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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Objectively, it was pretty even between 1-2 hezbullah casualty for every 1 Israeli casualty. This is from independent reports.

Only Israel claims a 6 to 1 ratio.

Lebanese infrastructure was devastated by Israeli air strikes, this was a major point of criticism that Israel faced, what are you talking about?

Again, you are conflating Hezbullah with Lebanon. This is not a state vs state war, it is a state vs militia war. The Lebanese Army stayed mostly away from the fighting.

You're parroting propaganda that even most objective Israeli analysts don't believe
1-2 number is only by Hezbollah and "human rights organisations" that always include combatants as civilians.

All Israel did was destroy some bridges and destroy residential buildings held by Hezbollah, power and water facilities weren't touched, this only shows Israel wasn't going all out. A mistake on its behalf that would not be repeated. You saw how the Beirut explosion paralyzed Lebanon, but this will be nothing compared to the coming destruction.

Lebanese army wasn't a relevant force since 2000. We are viewing Hezbollah as Lebanon, we had your view in 2006 that differentiates between the two, but it's no longer the case.

Oh my God, it's like arguing with a toddler.

Stop fucking repeating the same damn points over and over again thinking that they'll suddenly become valid if you repeat them enough.

Also, unlike you I don't hope for another war for the peace of the region and the people living there.

"You'll see it soon enough", why would you ever wish for war? Are you mad?
We don't hope for it either, we just know it will come, it's obvious, everyone in Israel knows it.

The criticism basically amounted to "Israel numbah Wan!" And showed zero evidence to back its criticism.
What do you mean?
Here are the points:
Lebanese border is more peaceful than in the last 40 years - true

Hezbollah was thrown out of Southern Lebanon - true, Israel stopped by the Litani River

Hezbollah had the fight thrown out of it: true, it went from attacking Israeli military patrols into being quiet for 16 years, even not responding to Israel bombing Hezbollah generals in Syria
 
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1-2 number is only by Hezbollah and "human rights organisations" that always include combatants as civilians.

All Israel did was destroy some bridges and destroy residential buildings held by Hezbollah, power and water facilities weren't touched, this only shows Israel wasn't going all out. A mistake on its behalf that would not be repeated. You saw how the Beirut explosion paralyzed Lebanon, but this will be nothing compared to the coming destruction.

Lebanese army wasn't a relevant force since 2000. We are viewing Hezbollah as Lebanon, we had your view in 2006 that differentiates between the two, but it's no longer the case.


We don't hope for it either, we just know it will come, it's obvious, everyone in Israel knows it.


What do you mean?
Here are the points:
Lebanese border is more peaceful than in the last 40 years - true

Hezbollah was thrown out of Southern Lebanon - true, Israel stopped by the Litani River

Hezbollah had the fight thrown out of it: true, it went from attacking Israeli military patrols into being quiet for 16 years, even not responding to Israel bombing Hezbollah generals in Syria
The fact that you're calling for and expecting a war where you're openly calling for Israel to commit war crimes is disturbing.

You aren't doing any favors for Israel by acting like a war monger.

We aren't looking at Hezbullah as Lebanon, YOU are.

You can't just arbitrarily change facts to suit your narratives.

Hezbullah still operates in the South of Lebanon, and occasional cross border crises do still occur. The border is still far from being peaceful.

Hezbullah is still getting ready to fight, which is why their numbers have grown, both man and weapons systems. They've been preparing for another war for a long time, and I hope that day never comes.

The Lebanese Army may not have been powerful during the time, but they still numbered tens of thousands of soldiers trained and equipped with advanced weapons and tactics.

I'm also, not talking about the rest of Israeli people, I'm talking about YOU ALONE. Stop wishing for war.

Nothing you said is based on facts.

All you did was post easily disproven propaganda.

With that, I will no longer engage in this discussion. Back to the Russia-Ukraine war. Let's stick to the main topic @A.P. Richelieu @Beny Karachun
 
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The fact that you're calling for and expecting a war where you're openly calling for Israel to commit war crimes is disturbing.
As I said, we're not calling for war, we're expecting it. Every Iranian, Lebanese, Israeli, Syrian or anyone else knows it's just a matter of time.

There are no warcrimes against a terrorist organization. We don't care about what some Swiss people living in peace in Geneva have to say.

We aren't looking at Hezbullah as Lebanon, YOU are.
That's literally what I'm saying.

You can't just arbitrarily change facts to suit your narratives.
Where?

Hezbullah still operates in the South of Lebanon, and occasional cross border crises do still occur. The border is still far from being peaceful.
This obviously referred to the duration of the war, Hezbollah was kicked out of South Lebanon during the 2006 invasion.
And the border is more peaceful than it ever was. 1979-2006 we had wars and battles. This is no longer the case. "Occasional" things are few and far apart, in a very small magnitude.

Hezbullah is still getting ready to fight, which is why their numbers have grown, both man and weapons systems. They've been preparing for another war for a long time, and I hope that day never comes.
Their ATGMs are practically useless, their rockets are about to be as well with the introduction of Iron Beam and the existence of the Iron Dome, same about their drones with the addition of EW to counter them.
The Lebanese Army may not have been powerful during the time, but they still numbered tens of thousands of soldiers trained and equipped with advanced weapons and tactics.
What's your point?

I'm also, not talking about the rest of Israeli people, I'm talking about YOU ALONE. Stop wishing for war.
No one here wishes for war, we just know it will come, it always comes.
 
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That’s low.
Russia TV is a comedian show. They make fake news on anti fake news show.
Julia, a russia blogger, complains Germany is too cold she has to wear massive winter clothing because there is no gas, no heating.
The temperature however outside when she made the video was 18 Celsius.
Well, on a recent police report, she is deported back to Russia.


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It is! :D

And it's the typical mentality todays germans and especially members of the Bundeswehr und Co. have. Nearly 80 years of occupation and brainwashing by UKUSA destroyed not only this country, it has destroyed the whole german culture and the people. Turned them into shizos , servile on the one hand and megalomaniac on the other hand.


Well, but then please explain if you hate us Germans and Germany so much, why according to your flags a Russian - who constantly bashes the West, its culture and way of living and cheers all Russian cruelties in Ukraine - hides like a coward in Germany?

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So either you are just a stupid nationalistic brainwashed Russian teenager, who knows nothing, or an unemployed hopeless young Russian looser that fled to Germany or just a typical Russian "internet warrior", or plain and simple a troll!

@waz, @LeGenD and other moderators ... could you please call to end this constant off topic Israel-Iran and Lebanon discussions here in this thread?!!
 
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That’s low.
Russia TV is a comedian show. They make fake news on anti fake news show.
Julia, a russia blogger, complains Germany is too cold she has to wear massive winter clothing because there is no gas, no heating.
The temperature however outside when she made the video was 18 Celsius.
Well, on a recent police report, she is deported back to Russia.


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Funny how some Russian trolls and people who do not even live here are claiming we are freezing to death. How beautiful.
 
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As I said, we're not calling for war, we're expecting it. Every Iranian, Lebanese, Israeli, Syrian or anyone else knows it's just a matter of time.

There are no warcrimes against a terrorist organization. We don't care about what some Swiss people living in peace in Geneva have to say.


That's literally what I'm saying.


Where?


This obviously referred to the duration of the war, Hezbollah was kicked out of South Lebanon during the 2006 invasion.
And the border is more peaceful than it ever was. 1979-2006 we had wars and battles. This is no longer the case. "Occasional" things are few and far apart, in a very small magnitude.


Their ATGMs are practically useless, their rockets are about to be as well with the introduction of Iron Beam and the existence of the Iron Dome, same about their drones with the addition of EW to counter them.

What's your point?


No one here wishes for war, we just know it will come, it always comes.
Sure.

I'm not gonna argue on a topic where we can't even agree on basic facts.

Leta just get back to the topic of seeing how shitty Russia's army is.
 
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"Conditions in #Ukraine make it extremely difficult especially for the #NATO made machines that weren't built for this environment."

*Shows a Soviet made tank stuck in the mud*

Lol, NATO machines were made exactly for that type of environment.

@waz, @LeGenD and other moderators ... could you please call to end this constant off topic Israel-Iran and Lebanon discussions here in this thread?!!
It's only natural for a Israel-Iran discussion to appear here considering Iran is a side in the Ukraine war
 
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Hezbollah will survive because it's an ideology, in order to kill it you need to kill every one of its supporters, but it will be left powerless, Just like Lebanon.

Lebanon has no electricity - that means Lebanon has no pumps, no fuel, no water. I want Hezbollah to try and fight under those conditions.

Russians are a joke, we had a 70 years history of humiliating their equipment. EW works very well, except the frontline of Ukraine is so big neither side can utilize it effectively. This isn't the case in Lebanon.

Israel's slowed advance was largely due to ATGMs hitting Israel's armor, this problem was negated with the Trophy. So next war Israel's advance would be quicker, what's there to not understand?

No weapon is tested in combat situation, before it's tested in combat situation. You'll see just how effective that system really is, just like the world was amazed by the Iron Dome.

There's no need for anything to be 100 percent fool proof. The point of defense systems is to minimize casualties. For example, the Trophy system has a lot more use than just being able to defend tanks. It changes the whole tactical planning and usecase of tanks. A Merkava without Trophy wouldn't dare to rush into the enemy, whereas Merkavas equipped with Trophy would. APCs with no APS wouldn't drive in ATGM threatened roads.

You are right, we in Israel don't see 2006 as a successful war. But that's because we expect a swift, decisive complete victory with minimal casualties. Anything less than that is a failure in our eyes. But if we are not looking from our eyes, the facts remain: Hezbollah took a massive blow, couldn't stop Israel's invasion to South Lebanon and was only saved by the fact Israel's leadership listened to the international community's peace demands, was overwhelmingly tactically disadvantaged in every encounter with an Israeli force, had many times the casualties of Israel, crashed the Lebanese economy ever since and led Israel to overhaul its entire military to successfully fight against Hezbollah.


Hezbollah is a guerilla force in 2006, it didn't have massive easily spotted armor formations. In 2006 optics and intelligence sharing were lacking. Today even tiny drones offer high resolution recording that allows drones and aircraft to effectively destroy enemies. Look at Turkey in Syria, they're making Hezbollah and others a joke with their TB2 drones. Why do you think that's possible? Because of high definition thermal optics and precise munitions. Same thing will happen next war.

Israel had an overwhelming advantage against conventional militaries, not against guerilla forces. Now Israel is trained and equipped to fight against guerilla forces, and you'll see it soon enough.


The same IsraHell that doesn't dare to go to in to Gaza but destroys the civilian infrastructure, buildings from the air, and kills innocent civilians. This ZioCunt is full of hot air. The whole IsraHell go into bomb shelters when they are coming under the rocket rain of the Palestinian resistance.

These cowards are bragging about winning wars when it is the whole Western backing that enabled them to carry out a mass murder.


Their soldiers are the biggest chickens out there. They all start crying after they suffer one casualty.

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Every IsraHelli also gets his (or her) head down and coward arse up as soon as they hear the alarm.

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Listen ZioCunt, the promised day will be fulfilled. It is coming. And that day, the Freemasonry empire that protects your wholesale massacres and evictions of the indigenous Arab population will not be there to protect you. It is a divine promise!
 
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