Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610356031368101892

MANPADS no use at night. Cannot see shit.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

low IQ propaganda from you again.

It is well known that because there are fewer buyers…russia has to give serious discount to India and China.

Russia Oil Revenues Dropped in November Amid Discounts, IEA Says

Let alone the shortfall in gas reliant on pipelines.


Ofcourse the high demand of oil and gas gives russia a trump card keeping them afloat. But so far the economic warfare on that is far from decided.


You have been consistently wrong.

China had done little else then some empty supporting words and buying discounted gas and oil.
For a year now.

Russia is not worth it for China to destroy their trade/relations with the West at this time. Simple as that.

You and your friends like to insult me but then run to the mods when I match you. Either respect the rules and share your views without insults or stop crying to the mods.


@LeGenD @waz

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Please , Read the Minsk agreements and get back to me. You'll find that you have been misinformed by third parties if you think that they propose no further NATO expansion. Also. Let us not forget that Ukraine was already refused NATO membership in 2008. So , Are you the misinformed or the liar?

Here is the link that documents that agreement: https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/UA_150212_MinskAgreement_en.pdf

The self-rule or autonomy of Russian-speaking communities in both Donetsk and Luhansk regions, including the linguistic self-determination, were clearly documented there. And this was something that the Ukrainians ignored.

#10 was also clearly outlining the "Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, as well as mercenaries from the territory of Ukraine under monitoring of the OSCE. Disarmament of all illegal groups."

NATO and the Ukrainian government never implemented that article.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

No evidence of Himars destruction, nor the vampires.

You can deny it till the end of age, but those HIMARS are getting taken out, and that is why the Biden administration has kept sending them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610291705923923970

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610291532489232385

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610239376696696832

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610372567793127426

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610372331527864320

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610242556830355457

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610319670430646277

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610300400535584771

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610269318305955840

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610386366189260807

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610442666197815296

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610319464570159105

Well, I guess many of the Western propagandists can't visit Hungary any more. That is because Hungary will no longer tolerate their "lifestyle".

Good for Hungary, they're afterall protecting their children from such a decadent lifestyle.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610319464570159105

Well, I guess many of the Western propagandists can't visit Hungary any more. That is because Hungary will no longer tolerate their "lifestyle".

Good for Hungary, they're afterall protecting their children from such a decadent lifestyle.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610341764908318720

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610422408384778240

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610404019440332801

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610398315119607810

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610285575570968576

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610337310671011840

 

[BHAN85]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610386366189260807

I believe it, you can see the devil in his beautiful eyes.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610338677569507334

Massive missile attacks on Ukraine

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610413275593965568

 

[F-22Raptor]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610366428070412290

 

[aviator_fan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609839572828971009

https://twitter.com/x/status/1609846802416820225

Defending the communities in the Donbass region was one of the main reasons that Russia invaded Ukraine in addition to Ukraine being a neutral state and not allow NATO to setup a shop. There were other reasons such as the de-nazification of Ukraine. Russian stated goals were very clear and there were no ambiguity to any of them.

Then they should have just invaded and held on to Donbass. Trying to save your ethnic population under a false pretext (like in Crimea) and expand your border does not happen in this era. Only Israel is allowed that privilege to continue doing so.

Clarity of purpose is when you have one goal and a plan to match it. It is not ‘clear’ when Russia had 3 different goals and a military plan that accomplished non so far.

De-nazification was as stupid as Neo-cons goal of bringing democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan and re-drawing the middle east borders. That was 20 years ago and evidently a disaster like that was not current enough for Putin and his buddies to learn from.

SO how is RUssia being run THEN?? i mean thats the reality meanwhile your point is theory, because the reality shows that RUssia is economically resillent NOW, meanwhile, US will probably default on its debt soon...Peter Schiff already said it within the past week too- are you one of those people that only said US lost AFghanistan after it withdrew after 20 years of failures there and then saying Russia has lost when the war isnt a year old and isnt over yet?

huh? the sanctions backfired AND upset the global world order- Russia will get most of the things the EU and US sell it from other countries- China and India will most likely fulfil Russia's long term needs- welcome to the new world order- your sanctions ordered it!

not having a strong effect because US is economically weaker today, sanctions are wearing off like cheap drugs, and other countries are finding alternative business solutions and trade routes and methods.

Unless you live in Russia, you retyping the crap you are picking off twitter is not going to change anybody’s mind. I did not say sanctions were perfect,i said adversary has to take some action even if its not going have the 100% impact.

And Russia is getting less for its oil than it did . So its coffers are not filling as fast.

I just told you stats about how auto industry and PC industry is down. Any idiotic economy can function for a year or two. The pain of sanctions (medicine, automotive supplies, aviation parts for airliners) is felt over time.

If Russia were functioning properly , it would not be importing anything from N. Korea.

India does not have anything that Russia needs. China yes, but no Chinese corp is going to supply high-tech (computers and such) and then be subject to secondary sanctions.

Much like this war is not over tomorrow, neither is the economic impact going to be felt.

 

[That Guy]

You can deny it till the end of age, but those HIMARS are getting taken out, and that is why the Biden administration has kept sending them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610291705923923970

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610291532489232385

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610239376696696832

Then it's simple to prove. The Russians should have plenty of photo or video evidence of such destruction, and yet we've seen nothing.

 

[khansaheeb]

So , Ukraine isn't doing as well as they are making it out to be?

Ukraine must get long-term support, warns Nato chief

The West must be in it for the "long haul" as Russia shows no signs of relenting, says Nato's chief.

www.bbc.com

Ukraine must get long-term support, warns Nato chief​

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By Alys Davies in London & Hugo Bachega in Kyiv
BBC News

Western countries must be prepared to provide long-term support to Ukraine as Russia shows no signs of relenting, Nato's secretary general has said.
Jens Stoltenberg told the BBC that military support would ensure the survival of Ukraine as a sovereign country and force Russia to sit down and negotiate an end to the war.
Russia's leader accuses the West of using Ukraine to destroy his country.
Russian missiles and drones have hit Ukraine on New Year's Eve and Day.
Russia's partial mobilisation programme, ordered in September, showed Moscow had no desire to end the war at present, Mr Stoltenberg told Radio 4's World at One programme.
"The Ukrainian forces had the momentum for several months, but we also know that Russia has mobilised many more forces, many of them are now training," he said.

"All that indicates that they are prepared to continue the war and also try to potentially launch a new offensive."
Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin gave a New Year's speech, in which he tried to rally people behind his troops fighting in Ukraine, saying that the country's future was at stake.
His Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky accused Mr Putin of hiding behind his troops rather than leading them.
Twelve out of 20 Russian cruise missiles were shot down on Saturday, the head of Ukraine's armed forces said. A further 45 Iranian-made kamikaze drones were shot down around Kyiv just hours into the New Year on Sunday, the Ukrainian Air Force said.

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Watch: A local resident describes hearing the explosions and glass shattering
At least one person died and dozens were injured in the attacks.
The strike fuelled anger and hate among Ukrainians already tired of Russia's unrelenting air campaign.

As explosions rocked the capital, some residents sang the national anthem, while officials accused Russia of deliberately targeting civilians while they gathered to celebrated the New Year.
Andriy Nebitov, the head of the Kyiv police, posted an image to social media of a downed drone with the words "Happy New Year" scribbled across it in Russian.

IMAGE SOURCE,KYIV POLICE
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A downed drone found in a children's playground in Kyiv with the words 'Happy New Year' written in Russian on it
"That is everything you need to know about the terror state and its army," he wrote on Facebook, adding that the remains had crashed in a children's playground.
Though no let up in hostilities looks to be in sight, Mr Stoltenberg said Nato must ensure Ukraine stays in a strong position in the event of negotiation talks between the two sides.

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"We need to provide support to Ukraine now, including military support, because that's the only way to convince Russia that they have to sit down and negotiate in good faith and respect Ukraine as a sovereign independent nation in Europe," Mr Stoltenberg said.
"What we do know is that what Ukraine can achieve around that table is totally dependent on the strength on the battlefield."

Prior to Mr Stoltenberg's interview, France - a Nato member - reiterated its backing for Ukraine.
"We will be beside you without fail. We will help you until victory is achieved," French President Emmanuel Macron said in his own New Year's address.

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