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Russia today carried out a crucial demonstration flight of the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) to be developed jointly with India as New Delhi seeks to extend its strategic reach.

The demonstration flight was watched by Secretary Defence Production R K Singh, who is on a four-day Russia visit as part of an Indian delegation led by Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar to review the progress in bilateral defence projects.

According to the inter-governmental agreement signed in October 2007, India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and Russia's Sukhoi Corporation will jointly develop the futuristic platform under the FGFA project, to be initially based on Sukhoi's Perspective Aviation Complex of Frontline Aviation (PAK-FA).

The FGFA project will be the biggest ever in the bilateral Indo-Russian defence cooperation, Sukhoi said in a release. At the Zhukovsky airfield of the M. M. Gromov Flight Research Institute near here the prototype of the Russian PAK-FA fifth generation fighter was presented to Singh by the CEO of Sukhoi and MiG Corporations Mikhail Pogosyan.

Last month, Air Chief, Air Chief Marshal P V Naik had also watched a demonstration flight of one of the two prototypes of the fighter, which have already made over 70 test flights.

Deccan Herald - Russia carries out demonstration flight of FGFA


Question :- PAK-FA or FGFA demo?
 
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The second prototype was the FGFA prototype ? Can someone please clarify ...and if so where are the pics ...?
 
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PAKFA is of course an FGFA(Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft)
May be it was a mistake.
 
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Its a journal error. FGFA is too early to have a prototype.

The single seater PAK-FA is what that has been shown to Indian delegation.
 
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Guys,I think the reporter intentionaly mentioned it FGFA.Reason-PAK FA itself is a FGFA.It is just my assumption.I may be wrong though.
REGARDS........
 
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Right! FGFA is the acronym for Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft which is the Sukhoi T-50 PAK_FA

Elementary, Dr Watson! :azn:

Here are some pics:

Sukhoi-T-50-PAK-FA-First-Flight-1S.jpg

First prototype of the PAK-FA during an early test flight, January 2010. Intended to replace the Flanker series, the PAK-FA improves upon the superlative aerodynamic and kinematic performance of the Flanker, but adds competitive Very Low Observable capability, until recently unique to United States designs (Sukhoi image).

Sukhoi-T-50-PAK-FA-KnAAPO-2S.jpg

The first high quality in flight image of the prototype to be released by Sukhoi/KnAAPO.

800px-Sukhoi_T-50.jpg

Sukhoi T-50 during a test flight.
Wikipedia


The T-50 performed its first flight 29 January 2010. Its second flight was on 6 February and its third on 12 February 2010. As of 31 August 2010, it had made 17 flights and by mid-November, 40 in total. The second prototype was to start its flight test by the end of 2010, but this was delayed until March 2011.

The Indian Air Force will acquire 50 single-seater fighters of the Russian version before the two seat FGFA is developed. 200 of these twin seat versions will be manufactured by HAL, bringing the total to 250 PAK FAs for the IAF.

Cheers!
 
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I think the under carriage needs to be perfected.Though I think it will be addressed in later modules by implimenting the internal weapons bay.Then it will be a real stealth platform in the league of F22 Raptor and shut the mouths of the criticizers.
By the way,the intakes are not that unstealthy like the chinese claim.They are diamond shaped and covers a large portion of the blades.Rest will probably be addresed byradar blocking composite mess just like the JSF.Then atleast frontally FGFA will be on par if not better than the Raptor.
REGARDS....
 
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it has to be a two sitter variant if it is called as FGFA..
here is news from DNA

PAK-FA to be built jointly by India, Russia - India - DNA

After Air Chief, PV Naik, saw the fifth generation fighter aircraft flight in Russia last month, on Tuesday secretary of defence production, RK Singh, was given a flight demonstration of the PAK-FA (Prospective Airborne Complex of Frontline Aviation).

The PAK-FA is the Russian fifth generation fighter, which has had two prototypes flown, after it made its debut last year, while the Indian version of the FGFA (fifth generation fighter aircraft) is yet to take-off. India and Russia signed a preliminary agreement last December, here (signed by India’s Hindustan Aeronautics Limited-HAL and Russia’s Rosoboronexport), for the development of the draft engineering design of the prospective multi-role fighter-FGFA.

The Indian delegation headed by Singh is at Russia’s Gromov Flight Research Institute’s airfield, to get a first-hand feel of the flying qualities of the aircraft, which were demonstrated to them.

President of United Aircraft Company (UAC), CEO of Sukhoi Company and MiG Russian Aircraft Corporation, Mikhail Pogosyan, represented the Russian side. Indian HAL and Russia’s Sukhoi Design Bureau are making the Indian FGFA, which is expected to fly in 2017.

The FGFA is the largest programme between India and Russia in the area of military-technical cooperation, which was initially agreed upon on October 18, 2007 between both countries to cooperate on development and manufacture.

The Indian FGFA will be designed and developed on the basis of the Russian PAK-FA, though the IAF has demanded its aircraft to be a twin-seater, unlike the Russian PAK-FA, which is a single-seater, therefore the price of the Indian aircraft will be more than its Russian counterpart. The PAK-FA’s two prototypes have completed 70 flights so far.
 
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Why the engines gonnabe problem?Russians are master of developing and manufacturing of high power turbo fan engine!!
 
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but its just a prototype. prototypes are very much different then the final product so you cant say engines would be a problem as of now! !!!!

Exactly, the final version will be very different from what we see now on these early prototypes. The Air intakes will remain the same, but anything behind it will be changed, new engine coverings (probably more shaped), the final engine with radar blockers to hide the compressor blades, TVN.
 
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Exactly, the final version will be very different from what we see now on these early prototypes. The Air intakes will remain the same, but anything behind it will be changed, new engine coverings (probably more shaped), the final engine with radar blockers to hide the compressor blades, TVN.

i have posted the below article in one of the thread.re-posting it here.i hope it may be helpful regarding engine.

In Russian Parliament sponsored 'Russia Today' journal (May, 2011) a new interview with Victor Chepkin was published. He first time reported about the difference between 'izdelie-117S' and 'izdelie-117' engines for new fighters. Then he didnt give interviews almost 3 years.

Chepkin Victor M. - is the doctor of technical sciences, professor, General Designer, the first deputy general director of NPO Saturn, on research and development projects, advisor to the Director of Lulka design buraue.

After graduating the Moscow Aviation Institute in 1957, he was sent to the Perm Motors design Bureau , where he worked as a design engineer and latter - the chief designer. He was the chief designer of the outstanding improvement on their engine, "D-30F6" for the world's fastest fighter-interceptor MiG-31 ". In 1980 Viktor Mikhailovich worked as Deputy Minister of Aviation Industry of the USSR.

Under his leadership, design , finishing work and conducted official testing of turbojet engine "AL-31F was successfully completed . Victor M. spearheaded the creation of a turbojet engine of the fifth generation, AL 41F and modernization of the AL-31F.

Q - Since United Engine Corporation been formed , 5 th generation Fighter T-50 " climbed into the sky and is undergoing flight tests , the first Superjet already been transferred to commercial airlines ... What in your opinion the most important changes occurred in the Russian aviation industry during this period (3 years) that we acquired, and what can be lost?

A - The main thing in my opinion, is that joint efforts succeeded in stopping the fall of the industry. This required the efforts of many, first and foremost, I would note Mikhail Pogosyan and Eugene Marchukov - the General Designer of the engine for the T-50.

For military aircraft, we have created two engines - one for the aircraft, like Su-35 ", the second - for the Russian aircraft 5 th generation of T-50". The first - is "117C" - is mainly intended for export. He is more simple in terms of aerodynamics, and most importantly - targeted for aircraft with conventional arms, suspended on pylons outside the fuselage, with no strong constraints on dimensions. Such schemes fro example are used on 4-th generation aircrafts , exported to India and Malaysia.

The second engine - is "117" - though only differ by one letter in the title, much more advanced engine - this is a real engine of the 5-th generation. From the rivals can sometimes be heard the 5-th generation engine should be with such a blade, such and such materials, high-speed rotors, and you do not have this ... None of this is all just ways of achieving the goal. A single goal - increasing specific thrust, ie the ratio of thrust to its weight. For example, the first jet engine Arkhip Mikhailovich Lulka weighed 1350 kg and had the same thrust, that is, its specific thrust is equal to 1. The 4 th generation engine , "AL-31F, has already managed to achieve specific thrust of 8.7, and on a 5 th generation, the figure is 10.

The new engine delivers a supersonic speed without afterburner mode. What it gives? If before the fighter was flying to the target with the speed of 700 km / h, now - it is twice as fast.

Our "117" today is already flying on two T-50s. For the company it is quite a major achievement, a large move forward. Although it never was easy. We also have new ideas, we can boast some good groundwork. What is needed in the field of military aviation - the beginning of this mass production? To protect such a large country like ours, from a serious attack the number as 500-1000 aircrafts is needed . For this needed orders, money, production infrastructure.

Q - What are the new challenges encountered when creating the plane 5 th generation?

A - There are thousand problems to solve . Say, for reducing the radar visibility "T-50 has a scheme with an internal arrangement of weapons, so is becoming increasingly important problem of reducing its size. And that means new weaponry has to be developed and put into service , but since it has low volume, it must be highly accurate. It is therefore necessarily need a fully functional GLONASS. The American GPS, for obvious reasons is not suitable, since in times of crisis they will disable it, like during the Ossetian-Georgian war, would impose an artificial shift in the coordinates of 300 km. Also is needed to be known exactly, how do you shoot, so should be a modern mapping system. The missile itself should be stealthy . Such weapons are now manufactured, and all this affects the design of the engine. The work is proceeding according to plans ... In general, in my opinion, the plane turns out good, no worse than the American "F-22".

Q - By the way, if we compare the T-50 "with the" F-22 ", Western sources say that the T-50" is much behind in infrared engine visibility in the rear hemisphere.

A - We're working very intensely, to reduce the infrared and radar visibility, and were twice as better performance in comparison with the "F-22" (at least for those data that are published and which I have).

Q - In the difficult years for the Russian aircraft industry, aircraft building companies that produced military aircraft survived by exports, especially in China and India. Today, the Chinese have copied our Su-27 "and are ready to sell it on world markets at dumping prices. Not whether as a result we lose our traditional markets of combat aircraft?

A - We dont, because such an aircraft as we have, the Chinese have no and will have no in visible prospective. They say that they have made a 5-th generation plane, but one can say anything ... Their best engine was copied from our "AL-31F. And we produce 5-th generation engines , and they are in all of their parameters of thrust, specific fuel consumption correspond to the 5-th generation. I opened the secret and say that we actually already have two 5-th generation engines. The second, which is now conventionally called the "Type 30", has already been tested in flight on the fighter T-50 ". In the future it probably will give the name of "AL-...." According to its parameters it a 15-25 percent better than "117 th".

Q - You can hear that the 5 th generation engine of a plane is not as important as its electronic filling ...

A - If you compare the share of the motor and electronics to provide the functionality of combat fighter, then I, as you know, though being a minder and a patriot of the industry, yet I must admit that electronics "weighs" is much higher. Without a doubt. That's why a little better, or slightly worse engine - has no special meaning. But, if the engine parameters are much better, as we have done on the "117" (25 percent), the performance characteristics can be seriously improved, even due to increasing the allowed weight of the aircraft.

So as per the article there are 3 main engines
117s for SU-35
117 for PAK-FA (30 % better than AL-31F)
Type 30 for PAK-FA or for new fighter(20 to 25% better than 117)
 
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