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Google two names - Sundar Pichai and Satya Nadela.
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No need to google. Sundar Pichai etc is not emblematic of the Bhakt ideology. Whatever remarkable names from India did spring up came from Bengal like Amartya Sen and Tagore or from the South like Shakuntala devi, more in line with Nehruvian India than BJP's India. BJP's India is lined with Gujju sleazebags like Amit Shah or cow belt rapists like Yogi. Let them gloat. This is what the Nazis did to before their downfall.
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Check what Arya Samaj did.
Check the RSS history in Lahore.
I doubt this.
Say what you want, but they do have something. It is not possible to continue in this day and age otherwise.
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@Naofumi , you are young here and have promise so I'll take a little time to say this:
I would prefer it if you do not tag me if you are going to tag certain types alongside. I refer to "Afrz" specifically...I don't want to see my name alongside there (having put him on ignore for other reasons more broadly) as it can be misconstrued by some observers all opinions of the batch-tag are equally interested, equally vested and have equal worth of opinion on whatever topic. He is irredeemable to me, a complete lost cause...and I will let his fate simply be decided by better and higher authority both here on earth and "up there" too.
Hope you understand. Please extend if you will this same courtesy for me, when concerning "shantanu" and "cliftonite" as well for similar reasons.
Now on to this topic:
I grow disinterested and disillusioned with these kind of topics more broadly.
Let me give you a summary, since it has already been ably represented in various threads already.
The analogy anywhere in world is identity scapegoating ease and promotion and sustenance....however it presents itself in a particular setup. Why this happens should be obvious to anyone by now, its as old as human existence itself.
Since I am located in North America, take the KKK for example. At one point when identity politics in the US were at its peak in the early 20th century, some 30 - 40% of white males it is estimated were members of it or where affiliates of it.
It did not prevent the US from sorting out that debate with fits and spurts and strength of system...and becoming a superpower too by pluralistic temperance and ultimate allegiance in enough strength to enlightened federal-democratic ideals.
Heck I have seen even the same lingo used by some members here referring to "house - negroes" and "uncle toms" when referring to our part of world (on other face of planet completely) because they are of the subconscious impression there is simply no resolution at all and just want to see the whole thing burn so that maybe their lot can rise somehow rise in the ashes.
I'm not saying the RSS is "exactly" the KKK or even close....but there are similarities (and they similarly portend to the greater political parties that are allied with them at various points).
Simply people here can choose the "dial" setting for it as they see fit, either somewhere in 10% region of loose correlation or 90% extreme correlation...or whatever in between that sits best with them....whatever their perspective on it is..and if they desire to. I don't even care to do that tbh...I come from different take to this matter altogether that needs people to first ascend above this pettiness....one of micro-analysing it by the same ole same ole crap throwing and sticking both ways is futile hair-splitting point-scoring "two evils make a good" muck in the end. Its not useful in any sense of the meaning....it only demeans them all, they dont see it, they never will.
But its also very easy for me to say, you see I am not in the areas affected or influenced by extreme raw mob-culture. I live in an ivory tower a world away....far removed from it all. If others here don't see or admit their own ivory towers they are in, thats on them.
But I recognise the existence of all these mobs and the people that populate them....good, bad and in between....they are my people in the end and we will have to deal with it ourselves...as a people. It's really that simple.
That is why this further sears me, these topics, that we are airing this out in a forum of other people that wish us much harm, have huge chip on shoulder about us, and are firmly rooted in their own hypocrisy too....one that tore a whole wing from them...and very angrily for them "at our hands".
It is futile mess, tag all the other guys you want if you hold what they say of any worth or whatever the intention you have is. But leave me out henceforth, and only tag me when you want something very specific answered for these kind of things. I am not going to give any broad answer like this anymore. It pains me, I'm sick of it.
I'd rather engage only with people that mean well and do well and know well....on my own terms. For the riff-raff scum I will be even more selective....they deserve only hell from me and I will choose the time and place to deliver it appropriately here....and simply ignore the bulk of their predictable pitiful antics. Thank you.
I would prefer it if you do not tag me if you are going to tag certain types alongside. I refer to "Afrz" specifically...I don't want to see my name alongside there (having put him on ignore for other reasons more broadly) as it can be misconstrued by some observers all opinions of the batch-tag are equally interested, equally vested and have equal worth of opinion on whatever topic. He is irredeemable to me, a complete lost cause...and I will let his fate simply be decided by better and higher authority both here on earth and "up there" too.
Hope you understand. Please extend if you will this same courtesy for me, when concerning "shantanu" and "cliftonite" as well for similar reasons.
Now on to this topic:
I grow disinterested and disillusioned with these kind of topics more broadly.
Let me give you a summary, since it has already been ably represented in various threads already.
The analogy anywhere in world is identity scapegoating ease and promotion and sustenance....however it presents itself in a particular setup. Why this happens should be obvious to anyone by now, its as old as human existence itself.
Since I am located in North America, take the KKK for example. At one point when identity politics in the US were at its peak in the early 20th century, some 30 - 40% of white males it is estimated were members of it or where affiliates of it.
It did not prevent the US from sorting out that debate with fits and spurts and strength of system...and becoming a superpower too by pluralistic temperance and ultimate allegiance in enough strength to enlightened federal-democratic ideals.
Heck I have seen even the same lingo used by some members here referring to "house - negroes" and "uncle toms" when referring to our part of world (on other face of planet completely) because they are of the subconscious impression there is simply no resolution at all and just want to see the whole thing burn so that maybe their lot can rise somehow rise in the ashes.
I'm not saying the RSS is "exactly" the KKK or even close....but there are similarities (and they similarly portend to the greater political parties that are allied with them at various points).
Simply people here can choose the "dial" setting for it as they see fit, either somewhere in 10% region of loose correlation or 90% extreme correlation...or whatever in between that sits best with them....whatever their perspective on it is..and if they desire to. I don't even care to do that tbh...I come from different take to this matter altogether that needs people to first ascend above this pettiness....one of micro-analysing it by the same ole same ole crap throwing and sticking both ways is futile hair-splitting point-scoring "two evils make a good" muck in the end. Its not useful in any sense of the meaning....it only demeans them all, they dont see it, they never will.
But its also very easy for me to say, you see I am not in the areas affected or influenced by extreme raw mob-culture. I live in an ivory tower a world away....far removed from it all. If others here don't see or admit their own ivory towers they are in, thats on them.
But I recognise the existence of all these mobs and the people that populate them....good, bad and in between....they are my people in the end and we will have to deal with it ourselves...as a people. It's really that simple.
That is why this further sears me, these topics, that we are airing this out in a forum of other people that wish us much harm, have huge chip on shoulder about us, and are firmly rooted in their own hypocrisy too....one that tore a whole wing from them...and very angrily for them "at our hands".
It is futile mess, tag all the other guys you want if you hold what they say of any worth or whatever the intention you have is. But leave me out henceforth, and only tag me when you want something very specific answered for these kind of things. I am not going to give any broad answer like this anymore. It pains me, I'm sick of it.
I'd rather engage only with people that mean well and do well and know well....on my own terms. For the riff-raff scum I will be even more selective....they deserve only hell from me and I will choose the time and place to deliver it appropriately here....and simply ignore the bulk of their predictable pitiful antics. Thank you.
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