraketenwerfer Uragan und Smerch.
Mehrfach-Raketenwerfer Uragan 220 mm (Reichweite 35–40 km; A.S.)Russland hat in seinen Rüstungsarsenalen einen riesigen Bestand an solchen Waffen. Dort sind 10’200 Kampfpanzer der Typen T-72, T-80 und T-90 und 3’220 Mehrfachraketenwerfern der Typen Grad und Uragan eingelagert.
Europe (minus uk even) has 2500 aircraft…..and plenty of anti air systems apart from the cheaper stuff.This is a tiny portion of what Europe needs:
Poland to Acquire 500 HIMARS From US
Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak has announced that the country will acquire 500 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems.
Europe need inexpensive arms. Not spend 5 billion on something that Russian can destroy in a week.
Iran perfected the manufacturing of inexpensive arms.
For this reason, a war against Iran is very hard for the US, and US temporarily abandon this for war with China.
Israel wants Iran gone, and is wanting to use nuclear weapons, the assassination of the General was supposed to get the Iranians to lash out against Israel and Israel would nuke Iran.
This was no accident:
Netanyahu was threatening Iran if Iran strikes Israel, Israel could nuke Iran.
Trump/Putin wants the EU nuked by Russia, China nuked, and Iran nuked. "With Israel acting in 'self-defense'"
Russia threatens to nuke Europe as tensions escalate dramatically
RUSSIA issues an extraordinary threat to Europe on Monday, warning it would be willing to turn nuclear weapons on the continent if its demands aren't met.www.express.co.uk
The EU should not exist as a rival to the Entente of UK, US, Russia, France and the zionists. These are still fighting WWI. A weak continental Europe of Germany, Italy and lesser states is a requirement to the Entente.
Donald Trump Declares The European Union A 'Foe'
"In a trade sense, they’ve really taken advantage of us.”www.huffpost.com
Trump is the face of the cia deepstate of Pompeo and Bushites (William Barr)
The Real Deep State Is Trump
How the president has used William Barr and other officials to turn the government into his personal fiefdom
Iran has utilized the use of proxy wars to get at Israeli expansionism and blocking zionist wars.
Iran is at an temporary impass to war and that is what Iran wants due to inexpensive arms.
The way to contain Iran is to sanction Iran, and this is multi-purposed. Against Iran, against oil and natural gas markets, against European energy independence from Russia by getting rid of JCPOA.
The US wants war, yet cannot because Iran won with having the inexpensive arms that would have a quagmire due to mass production of inexpensive arms that Europe needs against Russia.
Putin is not attacking the HIMARS because there are only a small number, if Russia destroy them, there is to be political pressure by Biden to send more. Putin is more than happy that the press is covering only 12 HIMARS as holding back the Russians. US should send hundreds. Yet, then Putin would easily destroy hundreds. Putins war goals is not only Ukraine, Putin and handlers are trying to destroy the economy of Europe.
The goal for Europe is to not bankrupt the EU in arms sales and yet have enough arms to capture Moscow. And to have Germany and Italy develop their own nuclear weapons at numbers equal to Russia. That would cause more chimping out at Washington than Putin threatening nuclear war on Europe. Which would completely expose Washington as a tool of Trump.
MLRS were very effective in the Gulf War. Though against a superpower with 1300 aircraft and many more missiles/rockets, it is not the same as fighting weak Iraq. A full scale EU war vs Russia, it would be different than the Ukraine War. There are many reasons to keep this Ukraine War going as long as possible, Putin wants the EU to hang themselves in hyperinflation and a crashed euro. A EU vs Russia war would be much quicker and different than the Ukraine War.
Gales of stupid laughter in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Seriously, why do we need to fear russia in air? Russia will most likely flat out lose the air war.
You do realise russian training hours, combined warfare training is all much lower level then Nato? Hence the shit show in ukraine…
So also no “hunting” artillery and mlrs for them.
I do agree europe got careless and need to sort out their independant defence, but russia after ukraine is not really a conventional threat.
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Here is my source on Russian Air Force, from a thread link on PDF forums.
1399 combat aircraft before the war, minus aircraft lost according to Ukraine, and those not working or mothballed to scrap material.
militarywatchmagazine.com
Plus those delivered. So I estimated ~1300+.
1399 combat aircraft before the war, minus aircraft lost according to Ukraine, and those not working or mothballed to scrap material.
Military Watch Magazine
Military Watch is a provider of reliable and insightful analysis into military and military related affairs across the world.
militarywatchmagazine.com
Plus those delivered. So I estimated ~1300+.
