Russia Develops Own THAAD-like, GMD-like Missile Defense Systems

[vostok]

Even during 91-92 , the same happened in which South Ossetias militias declared Independence and were backed by Russian troops and the same we are seeing in Ukraine now be it in Crimea and be it in Donbass etc.

This Ethnic card is being played in all the Ex SSR republics and this is the reason neighboring countries are afraid of this and this is in real spoiling people to people relations and creating hate and injustices. And all this in real can backfire for Russian Federation because Russian Federation is home of many ethnic groups.

You obviously do not know much about the fight of Ossetian people against Georgia. In the early 90's to power in Georgia came nationalist who started ethnic cleansing in Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Adjara. In response, these republics declared their independence. Russia received a UN mandate for peacekeeping and managed to stop the bloodshed. However, the madman Saakashvili started the war again.
West fueling conflicts on Russia's borders to contain Russia strength and divert it from participating in events outside the former Soviet Union.

 

[Hindustani78]

You obviously do not know much about the fight of Ossetian people against Georgia. In the early 90's to power in Georgia came nationalist who started ethnic cleansing in Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Adjara. In response, these republics declared their independence. Russia received a UN mandate for peacekeeping and managed to stop the bloodshed. However, the madman Saakashvili started the war again.
West fueling conflicts on Russia's borders to contain Russia strength and divert it from participating in events outside the former Soviet Union.

If have to see regarding Ossetians then have to see from 1922 and how Ossetia was incorporated in USSR and the role played by the Georgian SSR in that etc. Russian Federation being member of UNSC was able to get the mandate but the thing is this that now Russian Federation wants to incorporate South and North Ossetia may be in one region or make these regions as buffer zones. Sovereignty is important for all the countries and don't mind if i say that Russian Federation was even behind the arming of South Ossetians in 1992.

 

[vostok]

If have to see regarding Ossetians then have to see from 1922 and how Ossetia was incorporated in USSR and the role played by the Georgian SSR in that etc. Russian Federation being member of UNSC was able to get the mandate but the thing is this that now Russian Federation wants to incorporate South and North Ossetia may be in one region or make these regions as buffer zones. Sovereignty is important for all the countries and don't mind if i say that Russian Federation was even behind the arming of South Ossetians in 1992.

Russia helped brotherly Ossetian people, most of whom live in Russia to resist imperialist manners of madman Saakashvili, backed by West.
Unfortunately, Russia is not in a position to send troops into the territory of New Russia, in order to help us get rid of the occupation of Kiev junta. However, the people of New Russia is understand the situation. We believe that the time will come when the New Russia, and Russia will be united.

 

[Hindustani78]

Russia helped brotherly Ossetian people, most of whom live in Russia to resist imperialist manners of madman Saakashvili, backed by West.
Unfortunately, Russia is not in a position to send troops into the territory of New Russia, in order to help us get rid of the occupation of Kiev junta. However, the people of New Russia is understand the situation. We believe that the time will come when the New Russia, and Russia will be united.

Ossetians are an ethnic group and they can live in Georgia or Russian Federation but in 1992 South Ossetians declared Independence , from where South Ossetians got weapons and arms ?

Russian troops are already there inside Ukraine not only in Crimea but even in Donbass, Donestsk and Luhangsk regions

An amoured personnel carrier (APC) rolls on a main road in rebel-territory near the village of Torez, east of Donetsk, in eastern Ukraine.

 

[vostok]

Ossetians are an ethnic group and they can live in Georgia or Russian Federation but in 1992 South Ossetians declared Independence , from where South Ossetians got weapons and arms ?

Russian troops are already there inside Ukraine not only in Crimea but even in Donbass, Donestsk and Luhangsk regions

An amoured personnel carrier (APC) rolls on a main road in rebel-territory near the village of Torez, east of Donetsk, in eastern Ukraine.

In Novorossia no regular Russian troops, unfortunately. There are military experts, scouts and instructors. Despite the fact that the people of New Russia repeatedly urged Russia to send troops to protect us against the Nazis - Russia is now in a difficult situation and can not help their brothers. We understand this and do not be offended. We know that the independence of the New Russia actually took place, it now remains only to liberate the occupied territories.
Grateful Ossetians are fighting on the side of militia in large numbers.

 

[Hindustani78]

In Novorossia no regular Russian troops, unfortunately. There are military experts, scouts and instructors. Despite the fact that the people of New Russia repeatedly urged Russia to send troops to protect us against the Nazis - Russia is now in a difficult situation and can not help their brothers. We understand this and do not be offended. We know that the independence of the New Russia actually took place, it now remains only to liberate the occupied territories.
Grateful Ossetians are fighting on the side of militia in large numbers.

Amoured personnel carrier (APC) and Tanks in Donetsk are being operated by regular Russian soldiers. Russian soldiers are already in the regions which declared Independence from Ukraine.

Pro-Russian armed soldiers pictured on a tank in front of the Slavyansk City Hall in Ukraine. Pro-Russian protesters have occupied the government buildings in eastern cities such as Donetsk and Luhansk, declaring independence from the capital Kiev

 

[vostok]

Amoured personnel carrier (APC) and Tanks in Donetsk are being operated by regular Russian soldiers. Russian soldiers are already in the regions which declared Independence from Ukraine.

Pro-Russian armed soldiers pictured on a tank in front of the Slavyansk City Hall in Ukraine. Pro-Russian protesters have occupied the government buildings in eastern cities such as Donetsk and Luhansk, declaring independence from the capital Kiev

In fact, the first on the side militia switched paratroopers from Dnepropetrovsk with their armored vehicles. After all, on the side of antifascists moved hundreds of Ukrainian militaries with the equipment.
Novorossia struggle for sovereignty continues. Undoubtedly, the historical justice will triumph in the coming years and our land reunites with Russia.
On the side of anti-fascists are fighting volunteers from Russia, Serbia, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Poland, France, Brazil, Spain.
Peoples of the world rose to just struggle against the fascist junta of Kiev. Undoubtedly, the victory will be ours.

 

[Hindustani78]

In fact, the first on the side militia switched paratroopers from Dnepropetrovsk with their armored vehicles. After all, on the side of antifascists moved hundreds of Ukrainian militaries with the equipment.
Novorossia struggle for sovereignty continues. Undoubtedly, the historical justice will triumph in the coming years and our land reunites with Russia.
On the side of anti-fascists are fighting volunteers from Russia, Serbia, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Poland, France, Brazil, Spain.
Peoples of the world rose to just struggle against the fascist junta of Kiev. Undoubtedly, the victory will be ours.

Whatever happened in Ukraine east regions of Donbas, Donetsk and Luhansk all were well planned military tactics in which the Ukrainian military planners were not ready. And its understandable that people of those regions are not able to do anything like that.

Whatever the nationalities issued by the Ukrainian Government all those are well trained regular soldiers.

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SIMFEROPOL, December 24. /TASS/. Crimea will officially celebrate the Day of Reunification with Russia on March 16, when the republic held a landmark referendum to secede from Ukraine.

The Crimean parliament also approved on Wednesday three other official holidays in the republic — the Day of State Flag (January 19), the Day of the Republic of Crimea (January 20) and the Day of Constitution of the Republic of Crimea (April 11).

Crimea, where most residents are Russians, refused to recognize the legitimacy of authorities brought to power amid riots during a coup in Ukraine in February 2014


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TASS: Russia - Russia’s plan to have rail-based ICBMs does not contradict START-3 — Defense Ministry

MOSCOW, December 24. /TASS/. Russia’s plans for creating a new generation of railroad-based ballistic missiles by no means run counter to the provisions of the strategic arms reduction treaty START-3 and will certainly not require its revision, Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov said on Wednesday.

“The existence of our plans for creating rail-based ICBMs by no means contradicts Russia’s liabilities under the START treaty. The emergence of rail-based ICBMs will not require its revision,” Antonov said.

He recalled that START did not contain a ban on mobile missiles as such and either party was free to determine the composition and structure of its strategic forces on its own. “The key provision of that treaty is to comply with the qualitative restrictions: the number of delivery vehicles and operational warheads,” Antonov explained.

He recalled the existence of the bilateral consultative commission, empowered to consider all START-3 related issues.

Earlier, US Under Secretary for Arms Control and International Security Rose Gottemoeller said that the re-emergence of Russia’s railway-based missiles might have a negative effect on strategic stability and the complexes must be liable to the operation of START-3.

Russia withdrew railway-based inter-continental ballistic missiles from operation in 2005. At the moment research and development work is in progress on their successor, Barguzin, which, according to Strategic Missile Force expectations, will surpass by far the parameters of its predecessor and remain in active service at least till 2040.

A former Strategic Missile Force commander, Viktor Yesin, has told TASS that Barguzin is Russia’s response to the United States’ deployment of the anti-ballistic missile defense. The mobile missiles’ high mobility and stealthiness make a missile defense easily pregnable, he said.

 

[vostok]

Ukrainian army - one of the worst armies in the world. Corruption is 100%. Not surprisingly, militia's that protect their land and their homes were able to fighr back the crowd, most of whom - Nazi battalions.
Of course, most of the New Russia is still occupied by the troops of the junta, but we believe and know that the day of liberation will come.
You're right, Maidan was a well-planned spion operation. Literally at the end of last year, hundreds of businessmen arrived from Russia to Ukraine. Ukraine allowed to participate in the program of modernization of the Russian Army. Tens billions of dollars in solid orders for our plants! In fact, it meant re-industralization of Ukraine. It was a chance not turn into a banana republic, raw material appendage of the West and the source of slaves for the West. However, the West has organized Maidan and Ukraine plunged into chaos. Ukraine will never get out of this chaos.
But I am slightly concerned about the fate of Ukraine. I am concerned about the fate of the New Russia. Unlike Ukraine, we still have a chance for freedom, prosperity and a better future.

 

[Hindustani78]

Ukrainian army - one of the worst armies in the world. Corruption is 100%. Not surprisingly, militia's that protect their land and their homes were able to fighr back the crowd, most of whom - Nazi battalions.

I think Ukrainian military personal are loyal to their country and that's why they are able to stop the separatist backed by Russian Soldiers. Why you are using term for them Nazi Battalions ? What type of logic you use i cant understand , you say even this that all are same people and then even term them Nazis.

Of course, most of the New Russia is still occupied by the troops of the junta, but we believe and know that the day of liberation will come.

How come they have occupied when they are defending their country sovereignty and integrity ?

You're right, Maidan was a well-planned spion operation. Literally at the end of last year, hundreds of businessmen arrived from Russia to Ukraine. Ukraine allowed to participate in the program of modernization of the Russian Army. Tens billions of dollars in solid orders for our plants! In fact, it meant re-industralization of Ukraine. It was a chance not turn into a banana republic, raw material appendage of the West and the source of slaves for the West. However, the West has organized Maidan and Ukraine plunged into chaos. Ukraine will never get out of this chaos.
But I am slightly concerned about the fate of Ukraine. I am concerned about the fate of the New Russia. Unlike Ukraine, we still have a chance for freedom, prosperity and a better future.

Maidan protests was organized by people of Ukraine in favor of joining EU and moving away from Russia. Can you tell me what is this New Russia ? Are you using this term for the regions which are under the control of the Separatists backed by Russian Federation soldiers ?

TASS: Russia - Putin submits for ratification Russian-Abkhazian Agreement on Strategic Partnership

Putin submits for ratification Russian-Abkhazian Agreement on Strategic Partnership
Russia
December 23, 16:05

MOSCOW, December 23. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has submitted to the State Duma for ratification the Russian-Abkhazian Agreement on Alliance and Strategic Partnership, the Kremlin official website reported on Tuesday.

The document lays the foundation for interstate relations between Russia and Abkhazia and the basic rights and freedoms of man and citizen are its subject.

Meanwhile, the agreement contains rules that differ from that stipulated by Russian legislation. In particular, Article 13 specifies Russia’s additional measures to simplify the procedure for getting Russian citizenship by Abkhazian citizens.

“The agreement fully meets Russia’s interests, its ratification will establish solid economic, political and social relations between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Abkhazia,” says the Kremlin website.

The Abkhazian parliament ratified the document on December 22.

 

[vostok]

I think Ukrainian military personal are loyal to their country and that's why they are able to stop the separatist backed by Russian Soldiers. Why you are using term for them Nazi Battalions ? What type of logic you use i cant understand , you say even this that all are same people and then even term them Nazis.



How come they have occupied when they are defending their country sovereignty and integrity ?




Maidan protests was organized by people of Ukraine in favor of joining EU and moving away from Russia. Can you tell me what is this New Russia ? Are you using this term for the regions which are under the control of the Separatists backed by Russian Federation soldiers ?

Most of honest officers switched side to the militia or retired from the army. For example, a few hundred soldiers of Ukrainian space center resigned when the junta ordered them to kill innocent people in the east of the former Ukraine.
Of course, it is well known that about thousand of foreign military experts working for the junta. SBU is subordinate to the United States by 100%. Foreigners were able to eventually create a semblance of the army. However, until now the junta sent into battle thousands of mercanaries from Nazi battalions. These Nazis are good where they can rob, rape and kill the defenseless. However, against the Cossacks and militiamen they are just bunch of cowards.
"Russian never surrender" as they said. This means that the entire territory of New Russia will be liberated from the Nazi occupiers. We, the locals, do not doubt it.

 

[gau8av]

@vostok but surely there was some support from the Russian military after the militia almost took Mariupol in the counter offensive after retreating from Kramotorsk and Slaviansk earlier (for which Igor Strelkov had made some statements expressing deep grief and regret at the time) and during which the Minsk protocols were suddenly signed.

 

[Hindustani78]

Most of honest officers switched side to the militia or retired from the army. For example, a few hundred soldiers of Ukrainian space center resigned when the junta ordered them to kill innocent people in the east of the former Ukraine.
Of course, it is well known that about thousand of foreign military experts working for the junta. SBU is subordinate to the United States by 100%. Foreigners were able to eventually create a semblance of the army. However, until now the junta sent into battle thousands of mercanaries from Nazi battalions. These Nazis are good where they can rob, rape and kill the defenseless. However, against the Cossacks and militiamen they are just bunch of cowards.
"Russian never surrender" as they said. This means that the entire territory of New Russia will be liberated from the Nazi occupiers. We, the locals, do not doubt it.

Switching is done that time only when huge sums of money and incentives are given , so are you saying that Russian Federation military planners have adopted such type of tactics and used even Ethnic card ? It seems you are using the term nazi battalions for all those who are Ethnic Ukrainians soldiers and people which i think is completely incorrect. Was this is the reason that Russian Federation forwarded UN resolution combating glorification of Nazism.

I do reject racism of all kind but the timing of that resolution forwarded by Russian Federation seems to be linked to the Ukraine Crisis.

 

[Providence]

Cannot stop our stealth bombers can they ?

Having said that, a mutually lose lose game like a nuclear war is nigh improbable.

 

[Hindustani78]

@vostok but surely there was some support from the Russian military after the militia almost took Mariupol in the counter offensive after retreating from Kramotorsk and Slaviansk earlier (for which Igor Strelkov had made some statements expressing deep grief and regret at the time) and during which the Minsk protocols were suddenly signed.

Things are not so good in Mariupol even now. Separatists are masses equipment and troops near donetsk and mariupol and are constantly being monitored by unmanned aerial vehicles which belongs to Seperatists backed by Russian Federation and even today there was bombing in Mariupol.

22.12.2014
Ukrainian forces repel attack by saboteurs near Mariupol : UNIAN news
It is also noted that two unmanned aerial vehicles were spotted on Monday morning near Mariupol.
"Yesterday, in the north-east of Mariupol, a patrol of the Azov volunteer battalion came across sabotage and reconnaissance groups of terrorists. The [militants] opened fire, but faced good resistance from the Azov soldiers, and retreated. No casualties on the Ukrainian side were reported,"the city's defense headquarters said.

Dec. 24, 2014
Saboteurs blow up railway bridge in Mariupol - watch on - uatoday.tv
Saboteurs have blown up a railway bridge over the Kalchyk river near the south-eastern Ukrainian city of Mariupol. As a result, one of the concrete supports for the bridge collapsed.

There were no reports of injuries, although the railway connection with Mariupol has been disrupted. Local officials say residents could have helped by informing authorites of threats to the bridge.

A bridge, which was destroyed during the early hours on Tuesday by an unknown group, is pictured on a railway across the river Karchyk at the southern coastal town of Mariupol, December 23, 2014.